Rise of the phoenix

Ok...this power seems like it should be good. It never works. Ok...ya it works...you come back to life, but if a boss is anywhere near you, you die immediately again. The big problem I have with it, is that the heal, and the "untouchable" part of it is after 0.25s delay. That sounds pretty quick right? It isn't. Die near a boss, and soon as you are "rising" he slams you back into the ground(and stay there!) cuz you don't have any toggles on and can't even use an inspiration yet. They seem to sneak their attack in while the animation is still activating, but before you become untouchable. I think the kb needs to be higher or something, because bosses seem to resist the kb a lot of times(it's 8.31 mag kb) and the stun(mag 4). Either that, or have the untouchable kick in immediately. Anyone else find this power next to useless unless you conveniently die with no enemies around?

I never seem to have this problem with my /dark scrapper's soul transfer power. I know the effects are different, but that rez is actually useful to me. He could die surrounded by 5 bosses, and rez with no big deal(massive stun to everyone), and turn all his toggles back on no sweat. With my /fire mastery toon, I may as well respec out of it, and go to the hospital.

I've never had that problem with
Brutes: /Fire Armor
Doms: //Fire Mastery
Controllers //Fire Mastery
or Blasters /Fire Manipulation

I think you're having lag issues, because I've never had that happen to me.

I used it twice just last night, once against a Boss, and the other time against a Boss and an EB. I've probably used that power 25 times or so since picking it up, and I've never seen the Boss mob sneak in a hit before the invuln kicks in.

EDIT: This is on a DM/FA Brute.

o.O Haven't had this problem on RotP, in fact it's one of the self-rezes that seems to have an untouchable period that actually seems to work.

This is on a fire/kin/fire controller. Granted, he is farming on +4x8 with bosses so there usually 2 bosses in each mob. But literally, I die all the time when I activate it inside a mob. It happens with my fire/fire/fire tanker too.

I've recently had this problem on my blaster (never had on my scrapper).

Kept trying to kill captain holtz and the honoree by hurling my body at them whenver the nuke was charged followed up by RoTP. Usually the knockback is high enough to knock anything that'd hurt you severely away, but EB's resist that, and often smack you down for more than your recovered life if you're a squishy type standing right next to them, happened twice in a row.

People will play it for 50 levels and still call it Fire Armor.

WARNING: I bold names.

ive seen this happen a few times on my dom with fire mastery

the enemies can get in maybe 1 attack before the untouchable kicks in, ive never died right after rezzing with it, but i have noticed a few baddies pop in a few attacks before the untouchable kicks in

Here is a screenshot of my combat tab. It clearly shows me getting hit by numerous melee attacks after RotP is activated, and before I can use any powers. There is some ranged attacks in there too, but I can live with enemies shooting at me who are outside of the RotP's kb/stun. But it's over 440 pts of damage just from melee attacks. If one of them had been from the Champion of War(Boss), I would have been dead instantly. As it was...that 440 pts of melee damage coupled with the single ranged hit of 334 pts is more than enough to outnumber my 508 pt RotP heal before I can use any of my powers or turn toggles on.

Hopefully this works.

http://img413.imageshack.us/i/cityof...0110221125.png

I don't have RotP on my Brute anymore, but when I did I never had a problem of dying after using it.

I use RotP literally all the time on my Fire/Fire blaster. It's literally key to her attack chain. Occasionally, i do get smacked back down, but the KB and stun it offers are pretty effective. I've seen it Stun EBs (most recently, the Minotaur guarding the Well of the Furies) and I've seen it knock Captain Mako and Sirrocco on their butts (maybe have been Earthquake assisted, can't recall.) And I only have it slotted for recharge (3 slots, that's how often I use it!)

But as with everything YMWV I guess. :-/

You are farming BM. Everyone knows you should use stone epic vrs BM. Go back to demons

Have never had this problem ever with my spines/fire scrapper...

For some versions of RotP the untouchablity doesnt kick in for 0.25 seconds i think. Just like all the rez temps. In that case yes it is possible to die. All that KB/stun should save you though i would hope most of the time.


The brute/scrapper/tank version, unless it was changed within the last 24 hours, gives you the untouchable right away. You can res in anything from those, ive even used them in the middle of apex blue patchs of death. One of the reasons i love that TF