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Originally Posted by Eiko-chan View Post
No. My expensive IOs are staying on my characters to rot.
That's fine. I probably couldn't use them anyway unless they were LotG +Recharge, Obliterations, or Decimations.


 

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Originally Posted by Vidszhite View Post
It's like Eiko won't be happy unless team-centered raid content never comes to City of Heroes.
Not so long as it's linked to a reward system like the Incarnate system, I won't. I don't mind raids existing. I mind raids existing with a reward structure designed as the "next step" for our characters.

I don't think giving ex-customers what they want is the best policy if it means you're locking things away from your current customers.

The devs are gambling on their new end-game raid content bringing in more customers than it drives away.


 

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Originally Posted by Vidszhite View Post
That's fine. I probably couldn't use them anyway unless they were LotG +Recharge, Obliterations, or Decimations.
A lot of them are. So neener.


 

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The way I see it, if you refuse to run TFs even once, you get exactly what you deserve. If you won't compromise, the devs shouldn't be expected to either.
Erm, what about those who CANNOT do it due to time constraints, illness, computer, etc?


 

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Originally Posted by MunkiLord View Post
That's either bad luck it hasn't happened or your team wasn't trying for a speed run.
Not the point. The point is gecko is passing it off as if every team does this and it is almost a surefire thing this is always going to be 30 minutes or less. That is a bold face lie.


 

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Originally Posted by Toony View Post
Erm, what about those who CANNOT do it due to time constraints, illness, computer, etc?
I'm curious to why you included computer in there.


 

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Originally Posted by Toony View Post
Not the point. The point is gecko is passing it off as if every team does this and it is almost a surefire thing this is always going to be 30 minutes or less. That is a bold face lie.
gecko said this(I quoted this from your post earlier):
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LGTF
ITF
Kahn TF

Not one of them took longer than 30 minutes. Can every player expect that? No. Not all the time. But some of the time you can. Playing the WST ensures you're going to be playing at the same time as powergamers who know every trick for shortening these tasks. The casual option is clear to me.
So he states not every team does this. He says some of the time you can expect this.

Now that statement assumes one is trying for a speed run. You know this. It is implied and obvious.

So you are intentionally twisting his words and actively making up meaning in his statement, and you accuse him of telling a "bold face lie"?

Nice try.


 

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Originally Posted by Eiko-chan View Post
A lot of them are. So neener.


 

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Originally Posted by Mr. DJ View Post
I'm curious to why you included computer in there.
Some people play CoH on computers that can't handle large teams or raids. I used to, then I realized playing on a computer I built 10 years ago was BS, so I saved up and built a new one.


 

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I'm curious to why you included computer in there.
My computer sometimes has fits in large teams. I can't predict when it'll happen. It might happen several times a team or once a week, it's random. However larger teams do aggrivate it and if you have me in your TF as a main tank or buffer, you will be accepting the risk that I suddenly stop moving for 10 minutes. Now you may say "Well then I don't want to team with you" and thats fine. I don't want to cause the team to fail because of my computer. So give me a sane way of doing things.

As it is I will run the TF's and if I freeze up and the team wipes or I cannot help on the last mission, well, what happens happens. I personally think those other players who have issues that may cause them to leave SHOULD join TF's. If they have to leave or constantly go afk, oh well. I mean, we wouldn't want to trivialize the content. Think of it as "added difficulty".


 

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Originally Posted by MunkiLord View Post
gecko said this(I quoted this from your post earlier):


So he states not every team does this. He says some of the time you can expect this.

Now that statement assumes one is trying for a speed run. You know this. It is implied and obvious.

So you are intentionally twisting his words and actively making up meaning in his statement, and you accuse him of telling a "bold face lie"?

Nice try.
So where were those power gamers he ensures I was teamed with?

Lie.


 

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got'cha, I know my computer is slowly heading towards that end of the tunnel where I'm going to have to upgrade some time...


 

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Originally Posted by Eiko-chan View Post
The devs are gambling on their new end-game raid content bringing in more customers than it drives away.
The odds are stacked so heavily in their favor, it hardly counts as a gamble at all


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So where were those power gamers he ensures I was teamed with?

