Now That Ma has gotten it's buff

Bah, give me /Ice or /Nin rather than /Energy.

Second the /nin. Looks like an amazing set, but just not a fan of stalkers.

Ice because spines/ice would rock

I think theres another thread on the proliferation of nin. t'would be very nice, but i think it was agreed it probably wouldn't happen due to it being tailored to stalkers. But ya never know, a few tweaks to the set here and there...

Tweaks? No real tweaks needed, except maybe to turn hide into a Cloak of Darkness clone, then move it up a few levels and the other stuff down.

I was thinking of caltrops, since its already in the epic pools. And perhaps smoke flash, as apart from stalkers no other archetype has a placate power from their sets i.e. theres no precedent for it, but i don't see why they wouldn't keep that one apart from that.

*Herds up room, smokeflash, teamwipe.*

"U n00bs suk!"

Smells like hibernate ^^

Except hibernate doesn't remove taunt. A good Ice tanker is still getting attacked, despite hibernate.

A ninjitsu tank (with smoke flash) would quite literally be an anti-tank.

Hehe. You guys can have EM/EA... We're done with it now.

Signed.

OTOH, maybe if they gave /EA to scraps, they'd have to actually make it a viable set and port the fixes to Brutes. In which case, I still support this thread.

Dear Lord, why would you want to deliberately take Energy Aura? To be the squishiest scrapper around?

I see Broadsword for brutes before Martial Arts.

That said, I could see a MA brutes working.

Really? How is the set broken? Sure, it has less DDR than other defense sets but it has a few tools to make up for it. And on a Scrapper, the stealth component of Energy Cloak would not hinder its effectiveness. Slotted with just Commons, the +3% Def and Tough/Weave, you're looking at being a luck away from soft-cap and having a bit of resists to both exotics and S/L. You have a heal/end recovery power.

You have a set that would play decently well when not IO'd on a Scrapper, probably similar performance to /Dark or /Shield when not IO'd. With IOs, however, you can definitely have a solid set. I'd maybe agree it could use a bit more Resist in its auto powers, but it is not as bad as people on the forums here seem to think it is.

Also, /Ninjitsu would step on SRs toes a lot more than /EA would. ANOTHER positional set, but one with a self-heal and other useful things? I'd rather Scrappers get a Typed Def set. /Ice or /EA would be great but I feel like /EA fits the Scrapper AT a bit better. Energy Melee would be a better fit for Scrappers as well.

Anyway, that's my piece.

Oh, and Martial Arts for Brute = Yes!

They ALL float down here. When you're down here with us, you'll float too!

@Starflier

It's not like Shield Defense already stomped SR's toes flat..

SR advantage: Higher def debuff resistance, higher base Def, recharge.

Shield Defense advantage: Def isolated to 3 skills as opposed to 6, more resistances at full health, more health, +attack, Shield charge, buffs others, buffed by others..

Scrapper Ninja could be done. Just make it so they can't take caltrops epic if they already have ninja trops (no SOA Crab is allowed both venom nades so this must be possible) Make hide a clone of Dark armor's stealth Plus + perception power. Smoke nade could be a short term invisi/phase keeping the animation. Or a telleport self short range... keeping the smoke burst at the spot you just left. Temporarily break agro. I think it already does that with the placate as is... wouldnt this in theory be handy for a scrapper who has out aggroed his tank/brute buddy?

Anyway... as for Ice. Untill Ice armor gets a neater look as an option in the costume windows they can keep it on one class... For icey combat itself, I'd like to see the
CoV Beta-Brute version of Ice Melee (which was different then the Tanker one) taken out of mothballs and handed to Scrappers and Brutes. wouldn't mind seeing a stalker version... but that would have to be "Made". There's a perfectly good powerset sitting on hold that could be applied to two classes probably as is. (considering fury building/keeping is different now then it was then. If it made it to CoV Beta it exists somewhere in the archives as code and it's a bloody shame it's not seeing practical use.

Cheers all!

PS: Also please find out what happend to the mummy wrap and the mossy (perfectly good as hairy too) shoulders that were in CoV Beta please. What the Sam hill happend to them? They didn't make the cut yet multiple versions of spikes comming out of our eyeballs, foreheads and shoulders did?!?!?!?!?! wth (looks bemused and shrugs)

I also want an Ma/Stone brute, that would just be pure fun.