Travel Suppression in Praetoria Auction House
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BlueTurbo,
Posted on: 2011-01-27 14:51 in Player Questions
Its power supression, not just travel suppression.
Its most likley in response to many complaints about people spamming powers like healing aura/hasten/etc, drive by buffing, and annoying pets while shopping.
FWIW I hate it (power suppression) too. Making the auction house annoying to visit is something that makes me play less in preatoria. A better way would of been to have a studio B type set up, so you could choose to go to the power supressed section or not.
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All powers get turned off, not just suppressed. If you want to know why you can go to any WW/BM on Virtue -- I'll bring my Spines/Fire with Quills and Flames going, and arrange for any number of Kins to drive-by SB you, while a half-dozen MMs have full sets of pets out.
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Bring it! LOL
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Originally Posted by Talonflash
All powers get turned off, not just suppressed. If you want to know why you can go to any WW/BM on Virtue -- I'll bring my Spines/Fire with Quills and Flames going, and arrange for any number of Kins to drive-by SB you, while a half-dozen MMs have full sets of pets out.
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Global Name: Denver Nugget
Playing since i3 on 8 servers
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Pretty much that.|
Originally Posted by Talonflash
All powers get turned off, not just suppressed. If you want to know why you can go to any WW/BM on Virtue -- I'll bring my Spines/Fire with Quills and Flames going, and arrange for any number of Kins to drive-by SB you, while a half-dozen MMs have full sets of pets out.
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I used to get annoyed that those of us who didn't want to have our systems bogged down by numerous users unwilling to turn off their AoE's or that actually would willfully turn them on in hubs like Talos/Cap Au should get our own little closet to huddle in.
But I listened to peoples various reasons.
Like people hopping in between missions in a TF or arc to empty their pockets.
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To pick up inspirations that they had left sitting there and could snag more easily then hitting the base.
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A quick market check.
For some AT's/Powersets it can be a major pain in the backside to re-toggle or re-summon pets and not necessary if you're only going to be there for a minute.
I realized that it is not unreasonable for me to hop into a 'Studio B' style room to get away from that. Just make sure that the room is far enough underground that it doesn't still pick up people powers or street noises. 'Studio b' is erroneously called the 'Quiet Room' which I assure you, it is not, because you can still hear the powers of everyone out in the data stream room AND the traffic noise.
Generally, if I'm at the market I turn of AoE's/Shields/pets, especially if I'm going to be there for a while. I've noticed that there are players that are not that concerned with their fellow players.
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And that would be a problem why?
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Originally Posted by Talonflash
All powers get turned off, not just suppressed. If you want to know why you can go to any WW/BM on Virtue -- I'll bring my Spines/Fire with Quills and Flames going, and arrange for any number of Kins to drive-by SB you, while a half-dozen MMs have full sets of pets out.
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I get way more lag at the market trying to search with autocomplete guessing what I want to say as I type each letter than Ive ever had from power/pet spam in 3 years of playing on a mediumload server.
I have never heard if that's just some issue with my PC or if it's everyone.
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And that means they can't take one second to click their pulsing toggle off and then click it again before re-entering he mission? For MM pets, a simple /macro Goto "petcom all goto" and then placing off to the side is no effort at all (I know I do it). For Controllers, just desummon. The recharge is fast enough that you can have a new pet when you enter the mission.|
Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Like people hopping in between missions in a TF or arc to empty their pockets.
Or To pick up inspirations that they had left sitting there and could snag more easily then hitting the base. Or A quick market check. |
I don't buy the excuses for not doing such simple things. It's either abject stupidity or deliberate rudeness on their part. Neither is acceptable.
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Well said to those that expect other people to turn off powers or desummon pets and move their annoyance to some one else. |
Originally Posted by JD_Gumby
It's either abject stupidity or deliberate rudeness on their part. Neither is acceptable.
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I am glad I don't have to worry about my WP toons that give less visuals than my toons with auras blazing, or when I SS pass the CAD BM on my way to missions and not worry about my speed cutting out, or using toggles that root like on my ice tank...especially when I am the only one at the market and no one is being affected.
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Not as rude as expecting someone to inconvenience themselves to please you when you could just go to a different zone without a crowded market - or, you know, buy a computer made since y2k.
