Multi-group content is not the way.

But, I'm not getting a metric of 12 runs for the above. On my brute, which I started this week, I have done 20 BAFs alone and am still sitting at 67% to finish Lore. I have been getting around 6- 8 % bar completion per BAF run. And Lambda has been even worse. Same number of runs and still at 38% done on Destiny.

I don't remember replying to you with that post.

So, Tank and Spank 4.0?

I don't care what you think you experienced, I am telling you you are mistaken. The adds were not ignored as you believe, either they were taunted into the group, or people were turning off the AVs to kill them. I choose to believe you just missed smart people on your team handling the trouble, since your story does not make sense to how I have seen that encounter function countless times when the adds are actually ignored.

Incorrect. The adds stood at range and blasted. Myself, and many others, would run over and unleash our Judgments to take them out. I did this for the iXP and I'm assuming others followed suit.

You should learn to be a bit more tactful. Otherwise, you might earn a rep of being an *******.

So what you meant by "only focus on the AVs and the ambushes are ignored, only to be fodder for the AoEs," was that you didn't ignore them but specifically targeted them and used an AoE on them? That basically what Arcana and StratoNexus were say must have been happening.

Actually...you are both technically right, not wrong. But perception is an odd thing.

During a BAF it does appear to most people that pulling Nightstar and Siege on the Helo pad cause their adds to come there.

I have seen three or four tactics, but the most common are these two.

1) Team A on Siege. Team B on NS, and team 3 where the adds arrive.

2) Pulling both AV's (My prefered and ignoring where the adds come in and letting them come to the AV's

The issue where you are both right...is that if you allow the adds to swarm, judgment while fine, does not prevent the adds, however it's the constant AOE spam, Ice Storms, Ice Slicks, Burning Oil Slicks, Blaster Cones, Controller AOE DoT, and Defender secondaries which anchor on one of the AV's in order to hinder them. In this process many if not all the adds get stuck with these powers.

I hover and while not an AOE master as a controller, My Grav Distortion Field is up all the time, added with Other DoT's and my Psionic Tordado I am contributing to the AOE spam which eventually melts everything. Especially when you add something like my Diamagnetic tier 3 which hampers regen.

However if an add is hitting you, you usually take it out, but not much survives the Judgement, Holds, AOE Spam that takes place around a bunch of enemies in the first place.

So while you are not eagerly focusing on the adds as much as you would in other more typical task forces, it hardly matters because with level shifts, Lore Pets, and enough blasting power, anything around said AV's makes very little dent.

The only argument of getting shot by things might be when the towers activate and you get shot regardless unless you use a certain area of the map which prevents it, but as for ignoreing the adds, you don't need to focus on them as much and that why people think they are being ignored.

They are not, they are just not everyones priority as much as the AV's.

Absolutely, positively, maybe.

So you were not wrong, you were lying. Understood. Next time I will call you a liar instead of saying you were mistaken. Thank you for clarifying the situation.

Your description above is NOTHING like your original description. You do know what the word ignored means right?

Pretty sure the rate you earn iXP is anticipating you converting some threads into XP.

If you end up with an odd number of threads each time, there's no real reason not to. Those 7 threads aren't going to do you much good on their own, so you might as well convert them to XP

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

This is what I have been doing all along...It just makes sense.

I just unlocked lore this way, but I have not slotted it because well...I can't find a pet that makes much sense for me...I might take the power ranger.

So when Im alone in Pocket D...if someone tries to molest my "Virtue" with their ERP, I can say hes my BF.

Except that unless you are planning to never do the trials again you will eventually earn more threads. If you get (say) 7 "odd" threads every trial then after 3 trials you'll be able to trade them for an extra common component.

I would actually say the exact opposite, there is no reason to trade threads for iXP. You will earn sufficient iXP to unlock all four slots well before you get T4 abilities in each slot (in fact unless you get very lucky you'll probably do it before you have T3 abilities). iXP from Trials is free while buying it costs you threads you could use to get more components.

I'm assuming anyone that is consistently getting the worst possible iXP on a BAF would simply convert threads to iXP. It only takes 30 threads to unlock the lower slots and 45 to unlock the higher ones. To unlock both Judgment and Lore without any help from earned iXP would take only 75 threads. That's an amount of threads I would expect anyone to get from thread drops and astral merits in about four BAFs.

If you don't do that, you could conceivably take a huge number of BAF runs to unlock both psychic slots, but that would be voluntary if you want to hoard astrals. The game is giving you enough resources to do it much quicker than that.

Sorry, I should have been more explicit in my original post. When I meant ignored, I meant the main focus was the AVs and when I meant AoEs, I meant Judgments.

I cant speak for the other 23 players, but even when I unleashed my Judgment and AoEs, the main target was the AVs. I don't gain anything by lying and I'm not sure why you are being such a jerk.

The leader of the trial said, 'Ignore the adds, focus on AVs, we'll let AoEs and Judgments deal with adds." And that's what I did.

It's a tradeoff though. Spending threads/astrals on iXP means you don't have them available to spend on components to actually make the abilities.

When the test patch comes out and makes it easier to get commons (both through the drops and downgrading uncommons) it will hopefully become easier to save threads for things like that but at the moment all of my threads/astrals are being used for commons and those are easily the limiting factor on my progression.

It would be for someone who had the slots unlocked. It would not be for someone who didn't have the slots unlocked: that would be the bottleneck in that case, particularly if they ran 20 BAFs and still didn't have Lore unlocked. That's enough threads to make all the commons you would need even if you were getting nothing but uncommon drops.

Right, when I'm playing my tank in this, if someone else has the AVs and isn't in sequestion danger, I'll target the adds, Taunt them and hop back to drag them into the middle. When I'm playing my Cold defender, I'll fire Sleet at them then Ion to thin them out some, popping some purples to survive any return fire. Yes, it slows down work on the AV a bit (though as cold/sonic I'm flooring the AVs resistance anyway without Sleet) but helps keep everyone else alive by keeping the adds cleared out, I've been on a couple of BAFs, mostly early on, where they got too numerous and caused a failure or near failure (finished one with under 5 seconds left on the timer, whew!).

In every instance in which I have converted threads to iXP, I've already had at least a common enhancement crafted and I'm just waiting for the slot to unlock so I can slot it. Hell, I had a Rare Interface already crafted and waiting before I ever unlocked the slot to put it in on one of my scrappers.

Why would I want to run another trial to get that last 11% toward the slot when I can convert a few threads and unlock it now? Especially if I already have something crafted to put in it.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

Opportunity cost. Spending the threads on unlocking the slots means you have fewer threads available to work on the next advancement (whether a new ability for a different slot off upgrading an existing ability).

If your eventual goal is to get T4s in every slot then by the time you reach that point you will have earned way more than enough iXP through the trials to unlock the slots. Therefore spending threads on iXP is slowing down your progression towards T4s.

Now obviously there is the side argument that you derive "fun" from unlocking the slots earlier but from a strictly logical view there is no reason to spend threads on iXP.

Hmmm, I never thought about it that way. I don't mind the BAF, but Lambda, especially that crummy middle part, just doesn't do it for me. If I can get the slots unlocked with a minimum of Lambdas that would be a nice bonus.