Any word on free transfers?


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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
And this is an unmitigated load of horse manure.

I typically *play* on those "low pop" servers

I also, outside of weekends, don't tend to play in "prime time,"

No, it's not name recognition.
Look. Either you are lying, or your experience is completely different than the entire server channel for Triumph.

I'm just sayin'.


 

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Bill, he hasn't even gone down to the Triumph section and asked what the popular Global channels are these days. A simple post saying something like, "Hey I'm back after 2 years and I'm looking for some global channels to meet people." would have gotten him several channels to try out.
Because I already know what they are, as Cat just confirmed.

But hey, its easier to attack the person rather than address the elephant in the room (serious population problems on the low pop servers off prime), right? It also makes you look cool with the in crowd on the forums, eh? Win-win!


 

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No one is denying that Triumph is one of the lower pop servers but it is far from being desolate like someone is claiming.
If only that were the case.

How about you move a level 50 over to Triumph and start some TFs at 3 or 4am in the morning. Then tell me its not desolate.

My global name is @Cambios, so send me an invite.


 

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I am on TW 2.0 and 2.1 (and was on the original back years ago). I've also been a part of HUB for years (as a member of its founding SG). I've even been an officer from time to time.

They are all great resources. My wife and I were able to get on during prime time last night and got to run our first ITF with some HUBbers (it was a blast). Prime time is ok. Its off prime time that Triumph just slows to a crawl.

I'm not saying I have the answers, and I'm not saying free server transfers are the answer. I just wish there was some open discussion about this issue taking place with the devs. If they acknowledged it, that would be a good first step. Then perhaps there's be a groundswell for some of this "globalization" they talked about years ago.
The problem is, that your experience is certainly not universal. The last time I was on at 9am on a weekday (it does happen occasionally), I got asked if I wanted in on a TF.

The core four folks knew each other, then a couple picked up from TW then a couple from people those TW people knew.

Having just come back, it will take a little time for you to regain friends on a similar schedule. Once you have that core of a team for an event, its much easier to recruit to the minimum needed to start.

Hami raid during the middle of the day is likely beyond Triumph off peak, as I would expect the end-game multi-team 'raids' promised for I20 (I'm assuming 24 people like the CoP).

A better search and recruitment functionality is helpful. For example one of the changes when you were gone, was the 'send tell to team leader' option that pops up when you click on someones name.

Little things like that can go a long way.



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If only that were the case.

How about you move a level 50 over to Triumph and start some TFs at 3 or 4am in the morning. Then tell me its not desolate.

My global name is @Cambios, so send me an invite.
that's 3am Pacific IIRC ? (I seem to recall you are West Coast)



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The problem is, that your experience is certainly not universal. The last time I was on at 9am on a weekday (it does happen occasionally), I got asked if I wanted in on a TF.
I'd love for that to be true. I *hope* that's true.

But I can't help but observe that almost every night for the past 2 weeks, this issue came up on TW 2.0 and it was universally agreed (and bemoaned) that Triumph has a serious pop. problem and TFs are nearly impossible to get going off-prime time.

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A better search and recruitment functionality is helpful. For example one of the changes when you were gone, was the 'send tell to team leader' option that pops up when you click on someones name.

Little things like that can go a long way.
I'm sure that would help. But you also need enough people for there to be critical mass as far as interest at a given time. I mean there are times I'm on late night but because of work there's no way I could commit to a TF.

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that's 3am Pacific IIRC ? (I seem to recall you are West Coast)
East coast. I just play really (and work) really late.

During the week, my personal prime time is about 1am to 4am. But that's not set in stone because I'm often working also. But if I'm on and you're starting a TF, give me a yell.

Thanks,


 

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Look. Either you are lying, or your experience is completely different than the entire server channel for Triumph.

I'm just sayin'.
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Most servers are dead with the exception of a few hours in prime time.
Make up your mind. Do you want to speak specifically about Triumph, or everything but Freedumb and Virtue? Do you play anywhere BUT Triumph? If not, drop the "Most servers" bit, because your experience *is not true* for me when I'm server hopping at off hours.