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Originally Posted by JD_Gumby
I don't buy the excuses for not doing such simple things. It's either abject stupidity or deliberate rudeness on their part. Neither is acceptable.
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If you have a valid in-game reason to have all your toggles and pets running while standing INSIDE a building with no enemies, feel free to complain about the suppression. There is no powerset that takes longer than 30 sec (and that's a large guess. I bet it's faster) to turn on everything you want without pets, and pets don't take that much longer when you can target one pet to train them all.
They should do it at every market in every zone in the game. Ask them to find a solution that doesn't involve permanent de-toggle instead.
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No, they shouldn't cave in to people that want to transfer their problems onto others.
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
They should do it at every market in every zone in the game.
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It's not lag or anything like that. It's the irritating, pulsing visuals and those godsdamned tier 2 demons that WON'T SHUT THE <BLEEP> UP. Plus pets completely obscuring the auctioneer so that you have to waste time trying to find an angle from which you can click.
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Originally Posted by rsclark
Not as rude as expecting someone to inconvenience themselves to please you when you could just go to a different zone without a crowded market - or, you know, buy a computer made since y2k.
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I believe it was an experiment. |
Originally Posted by shaggy5
Why is there this suppression in the Auction House in Praetoria? I can't think of a good reason why the devs did this. Sometimes I try to give understanding about something I don't like because the devs had a good reason, but I can't begin to think of how this makes anything better or more fun for anyone...
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There are many folks that leave powers on(like Shadowfall or Steamy Mist) that can actual lag other players in the market. More than a few players act hostile when asked to turn them off, and some will even grief. Suppression takes this away, but it's not selective(no crafting table, no tp, no nothing).
It makes sense to test it in Praetoria, aka oppression central, to see how well it is received. I doubt it will be implemented elsewhere, based on the current feedback.
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I don't mind the anti-power-field in the auction house, but I do dislike that the NPCs are all at the back of the room, forcing me to jog at what feels like a snail's pace over to them.
And as much as I can see some peoples' desire to proliferate this to the other markets, I don't think it's a particularly good idea red side with the current "open air" concept it has going ('specially in cap; it's right in the middle of the path from the ferry to everything else in the zone).
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Interesting. I also don't care for having to retoggle after visiting the Praet. trading house. It's annoying and not really much fun. I also agree that it's OK to make a quick stop sometimes with everything running, I do it often myself.
However I do empathize somewhat with folks who don't care for people "rocking the aura" constantly at the various auction houses.
May I propose a compromise?
Take *some* of the auction houses and add power suppression. Leave others alone for those who want to make a "quick stop" or who don't care about auras and such like.
For example, Talos and Atlas Park are traditionally more busy because of all the traffic in those zones. Leave those alone for "quick stops." Add power suppression to the WW in Steel Canyon and King's Row. SC is close to the University, so it's quiet for folks who are actually crafting. KR is ... well no reason, just trying to split it 50/50.
Same with Black Market. Leave the BM in Mercy and Cap alone. Cap is the main "grand central station" redside. And for crafting I know there's an Abandoned Lab close to St. Martinal BM, I use it often. So the the BM in St. Mart could be used by people who what peace and quiet and want to actually craft. Sharkhead BM is ... again just Shark. Trying to split things 50/50 again.
Just a thought....
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Wow. You are full of yourself aren't you? I don't know if you noticed it, but the economy these days sucks. Not everyone can run out an buy a new gaming computer. Especially if they're unemployed. |
Originally Posted by rsclark
Not as rude as expecting someone to inconvenience themselves to please you when you could just go to a different zone without a crowded market - or, you know, buy a computer made since y2k.
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It only takes one self-centered jerk like yourself to screw up WW/BM for everyone else there at the time. There is a lot more I'd like to add here but I don't want to get banned from the forum. Please don't bother to reply. You are my first new ignore since the forums were reset.
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for me i actually have way way way more lag with the autocomplete turned off|
Originally Posted by Psychic Guardian
I get way more lag at the market trying to search with autocomplete guessing what I want to say as I type each letter than Ive ever had from power/pet spam in 3 years of playing on a mediumload server.
