World Beater suggestion?

Corruptors
Defenders
Masterminds(easily)
Doms(Or are they too much like controllers?)
Crabs
Blasters

Missing anything folks?

MFing Warshades.

Well THAT was unexpected

I guess I was a little vague. I would like to stay away from melee and pets. Defenders, corruptors (and most will disagree) blasters are a support class.

So crabs or Dom? Is their a powerset combo that shines over the others that I should be looking at?

If blasters are a "support class," then so are crabs and doms.


It sounds like what you're looking for is a ranged damage dealing tank, often called tankmage. Also often called an MFing Warshade. There's a guide in my signature.

Also called a Crab!

Left that out on purpose. Its not a thread until you mention a MFing 'shade.

Which Defender and Corruptor powersets have you been playing?
There are many builds for them that can handle +2/x8 with ease, and simply laugh in the face of AVs and Giant Monsters.

Kin/Dark for my defender. It's looking like I'll dip into the Dom section and see what powerset are strong.
Thanks for the quick feedback guys.

Alas, my PB couldn't... even with her being IOd out the yingyang (incl 6 purples sets)

But doesn't *everyone* already know this?

Well there's your problem right there... purple sets usually have no defense bonuses. All the recharge in the world isn't going to help much if you can't stay alive long enough to finish off the enemy, and PBs have no real mitigation powers that are improved by recharge aside from a heal and Light Form (which cannot be made permanent). A WS can benefit greatly from purples since perma-Eclipse is pretty much "I win" mode, but for a PB you are going to want to boost your defense to stack with Dwarf Form's resists and then get some recharge... getting hit half as often is going to be more protection than being able to click your heal a few seconds earlier.

As far as characters who can solo on +1/x8 or better, I know my S/L softcapped Fire/Fire Blaster can against certain mobs but not against Malta, Arachnos, or groups with lots of mez or exotic damage (Carnies aren't actually too bad if I pop a Break Free proactively since the psi attacks are low damage and all their heavy hitters have a S/L component). A Fire/Dark Corruptor can probably do it easily, especially if you have decent defense from IO sets. Another option is a Sonic/Energy Blaster... use Boost Range and Power Boost plus Siren's Song to put most of a spawn to sleep, quickly finish off the ones it misses, and then use your stunning melee attacks to pummel the sleeping mobs one at a time so they don't ever get to attack you.

Though I have to agree that a Crab is probably your best bet for ranged damage plus survivability. Warshades can be good but trying to go the "MFing Warshade" tri-form route is very active and takes a lot of practice, while Crabs pretty much just sit back and toss explosives and energy barrages at a mob until everything stops moving.

Hehe, I should introduce you to my crab. Struggles at -1/x2. =) But the slotting is so horrid that it's not really a fair call.

As much as I love Kin, a Kin/dark would be a poor man's /kin controller at trying to be a world beater. Rad/dark, or a D3 would be much better at mowing through mobs.

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe ::looks at RaikenX's signature:: Something funny.

All of my characters are a support class. They all support dead mobs, getting from point A to point B as fast as possible, and not dying themselves.

.....Hehehe....i like your logic!

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe ::looks at RaikenX's signature:: Something funny.

My favorite debuff is -HP

Probably "team-based class" would have been a better way to put it. The idea being that Blasters are somewhat poor soloists (in general, relative to some other classes) due to the fact that they focus totally on damage and therefore lack mitigation (not counting IOs). It's a fair description really... even softcapped Blasters perform a lot better with a tank-like character around to gather up mobs and take alpha strikes.

wait, what? Blasters are a support class?

If that's your opinion then there is nothing that will fit the playstyle you want.

So you don't want melee (tanker/scrapper/brute/stalker), you don't want pets (troller/dom/VEAT/WS). and apparently you don't want serious ranged damage (blasters), nor do you want defenders or corruptors. Well i've got news for you, you don't want anything in the game.

The only thing i think that might fit what you're looking for is a petless fire/kin, which does not take SB or ID, so you don't have to bother with buffing anyone. Unfortunately for you, a true Kin anything will be in melee more often then not, due to the nature of it's heal and FS; so again, you don't want anything.

Are you trolling (no pun intended) your own thread?

There are few "world beater" classes... and i wouldn't consider 8/+1 to be world beating either. Any well IO'ed and well built level 50 character, should be able to deal with 8/1 mobs. Its when you're taking on 8, +2, +3, or +4 mobs that you see the true god mode'ers and the posers.

simply look at a list of the "best" farming AT/Powerset combos, and you'll find all the god mode character types.

Off the top of my head they are... Fire/Kin; (pick a non stone brute, preferably one with a damage aura, but it's not necessary); assorted scrappers (though spines/fire/dark/shield with electric melee seem to stand out); kin defenders or corrupter, fire/psy doms, so on and so forth... the list can get pretty long.

any blaster that can't kill a 8/1 mob before (s)he suffers life ending damage is really doing it wrong.

A blaster should be able to do enough burst damage in a short enough period of time to take out a 8/1 mob before it suffers serious damage.

If you don't believe me, i have a fire/en and dp/en blaster and an ice/ice blapper i'd like to intro you to... i also have a rad/fire blaster which is leveling nicely right now, which probably will be even more devastating then those three when it's done.

Too many people build blasters to cover for their faults... personally i prefer to build them to play into their strengths. When your blaster has a plethora of AOE/PBAOE and single target damage options, all slotted with an eye toward dam, acc and recharge... you have a global damage bonus of +100 or more, a to hit of +95% or more, a global ACC of +160% or more... throw in level shifting musculature to boost all your attacks into the 120+% damage range, and you'll literally melt mobs before they have a chance to do more then pee their pants when you attack.

Don't get me wrong... my ice/ice has softcapped s/l, and is much lower damage/rech then the dp and fire, that type of build works well too. But i personally prefer just overwhelming them in a heartbeat.