Fantastic Four to die!

What does Uncle Ben have to do with mutants? Also, is Mar-Vel back from the dead, or just fighting as the dead, which doesn't count (he teamed up with the Silver Surfer once when he was stuck in the netherworld). As long as he is dead and not in a living corporal form, it still counts as being dead.




EDIT: Just read wikipedia.





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Or the balls to stick to a possibly game-changing publicity stunt like this. Shake things up and then keep it that way. There aren't enough hardcore fans of the Fantastic Four to cater to revert back to the "iconic" lineup in stereotypical American comic book fashion anyway.

'Sides, the only time anyone else cares about the FF is when they have a major storyline with Doom, or some major reboot like this happens.

All dead characters that have "returned" in Chaos War are still dead according to interviews I read before CW started. So yes they are back since Death has apparently fled until the war is over. The main question is: will any of them STAY after Death is restored?

I've stated on some other Marvel boards in the past that the only way to really overcome Mar-Vell's death since his death is really the only non violent death in the MU is either have a massive cosmic reboot of the MU, or else a messianic style return.

The encounter with the Silver Surfer back in Surfer's old series had enough ambiguity to it to imply that Surfer was hallucinating, but why hallucinate Mar-Vell as part of it? Also Surfer told Marv that he wished he knew him in his lifetime and departed. Marv then said "Perhaps in another", so that makes me think it was indeed a true encounter.

They've tried to replace Mar-Vell and failed. Either bring him back or get serious about replacing him.

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Yeah I hear that. Some of the tie in issues to the big crossovers are so useless. Luckily for Blackest night you only needed Blackest Night 1-8 and the GL and GLC books. The rest were superfluous.

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*coughMarvelmancough*

From what I've read they are reprinting the Marvelman stories, but I don't think he's been brought into the main MU yet.

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And only certain ones at that. The isues that folks really, really want may never see reprint due to all the legal issues surrounding the books.

Really? I thought Marvel got all the rights to everything for the character and that it was a done deal?

Ah well, more reason to bring Mar-Vell back. I respect Jim Starlin and the Death of Captain Marvel story, but Marvel pretty much wrote themselves into a corner with how Mar-Vell was killed off. Now writers and editors are loathe to bring him back due to how he perished, and what a touching story it was.

IMO, its time for Marvel to either man up and bring Mar-Vell back, or else restore his son Genis-Vell, or make an all new replacement and stick with it and not sabotage it with stupid editorial decisions like that stupid U-decide contest.

Granted that restoring Genis would be easier then bringing Mar-Vell back, but I think I'd rather have Mar-Vell return. Either a messianic themed resurrection or else a complete universal reboot event which so far is what Chaos War could end up being.

Death has fled and thus dead heroes are temporarily back on Earth, albeit still dead. Question now is when Hercules defeats the Chaos King will any of the dead be revived? Alpha Flight, maybe? Captain Mar-vell, hopefully?

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What, seriously? You sure he didn't just quit? No fun in being the Grim Reaper if people just keep reviving. Maybe he just hung up the old robe and scythe.

You're right, they haven't yet. But you -know- they will.

I really, really have to question the "Best of" stuff they reprinted. Marvelman was published for how long and those stories were the best?! Really?! Granted Marvel may actually want to bring in the Marvelman family as a couple of thuglike vigilantes, 'cause that's sure what they come off as to me in the reprint mini.

Marvel said they got the rights to Marvelman. Fans assumed that meant they also got the rights to the Miracleman stories, which are the ones that got all the publicity. Far as I know, Marvel's never clarified if they have any Miracleman material or if they're just going to run with Marvelman.

To say the whole Marvelman/Miracleman thing is extremely complicated is a massive understatement. Wiki helps to give a decent idea of the extent of the mess of the rights.

I'll have to read up on that later. As to Marvelman I don't think he'd fit in too well in the MU unless he's revamped and brought in. If they try to "shoehorn" him into MU continuity like they did with that cheap superman knockoff the Sentry then it won't work.

Heh, maybe Marvel is holding out to see how the DC vs Superman Creator estate lawsuit turns out. If DC loses the rights (and that is a possibility last I checked) can you imagine Marvel stepping in with an offer if for no other sake then to make DC squirm and beg to keep Superman? If Superman is lost to DC, then DC will need yet another Crisis series to shuffle Superman out of their continuity. Crisis of Infinite Trademark Suits.....nice title.

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If they do loose Superman, then maybe Captain Marvel will finally become the superman he was always meant to be.

To paraphrase Mr. Incredible: "No matter how many times you reap these people, they always manage to come back to life again. Sometimes I just want them to stay dead! I just killed you people! Can't you stay dead for ten minutes?!"

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Indeed, Captain Marvel/Shazam is the only DC hero that could replace Superman since he himself was created to be Fawcett Comic's version of Superman.

I liked how CM was used in Justice League Unlimited, Batman/Superman Public Enemies, and the Return of Black Adam.

DC is sitting on a potential gold mine with the character.

Too bad that Marvel has a hammerlock on the rights to publish a book titled Captain Marvel, eh?

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Shazam!

Traded for Wonderman and a superhero sidekick to be named later.

Time to dust off H.E.R.B.I.E.

I win!

What do I get???