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I am curious then have the devs ever mentioned some thing along the line of thought to eventually make you try other servers? |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
To be honest I've never heard of any cons for upping the limit, I've just heard the devs say they weren't going to do it.
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In other words, could the devs be saying "you got your 36 toons on a server, you could open a second account for the same server or you could try out and connect with more of the community on another server?" ("and we will toss in some free transfers so you can move your favorites toons around
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There is no such thing as a "dead" server. Also, it is okay to play on other servers... that's why they exist after all. Also also, don't you think that maybe the Devs intend for people to start playing on other servers so that they don't appear to some people to be "dead" anymore?|
Originally Posted by YouWish
...on a dead server...
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Also also also, I would love to have more FREE slots added to servers... but could care less if they ever up the max to above 36. I have 31 characters spread over three servers. Of course, I wouldn't complain if they upped the total beyond 36 as it would have, presumably, zero impact on me... I just thought I needed to voice a few things as well.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I don't think the people that are wanting more character slots are interested in the extra reoccurring monthly fee(s).
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Others do *currently.* Yes, that means there can be a disparity in vet rewards - mine are a year and a half (roughly) apart - but it can be, and often is, done now. It also seems the second part of my post was ignored:
"Though I'm close, on some servers, to feeling slot crunch again." And that *IS* with two accounts. So I'm not *against* more slots at all - I'm just pointing out that, if cost isn't an object, you can use a second account. (And yeah, I feel for the EU people - not many servers to branch out ON.)
The cost is not the problem. I've no interest in having some of my characters have large differences in utility due to lack of vet rewards, or the second account thing would be a shoo-in. I'd happily pay per slot and then maybe another five bucks a month to get access to another three pages of character slots. Hell, I would pay double my monthly fee if I got another three pages of purchaseable slots, as long as I got to keep my vet rewards.
I've not run into the character slot problem until quite recently, and if I had seen this coming I would have started a second account at CoX release, and one for my partner as well Hindsight!
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And that might be why some players decided there is no reason to keep their second and third accounts active all the time and only reactivate them for a month at a time when they decide to play a couple of the characters for a change of pace. And while they are on that other account they let their primary account lapse.
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Originally Posted by Silver Gale
Which might be exactly the reason they stopped at 36 slots per server.
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Now this sounds like a fair compromise. I'd gleefully pay a larger monthly fee for extra pages of slots to unlock from the online store.|
Originally Posted by Emberly
The cost is not the problem.... I'd happily pay per slot and then maybe another five bucks a month to get access to another three pages of character slots.
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Call it the advanced package or something.
The basic $14.99 gets you 12 free slots with the option to buy 24 more per server.
Upgrading to the package costs $20 bucks and grants players the ability to buy an additional 24 slots per server.
They could then allow players to buy more than one upgrade and if the need arose they could also allow players to downgrade their accounts back to the base $14.99, but when that gets done they lose access to play the characters over the basic limit of 12+24 purchasable slots.
DDO does that to it's customers. F2P players get "X" character slots and subscribers get more but if an account goes back to F2P they can't play the characters on the extra slots. But they do let the players decide which characters they want to keep playing before they restrict access to the extra slots.
The only downside I could see to more slots is people scarfing up more names, and leaving the game after awhile for good. I'm all in favor of more slots, but right now I'm much more in favor of a name purge on long dead accounts
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They've already done that more than once, and on two occassions they told us they were doing it. So the long inactive accounts aren't tying up any names. |
Originally Posted by Jawbreaker
The only downside I could see to more slots is people scarfing up more names, and leaving the game after awhile for good. I'm all in favor of more slots, but right now I'm much more in favor of a name purge on long dead accounts
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If they do have names then they aren't long inactive accounts because someone would have had to reactivate the accounts in order to get names for the characters.
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When you consider that any character over level 6 (if memory serves) is exempt from name purges, I suspect there are quite a lot of characters collecting dust and keeping names tied up.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
They've already done that more than once, and on two occassions they told us they were doing it. So the long inactive accounts aren't tying up any names.
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Except that on those second, third, and fourth accounts, you don't have any of your veteran rewards, costume codes, etc. from your first one. Got a character idea that you want to make that uses, for example, the Samurai Armor as a major part of his costume, but you're out of slots on your first account? Have fun waiting a year and a half! How about the Cape of the Four Winds? That'll be another $60 to Amazon, please.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
They call that "A second (or third or fourth) account."
Though I'm close, on some servers, to feeling slot crunch again. |
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Wrong. The devs did the datamining and found that most of the names that were freed up were in the range of levels 1-6.|
Originally Posted by Atomic_Woman
When you consider that any character over level 6 (if memory serves) is exempt from name purges, I suspect there are quite a lot of characters collecting dust and keeping names tied up.
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They also came right out and told us that most of the names that were freed up were garbage names that no one would want anyway.
Names like
SGFiller1
liqdfvipqeuv
generic hero 09090000099
***insert name***
And if the day were to come where the devs felt it was necessary to increase the level limit they can do it just as easily as they did when they lowered it from 36 to 6.
Furthermore none of you have any evidence that the software that frees up character names isn't being automatically run everytime they do a server maintenance. They are under no obligation to tell us how often they run the software.
The problem some people have with coming up with new names lies solely the biological interface that is located between the keyboard and the chair of their computer system and is not the fault of the game.
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Like you don't already have some of the best names on Virtue. :P
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Originally Posted by Jawbreaker
The only downside I could see to more slots is people scarfing up more names, and leaving the game after awhile for good. I'm all in favor of more slots, but right now I'm much more in favor of a name purge on long dead accounts
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Agreed. Between the members of my toon crew who are already 50 and the ones who are still "in progress" but definite keepers, I'm down to only two or three open slots on Liberty (my home-server). |
Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I wish they would add more slots per server to purchase. I would gladly fork over more cash to up my limit far beyond 36.
