Dear Devs: Which one of you decided...
By
Arcanaville,
Posted on: 2011-02-07 16:43 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I totally sympathize with your problems however, having never seen this before (and never having had it happen to me), I had to laugh when I read it.
"Oh, you have got to be [ahem]-ing kidding me..."
The CoT like their privacy. They figured a giant living crystal and a giant living plant standing outside their base was the perfect defense.
They forgot the implications for when they wanted to leave, though...
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
Quote:
Probably the same dev that didn't think through carefully the logical consequences of putting a decorative door at the back of the natural store in steel canyon.
|
Originally Posted by SpaceNut
that Monster Island was a good place for a mission door?
|
[Guide to Defense] [Scrapper Secondaries Comparison] [Archetype Popularity Analysis]
In one little corner of the universe, there's nothing more irritating than a misfile...
(Please support the best webcomic about a cosmic universal realignment by impaired angelic interference resulting in identity crisis angst. Or I release the pigmy water thieves.)
The save dev that made it possible to be in one corner of Indy Port and get a mission in the opposite corner? 
In all seriousness, it seems that there's a pool of doors that can be used for any mission, at random, in each zone. It's possible that some of them could use removing from that pool.
Proud member of Everyday Heroes (Infinity Heroes), Dream Stalkers (Infinity Villains), Devil Never Cry (Freedom Heroes), Enclave of EVIL (Pinnacle Villains), Phobia (Infinity Villains), Les Enfant Terribles (Freedom Villains), Gravy Train (Virtue Heroes), and more!
Full, detailed character list
Probably the same dev who decided that right beside Imperial City's trainer is a good spot to place a present.
Quote:
A thousand times over.
|
Originally Posted by Signpost
Probably the same dev who decided that right beside Imperial City's trainer is a good spot to place a present.
|
Enjoy your day please.
Quote:
The "Shop" next door also leads to the Natural store unless they fixed it.
|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Probably the same dev that didn't think through carefully the logical consequences of putting a decorative door at the back of the natural store in steel canyon.
|
@Blood Beret(2)Twitter
I am a bad speeler, use poorer grammar, and am a frequent typoist.
MA ArcID: 1197
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. Winston Churchill
The same Dev that thought that knee high tufts of grass and empty garbage cans should have collision detection and be irresistible objects.
Speeding Through New DA Repeatables || Spreadsheet o' Enhancements || Zombie Skins: better skins for these forums || Guide to Guides
Quote:
You just do what any smart commuter would: Hop on the train to Brickstown, exit back into IP, and whalah: You're significantly closer in a faction of the time. Or, if it's the other way around, exit to Bricks, take the train back to IP, and boom: You're a few hundred yards away from Statesman.
|
Originally Posted by Patteroast
The save dev that made it possible to be in one corner of Indy Port and get a mission in the opposite corner?
|
Quote:
I don't see why the door mentioned in the OP should need removal. You go in, run past the giant monsters, and click the door |
Originally Posted by Patteroast
The save dev that made it possible to be in one corner of Indy Port and get a mission in the opposite corner?
In all seriousness, it seems that there's a pool of doors that can be used for any mission, at random, in each zone. It's possible that some of them could use removing from that pool. |
BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
Doors aren't supposed to be spawning there. War Witch, before she was Lead Dev, and IIRC, even before Positron held that position, attempted to remove all doors on both MI and the PI version, though a few missed the pass that was patched to Live. She made another pass, and all seemed well for awhile.
Now, they're back again. Get in touch with one of the Arbiters here about it, and they'll direct you to the person currently in charge of fixing it, or will pass it on to that person.
[ ProTip: The banner is a link to art refs!! | The Khellection | The HBAS Repository | Brute Guides (4/16/10) | How To Post An Image - A Quick Guide ]
Biggest Troll on the forums? I'll give you a hint:
The same Dev that decided a contact should give no missions in their own zone, but rather put the doors completely across town?
Quote:
But the door at the back of the Natural store has an especially nasty gotcha associated with it.
|
Originally Posted by Blood_Beret
The "Shop" next door also leads to the Natural store unless they fixed it.
|
[Guide to Defense] [Scrapper Secondaries Comparison] [Archetype Popularity Analysis]
In one little corner of the universe, there's nothing more irritating than a misfile...
(Please support the best webcomic about a cosmic universal realignment by impaired angelic interference resulting in identity crisis angst. Or I release the pigmy water thieves.)
Quote:
Thorn Caster: Shut the door! SHUT THE DOOR!|
Originally Posted by SpaceNut
that Monster Island was a good place for a mission door?
It's one thing to have to run across Peregrine Island to stop the CoT from controlling the Powers. It's quite another thing to have your mission door guarded by a Quarry and a Thorn... |
Thorn Wielder: But why?
*Cue "King Kong" moment as big rocky hand shoots through the door, grabs the Thorn Wielder, and drags them, screaming, outside to a horrific end.*
Thorn Caster: THAT'S why you dummy! *SLAM!*
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
Or probably the same one who keeps sending me to paper missions inside the Architect building. But I thought it wasn't real?
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
|
Quote:
One of the NPC Architect patrons mentions the rumor that it isn't a simulation at all but a doorway to dimensions of infinite possibilities.
|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Or probably the same one who keeps sending me to paper missions inside the Architect building. But I thought it wasn't real?
|
The best comics are still 10�!
My City of Heroes Blog Freedom Feature Article: "Going Rageless?"
If you only read one guide this year, make it this one.
Super Reflexes: the Golden Fox of power sets!
WARNING: I bold names.
