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I'm taking components/shards anywhere I can. Money can by me hammy-os; it can NOT buy me shards/components.
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Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster
Well, out of 26 level 50's, all have a common slotted and maybe nine have an uncommon slotted. Most post-I19 respecs completed. And thoughts to the future are coming up.
Tier 1 alpha? Equivalent of 12 merits. Tier 2? Equivalent of 20 merits past the tier 1. So what of the future, then? Obviously you'll be able to save up shards and use them for anything. Anyone saving up extra components, or people too nervous that they'll just accumulate stuff they'll never use? And what about Ham-O's? Anyone taking the component from STF/LRSF instead of a Ham-O? |
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Yeah, I am thinking if it takes this much for alpha, and for common/uncommon - what could be possibly next? I have about 7 or 8 slotted with either common or uncommon. Many more to go. I don't think I even have the time to bother with them. I took the strategy to diversify - a buffer, damage, debuffer, etc. so that I can bring something to the new TFs.
My two big thoughts (or concerns) are:
- What happens at later like at the 3rd or 4th slots TF-wise? Apex and Tin Mage are great, but I would bet they will be designed us having slots filled for them (Gah! How about the Omega slot!!!).
- What happens to the old content? Are we going to laugh at the ITF/LGTF? Solo LRSF?
My head hurts...
I had been taking components for every tf I've run, but lately I've been noticing that shards are dropping a lot on just lvl 50 content which is pretty much all I run so I've been switching back to merits.
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But then the question is; how many merits will be needed? Will the steps up still be linearish as they have been? But of course, not knowing what components you need, it would feel like a waste to take ones in anticipation of what you MIGHT need.|
Originally Posted by The_Masque
I had been taking components for every tf I've run, but lately I've been noticing that shards are dropping a lot on just lvl 50 content which is pretty much all I run so I've been switching back to merits.
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Does anyone else feel like Hamster is purposefully trying to confuse people by calling shards "merits" ?
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The most confusing thing is that Voodoo changed his avatar!
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I'm interested to see where they go with this. According to the GR website, we'll need two rare alphas to make an ultra rare alpha boost, so part of me is debating whether I should start working on second (different) Cardiac Boost for Grey Pilgrim, or start working on the Spiritual line. He could do either right now, but I'm reluctant to "waste shards" until I know where the alpha boost is going.
On a bigger note, Castle is leaving the game as he needs something different. 
I know some of you have had issues with him, but he and BAB did many of the things that I think were best for this game in the past few years, and provided some consistency that we could point to in balance. I'm slightly worried about where things will go, though I'm assuming Black Scorpion and others have been around long enough that they won't change how things have been going too much, especially with War Witch at the helm.
Somewhat curious as to what his leaving will do to the new Incarnate stuff, but it sounds like a lot of it is planned already, and Posi was heading it anyway, I guess.
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Check the Dev digest. Castle posted this himself.
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Hmmmm. That might actually be... Scary. That's a lot of shards. And raises the old fear of encouraging/being forced to "farm" the same three or four task forces.
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I'm interested to see where they go with this. According to the GR website, we'll need two rare alphas to make an ultra rare alpha boost, so part of me is debating whether I should start working on second (different) Cardiac Boost for Grey Pilgrim, or start working on the Spiritual line. He could do either right now, but I'm reluctant to "waste shards" until I know where the alpha boost is going.
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According to the GR website, we'll need two rare alphas to make an ultra rare alpha boost.
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I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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I still don't see where it says that
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I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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The tree does make it look like you will need two, but I wonder if they just set it up that way to make it save space and look pretty. Until it is written out in words... I'm not going to make the 2nd one of any set yet.
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Read the text of the Very Rare boost: it says "Ability Cost: Any Two Rare." I've also heard a couple posters say it, but not say the source. That's the only bit I could find to back up those statements. I'm not sure why the devs left it so sketchy, but I am rather reluctant to build more than one cardiac boost for Grey Pilgrim until I know for sure what we need to do for those ultra rare.