Lie.
Again, you're making stuff up. He said:

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Playing the WST ensures you're going to be playing at the same time as powergamers who know every trick for shortening these tasks.
He only stated you're going to be playing at the same time, not with them. If you don't seek them out or luck onto a team with some, so be it.

You are putting meaning into the statement beyond what is there.

Lie.


 

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Originally Posted by MunkiLord View Post
Again, you're making stuff up. He said:



He only stated you're going to be playing at the same time, not with them. If you don't seek them out or luck onto a team with some, so be it.

You are putting meaning into the statement beyond what is there.

Lie.
So what was he trying to do? Brag he ran speed TF's? His post then contained no merit. I suppose I shouldn't of tried to read value in a post with nothing in it.


 

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
The odds are stacked so heavily in their favor, it hardly counts as a gamble at all
Your overconfidence is your weakness!


 

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Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
Where is the cut-off between "encouraging teaming" and "forced teaming?"
If you flatly cannot earn X without teaming, that's forced.

If teaming is the most efficient way to get X but you can still earn it by other means, whatever they may be, that's encouraged.

I'm fine with investing multiples of time over the teamed average to get whatever X is by solo means as long as it isn't just ridiculous, like trying to get the badge by killing that one Infected that sometimes spawned in Atlas, or wherever.


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Originally Posted by Eiko-chan View Post
The devs are gambling on their new end-game raid content bringing in more customers than it drives away.
I suspect the devs know a lot more about what the general player populace wants than you or I do. I further suspect that this shift toward end-game teaming content is being done because that's what the majority of the playerbase wants. I can't prove that, of course, but unlike some people I won't claim to know one way or the other. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.


 

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On another note, regarding the OPs image...I'd probably find 100M and 88 shards more acceptable if it were a Favor of the Well. Who knows...this isn't set in stone yet...I think...


 

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Originally Posted by Toony View Post
Your overconfidence is your weakness!
As you're a soloer, I can't give the correct response


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I'd just like to say that this:

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Originally Posted by Ironik View Post
Catering to only one group -- a group that has demonstrated a remarkable lack of empathy towards anyone else so far in this thread
In which you paint an entire group (which is not, as near as I can tell, even one group, other than in the broad sense of, "Everyone who doesn't agree with me") as having a single mindset/mode of interaction, despite evidence to the contrary, followed immediately by this:
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This is precisely the kind of attitude that I'm talking about. It's divisive and unhelpful. There's no need for it.
Really should earn you a gold star for forum name choice.


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So what was he trying to do? Brag he ran speed TF's? His post then contained no merit. I suppose I shouldn't of tried to read value in a post with nothing in it.
He was just pointing out how quickly earning a Notice could be. If you can't understand his point, or would rather just make stuff up(like you were just doing), that is on you.


 

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Originally Posted by Eiko-chan View Post
"I would prefer not to team. I have reasons for this."

"The only problem here is you, then."
Way to twist around what the other guy said. Let's try this again:

"I would prefer not to team. I have reasons for this."

"If you don't team then you don't get the benefits of teaming."

He's not (as I understand it, I suppose I should note although I would think this caveat is obvious) attacking you, he's saying that if you're not willing to pay for a Porsche, then you don't get to drive it home. You choose not to team, you choose not to take advantage of team-based rewards/systems.


 

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You don,t need purples to build a good balance I sold a yellow and got 100,000,000 for it ,may have been a miss type but even ordinary enhancements can sell for over 100,000 in the store so would not take long to build your balance ,join lvl 50 teams and start dropping them also the reciepe,s that you get as well.It is so easy these days to gather inf.


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Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
As you're a soloer, I can't give the correct response
I'm actually not. I solo and team. I did two Apexs today and a Kahn the other day. I do like the option to solo as teams are not always there (especially redside.)

I just see no reason to punish others when both sides can have a fun time and fair advancement. No one needs to suffer for the others and I do not understand the glee some get over the idea that those who have time constraints will not be able to advance past a snails pace.