I have never heard if that's just some issue with my PC or if it's everyone. |
other than that i have pretty much 0 lag at the market
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Yes actually they should. All they have to do is add a "quiet room" like the AE buildings have. Then the players that want can choose to do their transactions there and the ignorant louts can go suck eggs in the regular section of the market.
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Originally Posted by PennyPA
No, they shouldn't cave in to people that want to transfer their problems onto others.
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I was thinking they could just add a room next to the market locations. Say a manhole cover at the BM's that go to an underground "quiet" room redside, and adding a door inside the Wents blueside.
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Originally Posted by gameboy1234
Interesting. I also don't care for having to retoggle after visiting the Praet. trading house. It's annoying and not really much fun. I also agree that it's OK to make a quick stop sometimes with everything running, I do it often myself.
However I do empathize somewhat with folks who don't care for people "rocking the aura" constantly at the various auction houses. May I propose a compromise? Take *some* of the auction houses and add power suppression. Leave others alone for those who want to make a "quick stop" or who don't care about auras and such like. For example, Talos and Atlas Park are traditionally more busy because of all the traffic in those zones. Leave those alone for "quick stops." Add power suppression to the WW in Steel Canyon and King's Row. SC is close to the University, so it's quiet for folks who are actually crafting. KR is ... well no reason, just trying to split it 50/50. Same with Black Market. Leave the BM in Mercy and Cap alone. Cap is the main "grand central station" redside. And for crafting I know there's an Abandoned Lab close to St. Martinal BM, I use it often. So the the BM in St. Mart could be used by people who what peace and quiet and want to actually craft. Sharkhead BM is ... again just Shark. Trying to split things 50/50 again. Just a thought.... |
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I was talking about caving in to power suppression in the current WW/BM markets. I read the idea on a quiet room for the market in the suggestion forums and agree that would be a good comprimise.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Yes actually they should. All they have to do is add a "quiet room" like the AE buildings have. Then the players that want can choose to do their transactions there and the ignorant louts can go suck eggs in the regular section of the market.
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Personally I like the idea of having a seperate quiet room.While it doesn't affect my pc if people have their toggles/pets and other things running, it is annoying and it does slow down the market it seems.
It's typical of people to do such things I compare it to people who pull out in front of you in traffic, they only think of themselves and piss on you if it inconviences you.
Thats ok though nobody likes them, they will never do well in life, their spouse will cheat on them because they are losers, and they are probably goin to die a horrible death and go to hell. It's a small comfort to know such things are destined for rude people.
Attention Mr. Miller:
Count this post as another vote for/request for a studio B type area for the auction houses in Prae, Rogue and Paragon.
You can believe I'll do all my auction business there.
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I will just go ahead and admit why this doesn't work for me...I AM AN AIRHEAD! I would probably leave these areas, jump into a +4 mob and then say, "OMG, I forget to toggle up" LOL.|
Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
There is no powerset that takes longer than 30 sec (and that's a large guess. I bet it's faster) to turn on everything you want without pets, and pets don't take that much longer when you can target one pet to train them all.
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I am the OP and my only *true* complaint is how annoying it is to job to the area to use the market in Praetoria. Power suppression? If you must, but allow me to walk/run/jump faster to the booth.
Global Name: Denver Nugget
Playing since i3 on 8 servers
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I secretly suspect that is exactly why they choose not to allow a normal speed in the Auction House. Players are so jarred by the drop in speed that they are reminded that all powers are off and don't go running off into a spawn to die.
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Originally Posted by shaggy5
I will just go ahead and admit why this doesn't work for me...I AM AN AIRHEAD! I would probably leave these areas, jump into a +4 mob and then say, "OMG, I forget to toggle up" LOL.
I am the OP and my only *true* complaint is how annoying it is to job to the area to use the market in Praetoria. Power suppression? If you must, but allow me to walk/run/jump faster to the booth. |
Why is there this suppression in the Auction House in Praetoria? I can't think of a good reason why the devs did this. Sometimes I try to give understanding about something I don't like because the devs had a good reason, but I can't begin to think of how this makes anything better or more fun for anyone...
Global Name: Denver Nugget
Playing since i3 on 8 servers