Best AoE
Anything with Fire.
Rad/Fire blaster
Fire/MM blaster
SS/Fire brute
Fire/Fire tanker
all come to mind.
In general Fire anything sacrifices debuff over DoT damage. And tends to come with alot of AoE.
Also Electric Melee is fairly AoEriffic, and shields defence gives you an AoE attack as well.
So it really depends on what type of character you want to play...beyond just the desire for AoE
Just HAVING AoE doesn't mean it does good damage.
Best AoE, imo, is a Fire/Fire Blaster. But those are awfully squishy. BuildUp+Aim+ Fire Ball + Fire Sword Circle, fully slotted, take out most MOBs HP. Throw in the Blaster Level Rain of Fire and you are really cooking.
You can get more utility, however, out of a Fire/Rad Corruptor. You don't get Build Up or Fire Sword Circle, but you get some really nice debuffs, a teamwide END+RECH+DMG boost (Accelerated Metabolism), and you can still get Rain of Fire. It's not just useful for cleaning up the scraps, it's actually most useful for SOLOing and/or for controlling MOB aggro. Aggro a MOB, then throw RoF near a doorway or corner and you'll control how much of that MOB can get to you (via the SLOW built into RoF).
Sets that have Fire, Elec(non blaster), Shield, and Spines in them. SS and Claws on brutes are good as well. Damage auras are always a help. I made an AoE based scrapper using DB/elec. Without taking all of the AoEs, I still get two AoEs and a damage aura.
Fire/Fire Blaster with both the damage auras with a Fire/Kin Controller supporting them. Ridiculous.
Like someone else said Fire overall brings the AoE.
An interesting AoE build I wanna try is Elec/Shield Brute. You have 2 Teleport attack large radius AoEs along with your APP and a couple from Elec. With enough recharge you should have the Port AoEs up alot.
My fire/fire tank has a no wait for any power aoe attack chain. BU+FE, Burn, FSC, Fireball and Combustion. Thats with blazing aura. Pyronic Judgement here I come. Also, its a little sturdier than an fire/fire blaster.
However, If you are looking for the absolute most AoE's a toon can put out, will probably have to go with a Rad/Fire or a Fire/Fire blaster with a blistering 10 AoE's, cones, and pbaoe aura's. Add another 2 if you take leviathan patron.
For great AoE I can suggest combining Electric Melee and Fiery Aura, any of the combinations work, just depends on how you want it to play out. I'd suggest Tanker, as the AoE damage is high enough anyway to warrent it being slightly lowered for the extra survivability. You don't do any damage when you're dead (unless you have Rise of the Phoenix).
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Either a Fire/Dark corr or a Spines/Electric Scrapper a Spines/Fire isn't bad either but is more squishie and has less endurance.
I always thought a really high recharge archery blaster was a true sight to behold. Crashless nuke every 20 seconds or better...
The other thing I'd like to suggest is a MFing Warshade. It won't do quite as much damage as a fire blaster, but it'll survive about as well as a tank.
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i'm thinking maybe a fire/kin corruptor? would that be good? =D
also whats an "MFing"?
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Crab spiders...here's an example of the number of AoE's they can have:
Heavy burst, high damage cone
Venom grenade, moderate damage ranged AoE, -resist to all damage
Frag Grenade, moderate damage ranged AoE
Suppression, High damage cone
Frenzy, moderate damage PbAoE
Omega maneuver, summoned bomb, superior damage
Ball lightning, moderate damage ranged attack / OR Bile spray, toxic cone
Static discharge, moderate damage cone
Throw in 'call reinforcements' which brings in not just ranged AoE blasts x2, but ranged immobilizes to hold things for AoE's. (which you can do too.)
Most of these recharge fast enough that you can chain them
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Crab spiders...here's an example of the number of AoE's they can have:
Heavy burst, high damage cone Venom grenade, moderate damage ranged AoE, -resist to all damage Frag Grenade, moderate damage ranged AoE Suppression, High damage cone Frenzy, moderate damage PbAoE Omega maneuver, summoned bomb, superior damage Ball lightning, moderate damage ranged attack / OR Bile spray, toxic cone Static discharge, moderate damage cone Throw in 'call reinforcements' which brings in not just ranged AoE blasts x2, but ranged immobilizes to hold things for AoE's. (which you can do too.) Most of these recharge fast enough that you can chain them |
Number of AoE powers does not always mean the best. You can do some crazy things with high recharge and an attack chain of Footstomp, burn and fireball.
Although Venom grenade, ball lightning frag grenade and frenzy can be pretty nuts as well.
Just HAVING AoE doesn't mean it does good damage.
Best AoE, imo, is a Fire/Fire Blaster. But those are awfully squishy. BuildUp+Aim+ Fire Ball + Fire Sword Circle, fully slotted, take out most MOBs HP. Throw in the Blaster Level Rain of Fire and you are really cooking. |
For soloing large groups, I'd go with a Crab Spider, SS/Shield or SS/Fire Brute, Elec/Shield Scrapper, or a Fire/Kin Controller. Or an anything-but-Ninjas/anything-but-Poison Mastermind.
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Assault Rifle is pretty solid for quantity of AoEs.
You get Ignite, Full Auto, and Flamethrower as must-haves, and the extra options of Buckshot and M30 Grenade. It isn't as good as fire, since it still has lots of (highly resisted) lethal damage, but you do get a crashless fast recharge baby nuke with FA, which has the added advantage of immense range.
AR is actually better than Fire Blast for AoE if you just look at the primaries, but Fire also has great single target damage while AR lacks in that area. Also, AR's AoE requires a lot of moving around (Full Auto needs to be fired from far back to catch as many mobs as possible, then move up for Flamethrower and Ignite, finish with Buckshot / Grenade). Fire Blast, on the other hand, can hit a spawn with Fire Breath + Fireball + Rain of Fire from one spot, and Fire Ball and Rain can be used from PBAoE range. Add in AR's redraw and long animation times and Fire becomes a lot more friendly for use with /Fire or /Mental's PBAoEs, plus Fire Blast is far better at boss busting than AR so once you've cleared out the weak targets Fire mops up the bosses faster.
On the other hand, a pure ranged AR/Energy build with an epic / patron cone delivers a staggering amount of AoE from long distance... it just plays better as a pure ranged set than trying to mix it with PBAoEs or damage auras.
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It's a tad silly and a heck of an Endurance hog, but an Elec/Fire/Leviathan Blaster is a ridiculous AoE monster.
BU+Aim, Bile Spray --> jump into the mob while using Ball Lightning --> Fire Sword Circle --> Combustion --> Short Circuit
Throw Burn and/or Consume in there at some point if you want.
Of course, surviving a ranged alpha followed by a lot of melee is another task entirely..... ;p
Crabs are very intense.
When I first read the thread title, the very first AoE power that jumped to mind was Fulcrum Shift. This power is the shiznitt. It's a big AoE buff; it's also an AoE DEBUFF. You clap that on to rain of fire, fire breath, and inferno, then you have mega damage. The best part, the gravy, you can take AoE end drain powers like dark consumption or the ever popular transference (which is fairly uber AoE in the +end category). Then, you have a non-stop self-buffing, self-healing, self-recovery nuking machine!! Fire/kin is popular for a reason. Nuke away!
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what's a good build for alot of aoe dmg?
i know the dominator has that fire rain ability as a patron power which looks really awesome and seems like it could do alot of dmg
but are their any other powers/archetypes that would be really good at AoE dmg?