Discussion: A Sneak Peek into Issue 20 - The Behavioral Adjustment Facility

Omg I'm actually agreeing with you 0.0

Thank you devs for the solo option. I'll try to run the TF's, I don't think I'll be able to, issues and whatnot ...so at least I have a solo option to fall back on.

again: Thank you!

I'm glad we don't, because I wasn't suggesting that we should. I was asking if this scenario could happen.

Going by Positron's reply elsewhere, the answer seems to be 'yes it could, but we've thought of that':

I'm happy with that.

I'm putting the discussion down very slowly and walking backwards away from the zombie.

And actually, these are the reasons I've remained quiet about the "soloist" issue. My initial concerns were that solo and small team players would have no alternate path for incarnate advancement.

However, there IS now a path for the solo/small team player. It is slower, and exorbitantly expensive, but it exists. It's a compromise that I'm personally satisfied with.

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Don�t say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary. - R.W. Emerson

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OK. I like new high level content. It's right nice. HOWEVER....

what are you doing for the under 50 crowd? A pay Animal Pack? Nice, but, you have to pay for it. (Not that I won't).

I want to see some new lower level content too. Some reworking of Boomtown, maybe? A new zone in the Rogue Isles? Finish the highway to they've been working on for several years? How about some contacts for non-pretorians of lower level to do their part in the coming war?

I like shards as much as the next guy with a couple L50's... but I got 2 of them and a whole passel of characters under 50, and I'd like to see something for them.

That said, nice going and it sounds like a nice, hard series of events. I can hardly wait to tear up that evil mind control facility. It's a crime against humanity, and both my villains (who are anarchists or libertarians at best) and my heroes want to have a piece of that!

Three brand new zones of Praetoria, remember? lowbies got the GR love first.

We're paying for the same cake you are. Why shouldn't we expect to have a bite?

All the arguing against the wants of solo players seems to be from people who think that WoW is the only template for an MMO. CoH has been solo friendly from day one. What concerns me is the new attitude and direction -- raid raid raid raid raid! And it's challenging! You have to figure out how to do ti juuuuuuuuust right. And you don't have to have certain powersets and AT's, it's just that some powersets and AT's will be next to useless, but they can come along and watch.

It sucks. If they stay on this path it will kill what makes this game special. Raiders have Hami raids. Let them do that.

Give us more story. Give us more worlds. Level cap is just a number. You can raise it to 1000 and people will still reach it and then you'll have to raise it to 1001. It won't make the game more intersesting. It just adds to the endless grinding. I'd rather have real content. Interesting content. Things that make me go wow, not WoW.

I have to agree fully here. After taking the last 15 minutes to read through some of the feedback on the BAF trial, I too am having my concerns of where the game is being dragged reinforced. I am an average casual player, and not someone who has the time to go out and grind out inf in order to be able to 'bling out' (as one friend put it) my lone 50 in order to be able to have a chance at succeeding at one of the new trials.

I'm also with Heroid here, in that I've feared for the last little while the devs have been trying to entice players from other MMOs by thinking that they have to emulate those MMOs in order to do so. Please don't do that, it may just end up ruining the game for more people then you entice.

Let me put it another way:

There are two local media conventions that I have been attending and helping out with for the past 15 years. One has a total attendance of around 2,000. The other had an attendance last year of 18,600! For a number of years I kept on hearing some people at the smaller convention saying thing like "Oh man, what can we do to get some of those attendees from <that other con>?", and I would try to explain to some that "Look, 9 out of 10 of those attendees won't be interested in our con, so trying to find a way to change to entice them isn't going to work."

I'm worried that some of the devs are starting to listen to those posters here who have been claiming for years that "We have to get up to WoW numbers in order to remain viable!"

Yes, give us more challenging content, but please don't ignore what made this game fun for many in the first place.

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to use your own argument, we're paying for the same piece of cake. I am in the middle on this, I am both a team player, and a soloer. My main made it to 50 by soloing almost exclusively, but now that he is fifty, yet I have other characters which exist TOO team. As such I feel I have a rather unique perspective, or perhaps a more common one. I feel that it is important to get solo content into the game, I can almost without a doubt, guarantee you aren't among the badgers who have ran ALL the solo content, so there are THREE raids now, the Hami Raid, the Mothership Raid, and now this, for those with heavy team mentality to run. Yet you fault them getting this when you have not stopped and smelled the roses on your own content yet. If it is such an objection to you, make solo friendly MA arcs that actually have story, and depth.

There are a million and one things to do in this game, and you will keep advancing doing all of them thanks to our Devs brilliant foresight in allowing us to attain shards while exempted. Now, I for one, am gonna go out and catch some badguys,

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@Enforcement, Signing Out

I don't have a problem with them making more raids. I have a problem with the story content not being available unless you do the raids, and, in this instance, you also pay a heavy penalty levelling wise if you don't raid. I would like to see the game more open to ALL styles of play. ALL of the stories and content. The current system makes people who choose not to raid into after-thoughts.

And why not open that content up to solo player also?

There is?

Okay, I'm being facetious, but you'd hardly know for the "Rush rush rush... Okay, teleport to the end here... Right we're intentionally failing this one... Geez, yet another kill all in a boring warehouse...etc" in most of the TFs. Especially blue-side.

LOL!

But that's another reason to open it up to more casual play.

There is tons of stuff you can do solo in CoH, regardless of level. At 50, you still have arcs/contacts you can do. You also have Ouroboros with its plethora of contacts and missions. If I throw AE in it, it is just infinite.

Edit: and the way this BAF works now, it seems to me they learned a thing or two from a long time favorite game of mine, Guild Wars. You click to enter and regardless of AT or power sets, you will get in and you do have a role to play and something to contribute.