In Preparation for LGTF...

Anyone have crib notes on generally accepted practices for this?

I ask because yes, I find myself being dragged out of my solo hole to run the occasional TF for Notices. I managed to run Kahn a couple of times without borking things too badly. If I do venture a go at the LGTF, I'd like to be prepared, as I'm sure would some other players who don't run the TF often (I've run it once, and darned if I can remember much from it).

There are a couple of guides, but they may not be current (TP foe?). I figured a little preparatory discussion here couldn't hurt (and apologies if this should be in Player Questions).

So, if anyone has commonly accepted shortcuts, preferred Hami strategies, AT roles, things specifically NOT to do...please share.

Thanks.

The kicker is Hami. You need someone who can apply holds, plus a mix of melee and ranged. As long as those conditions are satisfied, it'll be easier than the WSTs to date. Plus it's the first WST we've gotten that's shared, so everyone can play with everyone.

Well, different groups run it differently, but mez protection and stealth is very handy. Also a couple of EoEs can make the hami mish much easier.

It's a highly-stealthable TF if you have SS and mez protection.

*grins* If you've got gravs on the team, especially ones like me who like Wormholing the Rikti into Hami during the next-to-last-mish, try to make sure they don't inadvertently Wormhole the PYLON into Hami as well. It can be rather embarrassing.

Enough folks have done the LGTF to advise the order for taking out the Riders - there's usually a good reason to listen to them.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

People sometimes purposely fail the first mission by getting Penny killed, and they more frequently fail the mission (again, on purpose) that tells you to rescue Glacia and Infernia and fight Hro'Dtohz.

LGTF is one of my fave TFs. The MiniHami is a great mission, and I wish it was in more places in the game. It's really not hard, and I've seen this TF take as little as 30 minutes on a super-speed team. But generally, without shortcuts, it can take 70-90 minutes, if you don't go out of your way to kill everything. Bosstone speaks sooth. And it can be a VERY profitable TF if you take your time. Just remember, get melee, ranged, AND HOLDS. (at least 2 or 3 hold powers on the team that can be spammed is enough - even decently slotted Epic hod powers are enough).

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1st mission strait forward. Go to End save Penny come back to front and Fight Clockwork King.

NOTE: A small group can rush to the back rescue Penny and someone Us Vet TP [Assemble the Team] to bring all including Penny back to the door.

2nd Mission: Strait forward, fight through take each group[ of Riders. 4 Groups. 1 st is 1, 2nd is 2, etc. Some people just run past everything and kill the riders. Most people take them out in order: Famine, Pestilence, Death, War

3rd Mission aka Chatty Kathy. 2 NPC will fight with you can need escorts. The others are just rescue and they run off. 1 can die and you can still "win" the mission. Lost of people kill the off to auto fail the mission.

4th Mission. Hami Time:
Lots of different ways to do this.
1 Rikti and Pylons: Some groups Take out the Rikti then Mitos, and Pylons last. Some take out Rikti and Pyons first. Another, Tank Herds Rikti into the Goo and they fight Mito and Hami. Sometimes they take a few Mitos with them. EoE's from Hami Raids also work here. Yellow are weak to Melee, Blues are weak to Range, Green need to be held(Mag 10) then any damage.

Tip: MM's Hide behind a Big rock and send pets in at Mitos, but don't come out until all pets are dead.

Tip: Most attacks cause -Regen and -Heal (meaning healing as less effect onm you, inspirations, self heal, heal other, etc) Range of Attack is Line of Sight, If you get 3 or 4 stack on you, bereak LoS and wait for them to ware off.

5th and Last mission: Either fight your way down or have someone tp the team. Take out 1st AV, 2nd AV spawns, take him out. Take out the Generators.
Note: There will be ambushes with each Generator Destroyed. Adterward, farm the rest of the map for Purples and shards or just leave.

Five missions:

Mission 1: In this mission you run to the end of the mission, rescue Penny and fight your way out through clockwork. I believe that if Penny gets killed the mission fails so speed runs will often do that to save time.

Mission 2: In this mission you fight through the sewers and meet the 4 riders (Rikti Heavy Assault Suits with special powers). You fight them four times, first against one rider, then 2, then 3 and finally all four. I think that the optimal killing order is: Famine, Pestilence, War, Death although a good team can generally just zerg them.

Mission 3: This is the longest mission and the most popular to fail. You have to fight through the building and caverns to rescue 2 members of omega team, 6 psychics and kill Dra'Gon. Getting the first member of Omega team killed will fail the mission and as such is a popular strategy.

Mission 4: Hami Time! General strategy is to clear the Rikti and Towers first then do Hamidon as in a raid. Basid rules: Yellow Mitos are vulnerable to melee attacks. Blue Mitos are vulnerable to Single Target Ranged attacks, Green Mitos need to be held (a total of mag 10 holds are required) it is technically possible to do ti without holding them but the DPS required makes it generally infeasible on a PUG. Some people will use EoEs to make this easier but on non-masters runs people generally opt to zerg it.

