Discussion: MMORPG.com interviews CoH producer Nate Birkholz
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Posted on: 2011-01-21 14:20 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Originally Posted by Acemace
Wow that's awesome.
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I'm missing this quote in the story linked....
The only thing I would say is the game STILL could benefit heavily from some main stream advertising. I saw a competitor's commercial on TV the other day and while it won't sway ME, it was pretty awe inspiring and could easily pull in folks that could be here.
"Orwellian dystopia"? I thought it was a utopia? 
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Because it's not in there.
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Originally Posted by PowerStream
I'm missing this quote in the story linked....
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Originally Posted by Acemace
Wow that's awesome.
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I find the comment about being surprised there aren't more Vigs/Rogues a bit odd. The reason for this is very simple - the system rewards staying at the extremes more than it does staying in the gray area. The ability to run on both sides does not balance out the ability to earn alignment merits from tips. On the average players will follow the rewards - no one should be surprised by that.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
Nice try.
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I'm not seeing an interview, all I see is a big advertisement for COH...
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Originally Posted by TheWeaver
I find the comment about being surprised there aren't more Vigs/Rogues a bit odd. The reason for this is very simple - the system rewards staying at the extremes more than it does staying in the gray area. The ability to run on both sides does not balance out the ability to earn alignment merits from tips. On the average players will follow the rewards - no one should be surprised by that.
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Right now, your choices are to stay with a pure alignment, and get more rewards, or go with a middle-ground alignment and... ... what? Have access to SOME more teaming opportunities?
You can't enter SG bases, so getting around is a pain. You can't use the other side's o-zone, so you can't start or join flashback teams (not even ones formed in bases, since, you know, can't enter those).. You can't run your own contacts on the other side, only radio/paper missions..
Honestly, being vigilante/rogue doesn't ADD that much, other than being able to get SOME of the other side's badges. and if you're after badges, you're probably going to go all the way so you can get them all.
If all you're interested in is teaming, you can generally get all the teaming you want staying on your side and using the relevant tools for getting people on your server.
So the question isn't "Why aren't people sticking with vigilante/rogue?" but "Why WOULD they?"
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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For me, simple. I could argue that my mercs/TA Mastermind, Profiteer, works both sides of the fence. She maintains true neutrality, and pulls in the cash and the jobs wherever she can. |
Originally Posted by Void_Huntress
So the question isn't "Why aren't people sticking with vigilante/rogue?" but "Why WOULD they?"
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Badges and merits, I guess? If you can do ALL the task/strike forces that's a lot of merits. If you go for all the short ones, can't you get more that way instead of doing the same short one repeatedly and getting diminishing returns?
Just a thought...
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I've got several I've put at Vigilante/Rogue for RP reasons. It makes me wonder if those alignments are more common on Virtue than on other servers.
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Originally Posted by Void_Huntress
So the question isn't "Why aren't people sticking with vigilante/rogue?" but "Why WOULD they?"
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Or you can run more than one of the tasks available to your side regularly. Plus there's the ITF (which is always easy to get going) and LGTF, which are cross-side to begin with.|
Originally Posted by Psyte
Badges and merits, I guess? If you can do ALL the task/strike forces that's a lot of merits. If you go for all the short ones, can't you get more that way instead of doing the same short one repeatedly and getting diminishing returns?
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Being able to do ALL of the tasks on BOTH sides doesn't significantly add to your options when you're looking at merit rate versus diminishing returns, unless you have an extremely high number of hours per day to dedicate to the game. I'm looking at this from a general case.
And D_R, you are not the general case.
Thematics is a valid one, and I DO have a vigilante myself because she's a grey area kind of character. But really, the system as it is now is HEAVILY weighted towards the 'pure' alignments, and doesn't give much to the middle ones.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Softcapping an Invuln is fantastic. Softcapping a Willpower is amazing. Softcapping SR is kissing your sister.
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Point taken. Of course, I do recall way back when the question was "who'd want to be a hero/villain?" Of course, that was before anyone knew about Alignment Merits and Powers.
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Originally Posted by Acemace
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Originally Posted by Acemace
Wow that's awesome.
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'Twas a rather disappointing read after that... haha!
Now I know...
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Originally Posted by Acemace
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Giving A merits as a trade for a few teaming opportunities is like giving people double inf for not using APPs. A nonsensical apples to oranges concept.
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Originally Posted by TheWeaver
I find the comment about being surprised there aren't more Vigs/Rogues a bit odd. The reason for this is very simple - the system rewards staying at the extremes more than it does staying in the gray area. The ability to run on both sides does not balance out the ability to earn alignment merits from tips. On the average players will follow the rewards - no one should be surprised by that.
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A game is not supposed to be some kind of... place where people enjoy themselves!
You know, maybe some people don't really use A-merits. Maybe not everything needs to be reward driven.
Or I might just be too stricken with altitis to really grind out enough A-merits to get something worthwhile <.<
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It isn't like your whole account has to make one choice or anther. You could choose to have a character set aside who just farms merits and then all your alts could be whatever alignment you choose. Choose a powerset that can kill the bosses and click the glowies at a good speed. Level lock that toon in the low 30s, that way when you roll your spare Amerits you'll roll in a valuable range.|
Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina
Giving A merits as a trade for a few teaming opportunities is like giving people double inf for not using APPs. A nonsensical apples to oranges concept.
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Nobody has to be a slave to loot, you can choose to farm that loot in a timely manner that doesn't effect the game play of every character you have.
And a nice fat add for a new Super hero MMO in the middle of the interview.... good work MMORPG!
" The superhero genre is remarkably broad. It incorporates science fiction, horror, fantasy, history, military, action, adventure… Even a little romance and a healthy dose of sex. We’ve told stories about alien invasions, secret societies, unrequited love, magical talismans, Orwellian dystopias, and scientific hubris. "
yep, just like seeing that affirmed by the devs. this is a broad concept hero game, not a slave to the 4 color tights and capes theme. Can we all get along now?
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
yep, just like seeing that affirmed by the devs. this is a broad concept hero game, not a slave to the 4 color tights and capes theme. Can we all get along now?
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Our producer Nate "Second Measure" Birkholz fielded a few questions from MMORPG.com, discussing the culture around superheroes and encorporating that into a massively multiplayer game.
Visit MMORPG.com to read the interview, "Checking In With City of Heroes."