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Originally Posted by brophog02
If you need something, you need someone besides me.
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I'm very encouraged that so far it seems like only a few people are exhibiting this behavior, but there are a lot of people swearing that they would never act like that. The good guys seem to be winning, at least on the forums. 
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
Good luck on those hold-less LGTF runs, then.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
You know, it's not that hard. I know I've done it.
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Wait, what part of Lady Grey supposedly absolutely requires a hold? Seriously asking. I've run it plenty of times, and I'm in the dark on this.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
You know, it's not that hard. I know I've done it.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
You know, it's not that hard. I know I've done it.
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Originally Posted by Patteroast
Wait, what part of Lady Grey supposedly absolutely requires a hold? Seriously asking. I've run it plenty of times, and I'm in the dark on this.
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Originally Posted by Valerika
The good guys seem to be winning, at least on the forums.
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
Done it without holds, or done it without a control-type AT being responsible for the holds? That's a rather large difference.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
I did it back on hard mode when you needed 50 mag of hold with nothing but my tanker's app hold on the team. For a successful master of run, no less.
This game is balanced around SOs. Any rag tag team can accomplish anything, apart from maybe the new incarnate stuff. There is little that cannot be overcome with the right strategy and inspirations. Your intolerance haas no place here. We play for fun. |
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
Mini-Hami, green mitos. It's not an absolute, 100% hard requirement, but it's WAY more trouble than it's worth.
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All my toons are on Freedom. About a week ago, I got an invite to run the Tin Mage with my level 50 fire/fire and the team lead sent me a tell which went something like this:
TEAM LEAD: "Hey do you have an Alpha Slot?"
ME: "ahh yes"
(no reply)......
ME AGAIN: "why do you ask?"
TEAM LEAD: "for the Tin Mage, want in?"
ME: "sure".
(bam! got invite)
Now, unknown to me (my fault) as I have not been reading up on when you get your Alpha Slot, if you are not slotted with a boost in your Alpha Slot and run either the Apex or Tin Mage, you will be incredibly gimped. I of course did not know this until I got on the team and found out the hard way. Needless to say, we pulled through okay and finished fine. Then the next day I got an invite for the Apex and I advised the team lead that I did not have a boost and they invited me anyways but said I will get slaughtered many times. I did but stayed on after the mish was complete to pick up some shards with my other teammates. I told my teammates that I just wanted to get shards on that TF but it was brutal without that boost. I have now been working on getting my level 50's all slotted with their boosts in the Alpha Slots which is a journey on to its self especially when running solo a lot. 
Someone like that is not someone I would want to team with anyway. Consider yourself lucky.
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
Done it without holds, or done it without a control-type AT being responsible for the holds? That's a rather large difference.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
I did it back on hard mode when you needed 50 mag of hold with nothing but my tanker's app hold on the team. For a successful master of run, no less.
This game is balanced around SOs. Any rag tag team can accomplish anything, apart from maybe the new incarnate stuff. There is little that cannot be overcome with the right strategy and inspirations. Your intolerance haas no place here. We play for fun. |
If it's for Apex or Tin, maybe they're just not making it clear. Being removed from the team for lacking Alphas in those two TFs is for your safety, unless if you're purely support; you're an empty spot. But otherwise, this shouldn't be happening in anything else since those are the only two that actually really require your alpha to be filled.
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Originally Posted by Patteroast
Wait, what part of Lady Grey supposedly absolutely requires a hold? Seriously asking. I've run it plenty of times, and I'm in the dark on this.
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
Wow, random hate dump. I think you're projecting attitudes onto me that aren't actually there. I'm not being 'intolerant' of anything, nor am I being anti-fun.
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
If making things harder on the people involved is what's fun for you, that's fine, but being so rabidly "absolutely anything goes" that you can't deal with a single spot being saved for a role? Seems a hell of a lot more intolerant than the flip side.
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Originally Posted by brophog02
If you need something, you need someone besides me.
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
Good luck on those hold-less LGTF runs, then.
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
Done it without holds, or done it without a control-type AT being responsible for the holds? That's a rather large difference.
Either way, the point stands- there IS stuff in the game where tossing together random players without any planning *can* result in an impossible task. Mini-Hami, green mitos. It's not an absolute, 100% hard requirement, but it's WAY more trouble than it's worth. |
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
I'm not being 'intolerant' of anything, nor am I being anti-fun. It being POSSIBLE to do without holds doesn't change that it's ridiculously easier to do it with them- nor does it change that *every single pug*
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I was on a fire/dark corruptor, someone asked me whether I was a healer. I said that I was more focused on burning people to a crisp, they wrote back "oh, ty, but i need a healer".
No you bloody don't, not in the mid-teens for levels. Of the ways in which my fire/dark corruptor contributes to teams, "healing" is a distant third or fourth.
I tell every team I join with my fire/dark ruptor, "you want to be healed, better hump Fluffy's leg, 'cause I got better things to do." Hasn't let me down yet.
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Originally Posted by Jawbreaker
And this is why, time permitting, I ALWAYS jump on a Dechs advertised team!
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As to reserving a specific slot: I've never found the need. Maybe it really does matter on some TFs, but I have yet to encounter anything where it mattered (but then, no 50s yet). Thing is... There really is a big marginal difference between "we'll take anything" and "we'll take 7 anything and one absolutely has to be X". The latter is vulnerable to that character being too influential, or throwing weight around, or halting progress by not wanting to play anymore. I think it's more rewarding to just not do that.
Half the fun in this game, for me, is doing things that maybe aren't supposed to work.
I too haven't encountered that either. Hell, even when I form my own PuG Apex/Tin Mage TFs, I don't mention the Alpha slot and have only had one person join without it. He even pointed it out to me by asking if he needed the alpha slot, and I told him yes and a boost. His response? "Oh ok, didn't know. Let me bring my other char". Twice I've been on Apex TFs where there was one person without a boost. The first time, it was a Mastermind, so it was no big deal, their pets still spawn at 50 and their secondary is buff/debuff. The other time though, it was a Tanker. Both times we succeeded.
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Originally Posted by seebs
As to reserving a specific slot: I've never found the need. Maybe it really does matter on some TFs, but I have yet to encounter anything where it mattered (but then, no 50s yet).
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