Any word on free transfers?

Actually, there is neither a population problem, nor too many servers.
I guess you are just too easily amazed.

I can't wait to see his doom and gloom posts when the devs merge the NA and EU server lists and everyone gets access to 15 servers instead of the 11/4 they have now.

Cambios: CoX has a serious population problem on these new servers. No one speaks English.
Random Forum Member: Those are the German and French Servers.
Cambios: But Everyone is rude and I can't understand what they are saying.
Random Forum Member: Oh! Sorry. Freedom has the rude players that can't speak English. That server has always been like that.

The bold is a load of exaggerated horse manure.

The italic suggest your memory is faulty.

1) Uh. No. Nice try though.

2) That's nice. But on Triumph at least we have a global channel that has been in use for 4+ years for organizing server activities. Everyone knows about it. Everyone also knows that by about midnight, there aren't enough people on the server to get much of anything going, and they are sad about it. That's not good population.

3) That doesn't explain there being NOBODY for hours anywhere.

4) Uh huh.

5) See above.

Look, it doesn't do anyone - especially not NCSoft/Paragon - any good to try and cloud the issue. Most servers are dead with the exception of a few hours in prime time. If you miss those, forget about doing a TF. That's not a good thing for business.

If you want to make up bogus excuses, that's fine, but that doesn't help CoX keep customers happy, and thereby retain them.

I don't like server merges any more than the next guy, so I'm not saying that has to happen. I'd love to hear more about that globalization stuff they talked about years ago.

Heck, what if zones like Fort Trident could be global staging areas for TFs so at least you could get groups for that? Just a suggestion.

But without something like that, you'd got 2/3rds or 3/4s of the servers that are very low population. Other than Freedom and Virtue, its pretty rough. That's not good for CoX. Free transfers either to those servers or away from them is a way to let players remedy the problem themselves.

Exactly my point.

Keeping people subscribing because they are able to find players at all hours of the day/night to run TFs seems like it is worth a lot more money than whatever they make off paid server transfers.

Are you on Triumph Watch? If you, you know what I mean about TFs and such coming to a screeching halt late night, morning, and even early afternoon. We get a few hours prime time and that's all.

Don't get me wrong, I love Triumph. I don't really want to leave it at all. I'd much prefer they figure out a way for people to join TFs globally. But in lieu of that, some free server transfers would really help the problem. Heck, even if it was something like only allowing level 50 transfers ON to Triumph.

That's not the case for Triumph. I use the server's main chat channel, and not only is there nothing going on later in the night, but the few people on the channel bemoan the fact and have sadly accepted it.


I recruited two RL friends to play CoH recently (one a renewal after over 4 years away, the other brand new to the game). My wife and I made new alts to play through Praetoria with them. Over a few days, we played at all different hours - afternoon, prime time, late night. In the entire 1->20 process, we say a *grand total* of 2 people in any of the common areas. And the two people we saw did not respond at all to any efforts at communication. Since we had a team and they did not (the two people were solo both times) we offered them a spot on our team as well, and got no response.

This is not doom and gloom. I'm not saying the game is dying. It would appear that CoH has a pretty stable, base line population that keeps the staff supported and NCSoft happy with the income.

But distributed over 11 servers, with no server clustering for TFs or anything, it can be really rough on some of the low population servers. That's all I'm saying here.

Heya Cat. Long time no chat! How's ya been.

Sorry, but its neither an exaggeration nor a faulty memory (I am old, but not that old). Its just what I am seeing on Triumph, and what the established folks here have confirmed.

A ton of members of my old SG coalition have moved a goodly portion of their characters to virtue as a result.

I can't speak for anyone else. But if someone I don't know sends me a /tell asking if I want a team, I'm unlikely to reply. If I *do* reply, it'll be to ask how they found my character when I've been in a mission for half an hour and I *thought* all my characters were hidden from searches. Simply put, if I actually *want* to join a group, I'll have sought one out or formed one myself. I've had enough unpleasant experiences in general that I'm really not interested in joining a group with someone that I don't already know.

I also don't use global channels, because frankly most of the time it's exactly like listening to Broadcast in Atlas - there might be a few people in a span of hours actually trying to do something useful or interesting, and everyone else is just competing for a spot in my /Ignore list.

I play on Triumph too, but my connection is via a tethered cell phone... so the fact it's not as crowded as Freedom or Virtue works for me. YMMV.

No it wasn't. All I had to do was right click on your forum name and choose the option to look at your previous post history.



It didn't require any skill, took less than 5 seconds, and everyone can use it.

Yes a typical response that gets made by immature people who can't deal with having their own posts used against them. You can't attack the message so you impugn the messengers motives.

And age in real life doesn't matter. There are older people who are just as likely to respond in this fashion as younger people because some older people can't stand losing an argument to what they percieve as some young whippersnapper.


Being gone for two years it's obvious why you aren't familiar with all the new tools and features that have been added to the game so we as players can enjoy a quiet peaceful gaming experience.

There are two very obvious reasons why you have encountered people that don't respond to you while in Praetoria.

1. All new players on Trial Accounts have to make their first character in Praetoria, but being on Trial Accounts they have restrictions on their communications.

Trial Accounts may not join global channels Trial Accounts can only speak in
/local
/hc (the Help channel)
/team
Trial Accounts cannot invite players to team
Trial Accounts may not join SuperGroups.


2. Players on active accounts make use of both the /Hide command and the Search flags to block unwanted invites and annoying random communications when they want to be left alone or just talk to their friends in the SG's and Global channels.

/hide

Brings up a window that asks the user what they would like to hide from.