And again, it's not "the entire server channel," it's "one of the popular channels." That doesn't' mean everyone knows about it, or that all of those that know about it use it. As I said, I play on *every* server, I do not have the "server channels" set up - anyone trying to recruit via there is not going to see/hear from me, and like it or not, that will be the case for most people.
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That doesn't explain there being NOBODY for hours anywhere.
If there's "nobody" on and it's as desolate as you say, who's in the channel complaining? :P


 

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It does still truncate at 50 and no longer display the total, but you can just search again to get the next batch of fifty people and so on until you get to less than 50 people, filtering unneeded.
Ooh, awesomesauce! I did not know that, thank you.


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Hypocrisy much?
Hypocrisy - N. - The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess;

No hypocrisy done on my part. Now if I had been arguing that I thought merging the servers was a good idea before you did the and then did a complete 180 instead of agreeing with you, that would have been hypocrisy.

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You just obsessed over posts I made 3+ years ago instead of discussing the issue here. LOL.
No obsession either.

1. As was already shown it takes less than 5 seconds to pull up your post history. Spending 5 seconds to do something isn't remotely obsessive.

2. You just returned to the game a week ago

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I just resubscribed a week ago after 3 years away from the game.
so any search done on your name is going to bring up old posts. If you were a prolific poster like Memphis Bill you might have an argument.

3. I haven't been following you to different threads to continue this discussion. The only exchange of posts on this subject has been within the confines of this thread.

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Aside from that, its funny to watch your mental gymnastics that try to completely whitewash a serious issue.
You're the only gymnast in this thread, and we're the ones being entertained.

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But hey, if you only want what is bad for the game, that's on you bro.
Merging servers is widely acknowledged by the MMO industry as a bad idea that's only done as a desperate measure, and there's a whole slew of reasons why it would be particularly devastating for this game. Memphis Bill has a cut and paste somewhere that he breaks out in the suggestion forums explaining all those reasons.

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Because I already know what they are, as Cat just confirmed.
No he didn't. The first thing he said was that you are wrong.

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The bold is a load of exaggerated horse manure. The italic suggest your memory is faulty.
Then he named three channels he personally is a member of that he uses to get teams on Triumph.

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Last couple of weekends I kicked off a TF at midnight Eastern, after running one earlier as well.

In addition to TW 2.0 - which I keep in a operate tab these days and only look at if I am recruiting, there are several multi-SG private channels (Grand Coalition, the Hub and I know there are other).

For folks in those channels, it seems that those are their primary way of getting teams and groups going.
Nowhere does he say that you are a member of those three channels.

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How about you move a level 50 over to Triumph and start some TFs at 3 or 4am in the morning. Then tell me its not desolate.
I have 7 characters on Triumph and actively use my /hide feature to keep the random invites to a minimum, and last I checked I don't need a 50 if I want to run a TF.


 

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Aside from that, its funny to watch your mental gymnastics that try to completely whitewash a serious issue. But hey, if you only want what is bad for the game, that's on you bro.
What a lot of us are trying to say is that it's only a serious issue in your mind. The game population is higher now than it has been in a while. Also, many people PREFER quiet servers. If they start merging to make every server like Freedom, they do a great disservice to a portion of their customer base.


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They don't have to merge servers but tossing us free server transfers every once in a while would make a lot of people happy

Same goes for DXP weekend.


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Forbin: LOL. You are a piece of work man. You didn't read a thing I wrote, and to the extent you skimmed, you grossly misunderstood. But hey, don't let the facts slow ya down, bro!

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I'm not even advocating server merging per se. But you'd have to slow down and read what you are replying to in order to know that.

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What a lot of us are trying to say is that it's only a serious issue in your mind. The game population is higher now than it has been in a while. Also, many people PREFER quiet servers. If they start merging to make every server like Freedom, they do a great disservice to a portion of their customer base.
That's great that population is better than it has been in a while. I imagine this is partially the same factors that lured me to resubscribe, convince my wife to resub, and then recruit 2 friends. So yeah, that's encouraging.

But I don't think you fully understand how hard it is on a low pop server like Triumph.

But the thing is, it only really matters for TFs, and TFs matter more than ever with the great incarnate system. This means they have a whole lot of different solutions available to them. Server clustering, global TF teams, etc.

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They don't have to merge servers but tossing us free server transfers every once in a while would make a lot of people happy

Same goes for DXP weekend.
Agreed.


 

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I've actually seen people moving off of the high population servers. I know I moved a couple of my character off of Freedom during the last two rounds. Protector is my home server and it's always been claimed (by others) that it's a low population server, but you can easily get a TF going at any hour of the day/night.

