Lambda Sabatoge!

I originally wrote this up to share on my SG web page, so please forgive me if I miss any of the curse words in the edit. Mods, I really did try to get them all. I have ran Lambda over 30(number may be low) times since it went live, I have never had anything like this happen before last night.

Last night I was going to run one Lambda before bed so I could get the one Emp merit from it for that day. I get on a league and was asked to lead it. Well, not what I was looking for, but I could do it. I get the teams balanced, and sorted, then we enter. Once in we pause on the streets, and I ask if anyone is new. I get a few yeses, so I break it down. I ask them to kill everything in the street, courtyard, and guns all going clockwise, then I ask them to pause so I can explain the rest. Everyone agrees. Upfront I tell them that my team will go after acids, and the second team will go after grenades, again they all agree. I again say to pause after the security team so we can explain it further.

During this time I am chatting with another player on the team, because he wants to hold all of the grenades and lead that part of the run. I say that is find and tell the rest of the league. Things are going great. Street is cleared, courtyard is cleared, and we are working on the guns. We have two guns left when we see the do not enter till ready warning. Several of us at that point give the customary "WTF?" and others scream "We will be find just don't go through there doors!" Then we see the warning "Marauder and his forces are in route." I again said don't go in (I had missed the second warning) the other team leader tells me we are too late the person already had. So, we all rush inside, the guard is dead, and we rush to click on our areas. I get a tell from the other team leader "We are ******." I say no we are not.

The timer gives 5 min to get all the temps, when we all got into our maps we had 3 left.

Only 4 of my team make it into the Training Facility, the rest ended up going to the wrong door. I switch to team chat and tell my team to follow me, at the time I thought they were just lagging behind. They follow me to the first vat, and we take it out, I split to go to the second (clockwise as I do all things in this trial) and only a lone Cor follows me. The other two get lost, or are fighting. I again say "follow me" I resist the temptation to add a "!" to it. One player says he doesn't know where I am, so I tell him to use the map. At this point I am fighting with just the cor with big groups of lvl 54 enemies. He says "You are not on the MAP!" I go with "Then you are in the wrong place." I am now done with the conversation because I have to fight, the Cor is hanging on by a thread. I catch bits about him not being told where to go, and the cor, and the other team leader finely break and let him know that I did tell them multiple times at the beginning of the mission. At this point my cor dies and I am alone.

Well, I am a scrapper damn it! I keep fighting my way alone. I let the league know I am alone, hoping they can send some of my team to my area. I collect over half of the acids alone before the other team arrives. At this point I need to thank my friend Seeth, because he had a huge hand in my build, and IO selection. My character is truly awesome. I could write a whole story just about what happened in the few min I was collecting acids on that run.

The other team manged to collect their grenades pretty fast, because they had 12 or more people doing it. I had collected 5 and was working on a 6th when they entered my map to help me. So, between us we had added enough time to finish temp power collection. We managed to clear all the temps with time to spare. As pissed as I was at the time, looking back it was pretty epic, but I am also not done with the story.

We get outside, and only 8 acids are used. So we have to take out the vat to our right to get another one. We realize we are going to have to do this twice. While fighting the vat someone (I don't know who) drug Marauder over. So we are fighting to destroy the vat, and fighting him at the same time. This is not the way it should be done, and I was ready to kick someone from the League. I wanted to do it before, but no one knew who had screwed us the first time. I know who it wasn't because they were chatting with me and their bubbles were where I was. I decided that someone was greifing our run. Too many things had gone in a direction we had warned against for it to have all been an accident. I let the other lead and my Cor know what I thought, the both agreed. Someone was trying to sabotage us.

We got the last laugh though. We won. Through all of the crap, we still beat the trial. I am kinda glad that I didn't find and kick them. Us winning, and them failing at what they really wanted to do was a good moment. Later chatting with the other Team lead, and my Cor we realized it had to be more than one person. I know some bad characters, but I have never seen one who can take the security team alone, and if you are reading this and can, I would LOVE to see your build (I would still argue that it can't eb done in the time ti takes to clear the guns). I still have no clue who did it, but I did get two new global friends from the experience. The only down side is I got a common reward table at the end.

If you are reading this, and were part of this trial on Virtue last night. Good Job.

Sucks that you ran into a bad apple (or two), but good on ya for getting it done and not letting it get ya down.

Congrats on winning against the odds. I gotta wonder: Do these players really having nothing better to do with their time?

I had a similar situation yesterday: people entered the warehouses for acid/pacifier grenades before everyone was ready. Granted, I don't think they were trying to sabotage us but rather just being selfish and doing their own thing (which is bad in its own right, but at least it isn't negatively directed toward other people).

And that is why on Leagues I lead, we do the Turrets before the courtyard because:

1. I don't want anyone to open the courtyard door giving Marauder a chance to leave and the trial to fail.

2. People remember to do the turrets before going into the building. It's easy once you clear the courtyard to forget about turrets.

I may have been on that run with my SS Brute. We finished despite someone grenadeing Mauarader before we were finished aciding the portals. We kept yelling at them to stop wasting grenades. It all worked out in the end, though.

I was on Quantum Ted for that one, and yeah, that was a bit of a cluster, but salvaging those is almost more fun than running them completely flawlessly.

This is why I do pre-mades (60% of the time, at least) and designate one person to get all acids. Too often do we take out all 10 acid chambers and only 7-8 gates are closed.

Why is it that people REFUSE, ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to look at their power tray for the acids/grenades?

I actually think you probably were not a victim of sabotage but of people not paying attention/being new to the trial.

By doing the outside then the courtyard then jumping back to do the guns, I bet you confused some of the players who have run this a lot. Intuitively it makes more sense to work in rings from the outside then inwards: outside-> guns-> courtyard.

So once someone runs to the big door, I am guessing some of the newer players went with him and started on "team".

The next part does sound like someone being a jerk or just plan thinking their way is better then the leaders. There is never an excuse for going into the training center or munitions without instruction.

The last part about someone pulling Marauder, someone stated that if you aggro one of the spawns that are summoned from an open portal, he will also aggro on you. So if you were killing the chamber near an open door that *might* be why the AV came to you.



Gratz on finishing a difficult uphill trial. GJ!

I was on the run last night as Electra Voltara and had a total blast. I thought everyone was just playing fast and loose. I was on the grenade team and after collecting them all we tp'd out and snatched up the rest of the acids. Only real problem was the usual one or two people that don't use the acids on the doors. I figured the early Maruader aggro was from some MM pets or whatever. Definetly the most fun Lambda I've done yet.

A lot of what you guys are saying makes sense, and I have run well over 30 of this trial alone. Everyone I have ever done it with wants to do Street, Courtyard, Turrets. Most will not listen to reason.

That is the only time I have ever had Marauder agro on a team while they were taking out the acid chamber. Luck? Perhaps, I think it more likely someone really was trying to mess us up. I am not paranoid, well mostly not, but I was also not alone in this feeling.

I agree on the temps, I prefer to keep the spread out too. Again some people are insistent. It is simpler not to argue.

As one of the people stated, after it was over I realized that it was a lot of fun. More than any of the others I have ever been on.

Also, looking at the responses I realize every server has their own common way of how these trials are ran, and the only wrong way is the one that fails.