Hide Options

1. Hide and block all Invite Options
2. Hide from Tells (Private Messages)
3. Hide from Global Chat Channels
4. Hide from Global Friends
5. Hide from Server Friends
6. Hide from Supergroup
7. Hide from Searches

"Everyone" does? You've made it a personal mission to tell each and every character on that server about this channel (unnamed in this post?)

Funny. I don't recall getting any sort of message from you on it. Or anyone else.

Maybe "Everybody on the Triumph section of the boards knows about it." I could possibly believe that. But "Everybody?" No.

And "Knows about" does nto mean "Uses." I'm on every server. If I put up all my SG channels and all these "Everyone knows" channels, I couldn't fit them all.

Try exiting your SG base.
And this is an unmitigated load of horse manure. I typically *play* on those "low pop" servers, with the occasional foray to Virtue (cannot STAND Freedom, but even show up there on rare occasion.) I also, outside of weekends, don't tend to play in "prime time," working 'til midnight, or playing before work in the early, early afternoon. And yet... no problem finding teams, and i regularly get tells asking for them (which, at 2 AM, I'll tend to decline unless I'll actually be awake for a while.)

No, it's not name recognition. I haven't had a "Hey, aren't you" tell on one of my MBs for... eh, nearly a year. And I have over 200 alts, and two accounts. (That aside from how small the forum population is compared to the rest of the game.) And even within the forum population - I've gone unrecognized on test until I mentioned my main, I teamed with Doctor Vivian not too long ago and I'd bet she has no idea (still) about that... the only answer is that "teaming is not difficult, even on "dead" servers and off prime time, unless you're Cambios."

See my Guides and Tutorials

Bill, he hasn't even gone down to the Triumph section and asked what the popular Global channels are these days. A simple post saying something like, "Hey I'm back after 2 years and I'm looking for some global channels to meet people." would have gotten him several channels to try out.

This is OBVIOUSLY BS. Are you claiming you can be everywhere at once? If not, how can say that there is no one "anywhere"?


Damn straight it doesn't. So why don't you stop it?

Well, it is one of the slower servers.
Just did a quick search of the three sections of Triumph and got these results for unhidden totals:
Blue: 50 not hiding from searches.
Red: 50 not hiding from searches.
Gold: 33 not hiding from searches.

On the other hand, if that's not populous enough for someone they can always create an alt on a more crowded server. When i actually focus on a new alt it takes maybe a month to get them to 50 and mostly kitted out. Of course if an alt on a different server has something i think would be more useful on the new alt i just email it to myself. Same thing with starting funds since i'm lazy. After that it's just a matter of placing bids for stuff i want and selling stuff i don't until i get the current alt set up. The half a billion or so left over by the time i'm done getting to 50 and slotting generally gets reinvested in the market or used to get goodies for other alts. Usually both.

No one is denying that Triumph is one of the lower pop servers but it is far from being desolate like someone is claiming.

Didn't they change the way the search work a while back, so the list is still truncates to 50 but it no longer shows the total found? If you want a reasonably accurate count you need to keep filtering by level or AT until you can get the results down below 50.

Quite true. i tend to get more tells asking if i'm looking for a team on the lower population servers. Of course i also tend to play in the PM for the US and don't normally use /hide.

Triumph is definitely not desolate, but playing in the weekday morning by US time on US servers tends to result in fewer teammates being available even on the most populous servers. The average player has school or a job to go to at that time.

It does still truncate at 50 and no longer display the total, but you can just search again to get the next batch of fifty people and so on until you get to less than 50 people, filtering unneeded. (So you can search three times and get 50+50+15 for 115 people on the server and see everyone eventually. Although filtering works as well.)

I just want to point out that the search mechanism has changed and will always only show you a maximum of 50 at a time (and no longer say the list is truncated). You simply have to click Search again to get the next 50, then again for the next 50, etc until you get a result less than 50. Then it will start over. If you add all those up, you'll have the real number of unhidden matches.

I don't play on Triumph, but I made some toons there just now for the sake of seeing what the actual numbers look like:
Blue: 281 not hiding from searches.
Red: 114 not hiding from searches.
Gold: 35 not hiding from searches.

To compare to Freedom:
Blue: 772 not hiding from searches.
Red: 374 not hiding from searches.
Gold: 117 not hiding from searches.

Like Forbin said though, nobody was disputing it's a lower population.

Then again, it looks like Freedom is really only 3 times higher than what Triumph has right now, so it can't be all that bad on the lower Population servers. It's not as much of a difference as people make it seem. People are probably just not trying hard enough. lol

D'oh! Forgot about that.

But yeah, even on the lower population servers i don't have issues finding teams if i want them. Also, leveling up alts on new servers is easy, especially if it's one of the more populous.

I am on TW 2.0 and 2.1 (and was on the original back years ago). I've also been a part of HUB for years (as a member of its founding SG). I've even been an officer from time to time.

They are all great resources. My wife and I were able to get on during prime time last night and got to run our first ITF with some HUBbers (it was a blast). Prime time is ok. Its off prime time that Triumph just slows to a crawl.

I'm not saying I have the answers, and I'm not saying free server transfers are the answer. I just wish there was some open discussion about this issue taking place with the devs. If they acknowledged it, that would be a good first step. Then perhaps there's be a groundswell for some of this "globalization" they talked about years ago.

Hypocrisy much? You just obsessed over posts I made 3+ years ago instead of discussing the issue here. LOL.

Aside from that, its funny to watch your mental gymnastics that try to completely whitewash a serious issue. But hey, if you only want what is bad for the game, that's on you bro.