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I've already shifted a trio of toons off to Virtue to establish sort-of an outpost there... but I'd much rather have more space on the server I'm most familiar with, and where most of my in-game friends play.
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Actually, yes I do. It hasn't been run in over 3 years.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Furthermore none of you have any evidence that the software that frees up character names isn't being automatically run everytime they do a server maintenance.
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Quoting myself from another thread - on the same subject, and today -
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The script to free up unused/inactive character names has not been run in years. I can say this with 100% assurance. See, a few years back, NCSoft offered a prestige grant for each character in a SG (I believe it was with the merge of COH and COV "officially" into one game.) I, and many others given in game and forum chatter, snapped up some trial accounts - which weren't restricted at the time - and poured in characters with such fascinating names as SGPG-0001 through -0100 (or however many were made.) I made a check character at the time on Pinnacle, one or two with "name" names. Name? "That guy with bots," a level 1 mastermind. Temporary account, never activated after the 14 days, shoved into the SG and forgotten. His "Last logged on" time? As of today, 1170 days. 3.2 years. (Or 3 years, 2 months, 15 days, if you like.) Anyone who'd like can go to Pinnacle and try to make a character with that name to see if the script has been run, by the way - as of today, it has not. |
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Originally Posted by Atomic_Woman
When you consider that any character over level 6 (if memory serves) is exempt from name purges, I suspect there are quite a lot of characters collecting dust and keeping names tied up.
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Originally Posted by FlashToo
Except that on those second, third, and fourth accounts, you don't have any of your veteran rewards, costume codes, etc. from your first one. Got a character idea that you want to make that uses, for example, the Samurai Armor as a major part of his costume, but you're out of slots on your first account? Have fun waiting a year and a half! How about the Cape of the Four Winds? That'll be another $60 to Amazon, please.
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And if you want the COH CE, just watch. I got several of them (for friends, as that's what I started with, as well as my second account) for $5 a piece.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Actually, yes I do. It hasn't been run in over 3 years.
Quoting myself from another thread - on the same subject, and today - |
Thanks for posting that Bill. Now I remember that thread. I had completely forgotten that you have been checking.
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I dunno, personally, it's not the extra fee that would bother me, it's the lack of stuff that account would have compared to my main. |
Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I don't think the people that are wanting more character slots are interested in the extra reoccurring monthly fee(s).
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If I could buy a 'second account' (Mainly the 36 more slots per server) that was somehow linked to what my main account has, I'd seriously consider paying the additional monthly.
I want another three pages, which I would quickly pay for then fill with new and original character ideas before demanding more pages for slots before I go off to the plaync store and buy the latest booster pack.
*throws money shurikens* TAKE IT, TAKE IT ALL! I WANT MORE THINGS TO BUY!
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I suggested something like this a long while ago, the second account would need to be inseparably linked to the original, or somebody would try to make real dollars by selling newbies accounts with 81 months of vet rewards.|
Originally Posted by Heartbreaker
I dunno, personally, it's not the extra fee that would bother me, it's the lack of stuff that account would have compared to my main.
If I could buy a 'second account' (Mainly the 36 more slots per server) that was somehow linked to what my main account has, I'd seriously consider paying the additional monthly. |
This might persuade me to pay for a second account but probably not, I would however be happy to pay a one off fee for more slots on my chosen servers. I have >180 toons on my account, at least 12 on every server, 36 on Victory, 28? on Justice. 61 50s now which I will not delete, as all have been played pretty much all the way without farming or PLing. I've archived 50s off Victory onto other servers to roll more toons on Victory during the free server moves, and could do with another round of those as I have 18 50s there atm.
At the moment, I have no more toons I want to roll, but come the next round of proliferation or new sets, I will want more.
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Originally Posted by Atomic_Woman
When you consider that any character over level 6 (if memory serves) is exempt from name purges, I suspect there are quite a lot of characters collecting dust and keeping names tied up.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Wrong. The devs did the datamining and found that most of the names that were freed up were in the range of levels 1-6.
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And a great many are held by active and semi-active (reactivate for issues/major patches for a bit, then go inactive) accounts, as well. The point being, the purge has been run twice, and they modified the requirements on the second one because of the results of the first, which was set for "below 36." |
Originally Posted by Ironblade
No, Atomic was not wrong. We can state with absolute certainty that "quite a lot of characters collecting dust and keeping names tied up." Now, we can debate just how many constitutes "quite a lot" but there can be zero doubt that a great many names are held by inactive accounts.
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Most of the time when this comes up, it seems some people think it'll be some miracle naming-cure, letting them somehow be whatever name or two they so desperately "need" - only to find it's still not available. (Meanwhile xXt3hSpYdUrxXx or other similar, "who really wants it" names get freed up.)
I ended up calling for it to be run again with the level changed to 14 simply to deal with the (relatively) newly limited trial accounts. If those meet the 90 day criteria, they're probably not getting converted to full accounts and this is apparently the only way to clean that up.
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Been watching for months with no luck. There must be some kind of secret to it that I'm unaware of, unless the secret is "sit around refreshing Amazon every thirty seconds," which as a student I simply don't have the time to do.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
<-- has them a year and a half apart.
And if you want the COH CE, just watch. I got several of them (for friends, as that's what I started with, as well as my second account) for $5 a piece. |
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What about the idea of transferring slots from other servers. The over all data storage for each player would remain the same.
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