Quote:
That makes total since.... and you might even make it... But when you exit the mission you can go straight to the Hosiptal, Saves you lots of travel time.
|
Originally Posted by BrandX
I don't see why the door mentioned in the OP should need removal. You go in, run past the giant monsters, and click the door
|
"My life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely pretty and well preserved, but rather I will skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming...WOW...What a Ride"
Quote:
Stop taunting us. Say what it is ...
|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
But the door at the back of the Natural store has an especially nasty gotcha associated with it.
|
Jerk 4 Life
In brightest day, in blackest night/No evil shall escape my sight/Let those who worship evil's might/Beware my power ... Green Lantern's light!/(Meowth, that's right!)
My Arcs: #4827: Earth For Humans. #6391: Young Love.
Are you talking about the little invisible wall surrounding the door in the back of the store? You can get through it rather easily with fly by turning it on and off really fast while running into the barrier. (Toggling from fly to hover and back works even better.) It is rather odd and entirely buggy, and it's been that way since I remember.
Proud member of Everyday Heroes (Infinity Heroes), Dream Stalkers (Infinity Villains), Devil Never Cry (Freedom Heroes), Enclave of EVIL (Pinnacle Villains), Phobia (Infinity Villains), Les Enfant Terribles (Freedom Villains), Gravy Train (Virtue Heroes), and more!
Full, detailed character list
Quote:
That doesn't always work for me.|
Originally Posted by Patteroast
Are you talking about the little invisible wall surrounding the door in the back of the store? You can get through it rather easily with fly by turning it on and off really fast while running into the barrier. (Toggling from fly to hover and back works even better.) It is rather odd and entirely buggy, and it's been that way since I remember.
|
And the problem with that door has to do with logout logic. If you happen to be standing at or near the Natural store NPC at the back and decide to log out, on login the game will do what it always does: if you are near a door when you logged out, it will instead of logging you back in at that spot it will perform an animation that has you exiting the nearest door. The problem is that in this specific case, that will place you coming out of that back door and entering the store behind the counter. The counter, as Patteroast mentions, has an invisible force field around it. A new player that does this, which isn't a completely unlikely thing to do, will find themselves stuck in a box they cannot get out of without something like a zone teleporter (Ouro, Pocket D, mission teleporter, market porter, etc). Or, there are supposedly tricks you can use to jump out of it, like Patteroast mentions, but they do not seem to consistently work for me. And because I sell at that store a lot, I still find myself occasionally slipping up and logging out at that spot and then having to port out of it the next time I log in.
[Guide to Defense] [Scrapper Secondaries Comparison] [Archetype Popularity Analysis]
In one little corner of the universe, there's nothing more irritating than a misfile...
(Please support the best webcomic about a cosmic universal realignment by impaired angelic interference resulting in identity crisis angst. Or I release the pigmy water thieves.)
Quote:
Use the /stuck command; that's what I use. It shunts me onto the otherside of the barrier each time.
|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
That doesn't always work for me.
And the problem with that door has to do with logout logic. If you happen to be standing at or near the Natural store NPC at the back and decide to log out, on login the game will do what it always does: if you are near a door when you logged out, it will instead of logging you back in at that spot it will perform an animation that has you exiting the nearest door. The problem is that in this specific case, that will place you coming out of that back door and entering the store behind the counter. The counter, as Patteroast mentions, has an invisible force field around it. A new player that does this, which isn't a completely unlikely thing to do, will find themselves stuck in a box they cannot get out of without something like a zone teleporter (Ouro, Pocket D, mission teleporter, market porter, etc). Or, there are supposedly tricks you can use to jump out of it, like Patteroast mentions, but they do not seem to consistently work for me. And because I sell at that store a lot, I still find myself occasionally slipping up and logging out at that spot and then having to port out of it the next time I log in. |
Quote:
That also doesn't always work for me.
|
Originally Posted by Major Deej
Use the /stuck command; that's what I use. It shunts me onto the otherside of the barrier each time.
|
[Guide to Defense] [Scrapper Secondaries Comparison] [Archetype Popularity Analysis]
In one little corner of the universe, there's nothing more irritating than a misfile...
(Please support the best webcomic about a cosmic universal realignment by impaired angelic interference resulting in identity crisis angst. Or I release the pigmy water thieves.)
I went into the store in question earlier to check this out, and ... I encountered no invisible wall?
Did this maybe get silently changed at some point?
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Softcapping an Invuln is fantastic. Softcapping a Willpower is amazing. Softcapping SR is kissing your sister.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Void_Huntress
I went into the store in question earlier to check this out, and ... I encountered no invisible wall?
Did this maybe get silently changed at some point? |
Did you stand next to the vendor at the back of the store that is next to the counter, log out, and then log back in? You should see yourself not back where you logged out, but entering the door at the back of the store, which puts you behind the counter.
I just tested this on test, and /stuck did in fact knock me out of there. In fact, it didn't just put me on the other side of the barrier, it warped me to the far side of the store near the entrance. I don't recall that working for me the last time I tried /stuck, but that was a long time ago: whenever I found myself back there more recently (as in: the last few years), I would just teleport out. Maybe /stuck started working after I had given up on it.
[Guide to Defense] [Scrapper Secondaries Comparison] [Archetype Popularity Analysis]
In one little corner of the universe, there's nothing more irritating than a misfile...
(Please support the best webcomic about a cosmic universal realignment by impaired angelic interference resulting in identity crisis angst. Or I release the pigmy water thieves.)
that Monster Island was a good place for a mission door?
It's one thing to have to run across Peregrine Island to stop the CoT from controlling the Powers. It's quite another thing to have your mission door guarded by a Quarry and a Thorn...