Mission 5: Either TP or fight to the last room. The big bad guy (I forget his name) and Honoree are near the portal surrounded by Rikti. Most team opt to pull them back a bit to avoid fighting them together but a tough team can just zerg them. Afterward destroy the four generators. Watch out for respawning Rikti.

Team Composition: As with most high level content regen debuffs are always very nice to have along for the AVs since it decreases the total damage required form your team. Additionally having sufficient holds for the green mitos vastly increases your chance of getting past them. Controllers/Dominators are obviously the best source of these since almost all have one and they get much better base stats but a decent number of Blasters, Defenders, Corruptors and Masterminds will have one although it's a crapshoot as to how well it's slotted. Melee toons have some access to them in Epic pools but in my experience very rarely take them.

TIP: Leader uses [Self Destruct] at mission complete of the first mission. Leader then goes to Hospitol, which is right next to Lady Grey.

TIP: When Team exits first mission, head accross the "chasm" as the the next mission is usually in one of 2 spots and both are over by the opposite War Wall.

Watch out for the pylons by the second door.

It's embarrassing to die outside a mission like that.

Thanks for the input everyone - this will definitely help. Like I said, I've done one, it was with my Emp, and it was mostly a blur. I've never been on a traditional Hami raid.

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Originally Posted by Bosstone The kicker is Hami. You need someone who can apply holds, plus a mix of melee and ranged. As long as those conditions are satisfied, it'll be easier than the WSTs to date. Plus it's the first WST we've gotten that's shared, so everyone can play with everyone.

That's good, so I can probably pretty much bring anyone and they'd have a role. My Ill/TA might not be bad for the hold part (two ST holds), though he does already have a rare slotted.

Thanks to those who pointed out the order for the mitos and their weaknesses.

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Originally Posted by PuceNonagon Well, different groups run it differently, but mez protection and stealth is very handy. Also a couple of EoEs can make the hami mish much easier. It's a highly-stealthable TF if you have SS and mez protection.

Which would be good for my INV tank, who has SS and a +stealth proc. And he has access to Assemble the Team. Of course, tanking and any lead role that might play really isn't my comfort zone.

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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite *grins* If you've got gravs on the team, especially ones like me who like Wormholing the Rikti into Hami during the next-to-last-mish, try to make sure they don't inadvertently Wormhole the PYLON into Hami as well. It can be rather embarrassing.

Heh...my other character that has the rare slotted is my Grav/Storm. I could see trying that and messing up and/or getting myself killed.

With a good team you can finish the LGTF in under half an hour. With a REALLY good team, you can finish in under 20 minutes.

The standard practices of teams I've been on is as follows:

1st mish: Stealth to Penelope, free her, a team member at the door hist Assemble the Team. Team leader books it for Lady Grey while the team kills CK.

2nd mish: Straightforward, kill the riders and their surrounding mobs.

3rd mish: Find the two heroes, get 'em killed (bonus points if Infernia gets bugged and lets you attack her)

4th mish: Pylons only, ignore the Rikti and train them into the goo if possible. The greens only need 10 mag of holds stacked on 'em, so as long as you've got a good Dom or APP/PPP holds they shouldn't pose a problem.

5th mish: Stealth to the final room, Assemble the Team, bum rush (or pull) Hro'Dtohz, bum rush (or pull) the Honoree. At this point, depending on how well the team is doing, one team member can spike the portal generators.

My philosophy on TFs is the faster the better. You can get inf and shards from radio mishes, and you can get Vanguard merits from Borea mishes. The only thing you can't get from those is Reward Merits, and since TFs are the best source of them, I'd rather get them done quickly. This also applies to NotWs.

It has recently started to become standard practice on Union (well, in one Global channel anyway) to run LGTF as an all-bikini team...

2 points

1) Be very clear on what speed your team is using. It makes for a less pleasant experience when not everyone is on the same page. Have the "I want shards" vs "I want speed" debate before the leader clicks "agree to form a task force".

2) A dom/troller isn't required for Hami. I've seen team recruiting get stalled looking for this when the tools to stack mag 10 holds were already on the team. Many blast sets have a hold as well as epics.

I will just add my 2 cents to what everyone else said.

The Hami can be hard but just get a good mix and its simple, you can just rush it and power your way through. Master run is much harder since you need to take it a little slower and run out if you start taking damage.

Make sure you have a jetpack or flight and it has some time on it makes fighting Mitos easier.

I have always pulled the Rikti into the goo and they do help damage the Mitos some.

Also if your looking for drops/xp and its a speed run - try and get some people to stay and have the leader just quit and don't call it in (repeat with whoever is next till it lands on someone who's staying)

There are a ton of Rikti in the last mission especially in the last room alone.

Just did a speedy LGTF with a pickup group in 35 minutes.