I don't use the transfers much, but it'd be nice if they made the free transfers an annual event.


 

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Forbin: LOL. You are a piece of work man.
Glad to see you find the responses to you as amusing as we find your original posts. That's a healthy attitude to have. If you can maintain it while you are here you'll find that the people you were disagreeing with on one subject can turn around and be defending your point of view on a completely different topic.


 

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Glad to see you find the responses to you as amusing as we find your original posts. That's a healthy attitude to have. If you can maintain it while you are here you'll find that the people you were disagreeing with on one subject can turn around and be defending your point of view on a completely different topic.
=)

Well, that's about the most a guy could hope for, right?

Take care,


 

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Mmm....

I can see where all servers could possibly have "empty like" periods of times in which teaming is difficult to achieve, and some days are harder than others such as Mondays and Wednesdays for some unknown reason. The times I find more difficult to team with is early in the morning but as the day progresses the server population usually increases.

A particular important thing you must do to overcome the "desolate" feel you may be experiencing is the joining of server wide chat channels, such as BMT of Champions or Champions United at the Champions server for instance. I know each server has such over-arching chat channels.

Once you join some of these channels, you will be surprised of how much company you do have even during the early hours of the morning, and that in fact the servers are not as desolate as you may think they are.

Another very important method to find steady company is joining a large SG/VG that is very active, but more importantly with lots of Coalition friends! More so than the SG/VG membership for grouping, is the coalition grouping opportunities which can easily rival or out match the customary channel wide chat groups.

I find in the early hours in the morning, when teaming can be a bit challenging to be an excellent time to catch up with logistics, that is craft IOs, do tips, move influence around, work on base, play the market, document my alt's status for badges, abilities, etc.

I hope these suggestions helps you with your gaming experience

Stormy


 

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I've looked at all these complaints and I've played Triumph both Hero and villain. And villain sucks there. But not nearly as bad as the Guardian server! Holy mother it's so dead there. I've made three villains and one hero there. Hero is a Emp healer and still can't find any one past his his twenty's and frankly I could care less any more (he's boring). My villains I enjoy but be damned if I can group at east twice a month with any of them! Brute, Coruptor and a Veat. The Veat is 30 and the other two are stuck at at 27 and 28. Im tired of solo play. If I turn up the lvl restrictions I tend to get debt more often then playing at "even" lvls and just being a slow grind.

Now, I don't need free transfers handed out. What I would like is the idea for Vet rewards: Every two years you get (1) transfer token per server you have a char on. Of course this might even be doable at every year actually.

And I read there where free transfers given out. But I've been off for over two years and do you keep your transfers like respecs or loose them because I'd sure like to move off of guardian. I looked for the server channel for guardian and I can't seem to get a invite for it let alone find any one who will talk about it on the server?!


 

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I've looked at all these complaints and I've played Triumph both Hero and villain. And villain sucks there. But not nearly as bad as the Guardian server! Holy mother it's so dead there. I've made three villains and one hero there. Hero is a Emp healer and still can't find any one past his his twenty's and frankly I could care less any more (he's boring). My villains I enjoy but be damned if I can group at east twice a month with any of them! Brute, Coruptor and a Veat. The Veat is 30 and the other two are stuck at at 27 and 28. Im tired of solo play. If I turn up the lvl restrictions I tend to get debt more often then playing at "even" lvls and just being a slow grind.

Now, I don't need free transfers handed out. What I would like is the idea for Vet rewards: Every two years you get (1) transfer token per server you have a char on. Of course this might even be doable at every year actually.

And I read there where free transfers given out. But I've been off for over two years and do you keep your transfers like respecs or loose them because I'd sure like to move off of guardian. I looked for the server channel for guardian and I can't seem to get a invite for it let alone find any one who will talk about it on the server?!
I'm sorry to hear you could have used a couple of transfers but missed out on when they were given. It always sucks when things like that happen. I and others agree with the Vet Reward idea, and we said as much in other threads on this topic.

I hope the devs take it under consideration.


 

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It sucks that even if they make it a Vet reward now that I still will have a long way to get that reward since I was inactive for so long. Where almost to our 80's in rewards and I'm only at 33! I can't guarantee I'll care that far into the future about CoX again. I assure you when "Gears of War III" and "Diablo III" drop I aint gonna be here!