THE LEAGUE: Season 1

All I know is there was a cut-off date and the first matches started last weekend. I believe they're discussing having anyone that wants to sign up as a free agent is going to be out there to be drafted. That's a wait and see and up to them really.

Artic really did go around and post to the active PvP community and let them know it was going on and all were welcome to sign up. I have no qualms with anyone of whatever level of experience participate, the more the better and I can guarantee you the majority of this league feel the same way.

Both of your posts were read and once again, there was a cut off point. Now there has been talk of extending it and I'm sorry you got to the party late and the beer and chicks are spoken for so to speak.

Have you ever considered maybe it's your attitude and your approach that is just off putting? I'm certain you're not here to make friends, but you're sure as hell not making any ground the way you're going at it. Just a suggestion.

Maybe you should heed your own advice and read what was posted yourself. Let me again say I have no qualms with any other teams of any experience joining at this juncture. So, your Ex may have been on to something, wasn't so much shutting you up as it was reading, digesting and taking what others say before your mouth fires off into another tirade.

You seem very hung up on it being some sort of conspiracy, to which I am trying to convey to you the opposite. A changing of rules to which others had to adhere to up and to this point would throw a lot of things out of whack. Again, I am not fully against this but it's just the way things are done. These are not my rules, but they are rules others adhered to none the less.

It's a short season, and there are 2 very strong competitive teams there presently. So, it's not to say there isn't any 'competition' for those of us who are new to the experience, on the contrary. They are not only there to compete with us, but several have offered their personal time to improve those not so 'schooled' in the ways of PvP.

Now, that's not to say your request and idea is fully out of the picture. Again though I submit to you that your approach and attitude isn't doing you any justice. I personally welcome any new teams/players, all the more to learn from. But seriously man, Conjecture; you're doing it wrong!

Please forgive me for not responding to the majority of your post. It was largely just you repeating yourself and being unnecessarily inflammatory. I'm genuinely sorry if anything I wrote in my last post offended you and caused you to respond in the way you did.

I'm getting annoyed, perhaps it's starting to show.

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Originally Posted by Braije A changing of rules to which others had to adhere to up and to this point would throw a lot of things out of whack. Again, I am not fully against this but it's just the way things are done. These are not my rules, but they are rules others adhered to none the less.

What are these "lot of things" you reference?
How exactly would they be "thrown out of whack"?

Because right now all i'm hearing is "following rules for the sake of rules".

A reasonable person knows when to break rules as well as follow them.

And just for the record, you're barking up the wrong tree. I am only going by the rules and requirements that were laid before myself and many others. You're now on the CAPE site and I encourage you to take it up there. If it doesn't work out I hope that we get more on whatever server in whatever league down the road, as I said the more ppl the more experience and fun to be had.

I don't understand how one brand new self-contained team being added to the league would mean any other teams have to be "restructured". I can't imagine a scenario where that would be required at all.

I don't think I've really got the energy to keep going back and fourth like this. I'll pester the CAPE guys and see what they say.

Just trying to help here, as far as why it would be an issue. By a certain date teams of 8 had to be submitted, after such time a team of 4 could form and select players from a draft that was held. That's really the stance that is being taken, because everyone else had to do so. I thought the original post that MAH made here advertised that, it has been some time so I might be mistaken.

It's not to say that you as individuals could not register at the site and join as free agents and you're more than welcome to come indulge in the PvP experience that is currently going on and I encourage and welcome you to. As you previously posted, sadly it's a dwindling aspect of the game and one I would personally hate to see deteriorate anymore or disappear altogether from CoH. It may not be ideal, but that allowance was made to get those not drafted or those late coming involved.

Here is to hoping you guys sign up and get involved, the more experience out there we have the better as you also stated previously. If not then I understand and it's a short season so maybe we'll have the chance to enjoy such an untapped resource in the game down the road.

Am I right in thinking wanting to play with each other is going to be considered "selfish"?

Seems to me this thread IS pvp.

Is there any reason other PvP events can't occur while the official League matches are going on? I know we're all trying to get some practice in, so if there's an issue with a new team joining at this point, why doesn't that team hook up with others for 'practice' fights?
We'd all get to PvP; us newer folks can continue to benefit from the experience of others; and I think it provides a reasonable solution to the current issue--Xanatos' team gets to fight matches with the others without affecting the League, which should (I think) make MAH and Cherry happy.

Some more kickball maybe? Or a night or two a week when all comers can meet in PD (or where ever) and start laying smack downs?

Sort of like a major league sports team playing an exhibition game.

I can see where they're coming from, a lot of people had no idea this league existed and I'm certain there's really no other organized PvP going on elsewhere. Artic did post in other forums about the league, but the threads were quickly deleted for cross posting. Even the whole team of 8 signups was only posted on the CAPE forums and when it was finally posted on these forums, only teams of 4 were allowed to signup.

Bringing in another team will never be a bad thing. Nobody wants more people to join the free agent list, let alone a whole nother team. I know my team doesn't want to pickup more people, we have to sit out a couple people each match as it is.

I commend the efforts of the league organizers, I really do. However, always abiding by the rules isn't good if it's just for the sole purpose of following the rules. Remember the saying Budweiser used in his league regarding the rules (which he stole from me)? "If you don't like the rules, quit." Everyone was against a lot of his rules and the fact that only a select few that he picked were coming up with the rules.

If you want to be different from Bud's league, I say let them join! I mean rules were already broken on the first night, as minor as they may be, with lineup submissions and time in between matches. Why not break some more to let people who truly want to PvP, PvP.

People really seem to be missing the whole point of the CAPE PvP League. This PvP League was intended for Champion server PvPers. Not for City of Heroes PvPers as a whole. It was never intended to be advertised outside of the Champion server forum and the CAPE forums. Exit asked about advertising the PvP league on other servers and in the PvP forums, but was specifically told not to and that this PvP league was for Champion server players. Artic advertised it all over anyway.

How many of the 8 people that want to join ever played on Champion outside of a PvP league?