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Originally Posted by YippeeGo
If it had a 10 seconds proc rule, it'd make the -damage resistance practically useless.
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Originally Posted by TheNet
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(in the form of a question) The last thing that was said before shield charge was "fixt"?
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Originally Posted by TheNet
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Don't you dare stop it from going off with every tick. I have been working on toons that are in their 20s anticipating the fun I will have with Interface.|
Originally Posted by TheNet
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Don't. you. dare.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
My guess is that they believe the interface stacking limit acts to moderate this properly.
I'm not sure that's correct. Actually, I'm not sure the stacking limit really moderates this as it should in high-rate attacks, and I'm not sure the stacking limit is what its supposed to be for the damage part of reactive regardless. I haven't had a chance to test this carefully, and its tricky to test, but I'm not convinced the DoT follows the same limit as the debuff. |
I'm betting the answer is somewhere in here with respect to what's happening in rains; though it may be that it's hitting the limit, then one is ending and instantly another is starting.
Either way, it's wacky - but I'm not convinced the 10s rule is the answer.
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It's not. Rains maybe need a look at, but auras DO NOT.
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Originally Posted by MayorOfAngrytown
but I'm not convinced the 10s rule is the answer.
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Originally Posted by TheNet
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Yeah, boy the first day they patched it so that rains capped the reactive dot I started working on a new controller to take advantage of the hilarity.
They'll probably wait 2 months for me to finish him and then fix it so pseudopets don't proc reactive. Now that I've sobered myself, maybe I'll wait 2 months before starting to outfit him with the goods.
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I highly doubt they'll make it not work on pseudopets... that would remove Interface from a large swath of powers, something they clearly do NOT want to happen (they've already made sure it was working correctly with pets).|
Originally Posted by Elfis_Presley
Yeah, boy the first day they patched it so that rains capped the reactive dot I started working on a new controller to take advantage of the hilarity.
They'll probably wait 2 months for me to finish him and then fix it so pseudopets don't proc reactive. Now that I've sobered myself, maybe I'll wait 2 months before starting to outfit him with the goods. |
Moving it in line with other procs seems much more likely.
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Great, now the devs know.
Good job breaking it, Heroes.
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I know. Rains MAYBE, but not auras people. Auras are not broken, but rains might be.
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Originally Posted by Caligdoiel
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I know! It's like people weren't posting left and right about the crazy things they were doing with Reactive in Cal Trops, of all things. And the devs never play their own game, at all, that'd just be silly. |
Originally Posted by Caligdoiel
Great, now the devs know.
Good job breaking it, Heroes. |
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And the devs never play their own game, at all, that'd just be silly.
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I don't care as much that it's OP vs mobs, but I do care that it gives certain powersets/powers a significant advantage over others. Anything that disturbs the balance between powersets is bad. Interface in rains really should be fixed.
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The problem you have here is that unfortunately Rains are technically auras. So anything that fixes Rains may have to also affect Auras.|
Originally Posted by JayboH
I know. Rains MAYBE, but not auras people. Auras are not broken, but rains might be.
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Hopefully though the fix won't be "just make them work like procs, with a 10 second inhibitor" but that the inhibitor will be something like a 2-5 second one, which would tame the sillyness in Rains and Trops but not render it entirely useless.
No, not really, they can make changes to particular powers if need be. Are auras treated as pets just like rains are?
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
The problem you have here is that unfortunately Rains are technically auras. So anything that fixes Rains may have to also affect Auras.
Hopefully though the fix won't be "just make them work like procs, with a 10 second inhibitor" but that the inhibitor will be something like a 2-5 second one, which would tame the sillyness in Rains and Trops but not render it entirely useless. |
Rains are pseudopets.
Auras are auras.
Pseudopets can have aura-type effects, I think, but the issue here is separate.
Auras worked just fine before the specific fix that changed rains, caltrops, burn patches, etc. (all pseudopets) There were some changes for actual pets as well, but I didn't notice anything wacky there afterwards (beforehand it wasn't quite working right).
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Originally Posted by JayboH
I know. Rains MAYBE, but not auras people. Auras are not broken, but rains might be.
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
The problem you have here is that unfortunately Rains are technically auras.
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Examples?
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Depends on the aura. Some auras tick quite fast.
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A dmg aura generally ticks every 2 seconds. Rain power are more like 70 ticks in 15 seconds...i think. So aura are pretty epic now but i sure as hell dont think it's broken. Before reactive only good thing about dmg aura's was that they taunted, and not even that for most. Because their dmg compared to end cost is generally awful.
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Originally Posted by TheNet
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The way reactive is right now is FUN. It's something to really look forward to getting.
This game is about fun....right?
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Most of them actually do both. They have an aura that delivers an attack as an auto power every fraction of a second until the pet despawns. That how the Rain of Fire/Ice powers work, for example.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Depends on the pseudopet. Some pseudopets operate by having an autopower aura, other operate by making many, many, many separate attacks.
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Originally Posted by TommyTrD
Seriously hope by saying "looking into" you mean "trying to bring up the other interface powers".
The way reactive is right now is FUN. It's something to really look forward to getting. This game is about fun....right? |
It overwhelms everything else about my toon, which was carefully and meticulously crafted.
My sleet now makes old PSW look like consume from a damage standpoint...
I can walk through a x8 mission using one power and finish faster than I could before using my entire build (multi billion ill/cold that is undoubtedly faster than the vast majority of builds out there to begin with). That's fun for about 2 mins to me and then gets incredibly boring.
No doubt it is terrific for actual attacks, it is a great and strong proc. But in fast ticking rains it is beyond ridiculous.
I'm not sure that's correct. Actually, I'm not sure the stacking limit really moderates this as it should in high-rate attacks, and I'm not sure the stacking limit is what its supposed to be for the damage part of reactive regardless. I haven't had a chance to test this carefully, and its tricky to test, but I'm not convinced the DoT follows the same limit as the debuff.