I'm probably not going to aim for those with all my Incarnates, either, so I wouldn't worry too much about farming, Ham. Unless you need "teh uberz" for each one of your Incarnates, I'm going to guess that not all of them need to ignore Enhancement Diversification so much. I know mine don't. And you can get shards from the new TFs, so it's not like you HAVE to do those same TFs. I've heard shout-outs for ITFs the last couple times I've been on, and chosen not to join. Need a break from that one for a little bit.
For the Castle stuff, I'm glad he had the foresight (and the okay, presumably) to post about his leaving. BAB leaving was just... not done right.
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I still don't see where it says that
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If you hover your mouse over any of the very rares (say the Core Paragon, since the link goes straight to the endurance tree), the pop up window gives the description (45% end, blah blah blah, 2/3rds ignore ED, blah blah blah, level shift, yada yada..) but at the very bottom it says in brackets:
[Ability Cost: Any 2 Rare]
Which I would take to assume that you need 2 Rares to make a Very Rare. This statement would seem, however, to indicate that any two Rares work, not just specific ones that are above the tree you see in the link.
Now, this tree is different than the tree you see in-game: ingame, there's a bridge linking all 4 Rare species, which made me originally think that you needed all 4 Rares before you could make Very Rares. However, looking back at the tree in the link provided above, perhaps that is how the devs wanted to illustrate, ingame, that you need 2 of 'any' of the 4 Rares to make a Very Rare.
Now, assuming the Rares work like the Uncommons, you'll need to convert your Uncommon into a Rare, which means you lose your Uncommon. Meaning you'd have to make a 2nd Uncommon to make the other Rare that you want (going off of the ingame tree), before you could take those 2 Rares and turn them into a Very Rare.
Assuming this is true, what you 'could' do right now is make the other Uncommon in a tree (so you'd have both of them), so that when i20 hits, you could convert those 2 into two Rares (assuming you have sufficient shards and components, along with depending on the requirements of the Rares), then convert those two Rares into a Very Rare right away. Yes, that takes a definite gamble based on the requirements for the Rares and Very Rares, which we don't know about yet.
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If that's correct, I find that to be.... Frightening.
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Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster
If that's correct, I find that to be.... Frightening.
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Let's say you just made a Spiritual Radial (rech/heal), and that you now have no shards or components. (I doubt it'll come out that evenly, but that's neither here nor there for this example)
Now, on to the various assumptions:
- It takes 1 Uncommon Boost, along with common and uncommon components to make a Rare Boost. (not unreasonable to assume, just don't know how many)
-Assume, looking at the tree on the website, that 2 of the Rares will require one type of Uncommon, and that the other 2 require the other type of Uncommon.
-Assume, looking at the [Any 2 Rares] bit in brackets on the website, that for the Very Rare, it will take any of the 4 Rares, so that you could make two seperate Rares, using two seperate Uncommons. (now we start to stretch a bit)
Assuming all that... just in terms of shards: 12 shards to make another common. 20 to convert that to the other uncommon. Then perhaps... 2 uncommon components and 1 common to make a Rare? So that's 4+8+4+8+4 = 28 shards (again, shard counting only). That's 28 shards for one Rare.. then another 28 shards for the other Rare.
Next, to convert the two Rares to One Very Rare. Perhaps.. 3 uncommon components? 4+8+4+8+4+8 = 36 shards.
That would bring your total cost to 12+20+28+28+36 = 124 shards required. (Again, you already started with 1 uncommon boost)
Now, that's a LOT of assuming. If i20 introduces rare components, could get even more interesting. However, I think it's safe to conclude, if you're being given the choice of merits or components: components, components, components.
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Well, out of 26 level 50's, all have a common slotted and maybe nine have an uncommon slotted. Most post-I19 respecs completed. And thoughts to the future are coming up.
Tier 1 alpha? Equivalent of 12 merits. Tier 2? Equivalent of 20 merits past the tier 1. So what of the future, then?
Obviously you'll be able to save up shards and use them for anything. Anyone saving up extra components, or people too nervous that they'll just accumulate stuff they'll never use?
And what about Ham-O's? Anyone taking the component from STF/LRSF instead of a Ham-O?
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