Track Down Trapdoor (Ouro) HELP!
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AnElfCalledMack,
Posted on: 2010-12-16 22:00 in Player Questions
Depends on what you're playing.
Plus I haven't played it since tonights patch. Controllers/Doms (and anything with a hold) were cake before.
Use red inspirations.
I just did it on a spines/fire scrapper. Popped a bunch of reds and beat him down as quickly as possible.
Spent a good half hour trying to fight him. Wasn't sure if reds would work on my claw/sr scrapper. Ate uhm... 4 and a half rows of them before taking him on.
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You could try and do something insane like get help to beat him 
I don't get why people complain about not being able to solo some key bosses. I'm glad it's like this. It is an MMO after all.
Was trying to figure out if it's possible. Any elite boss is suppose to be soloable for the right build (scrappers solo rather well). Some are much harder of course. That, and no one seemed to be around.
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Can't hurt to bring along an Envenomed Dagger too. It's one of the craftable temp powers: -250% regen debuff, 80' range, 30 charges. When I did the arc (solo on a DM Regen Scrapper) it let me outright ignore his clones. Just keep chucking it at him whenever his green bar isn't dropping fast enough. I did the arc before the patch though, so I don't know if he's gotten stronger since.
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If that's the cast they should just implement an auto-team function so that your character is assigned to a team as soon as you log on.
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Originally Posted by TheJazMan
You could try and do something insane like get help to beat him
I don't get why people complain about not being able to solo some key bosses. I'm glad it's like this. It is an MMO after all. |
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Hyperbole. This is one mission in one arc. Get over it.
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Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
If that's the cast they should just implement an auto-team function so that your character is assigned to a team as soon as you log on.
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Depending on the archtype, some people use a ranged attack on the clone while continuing to attack Trapdoor with their melee, others send off a couple of their pets to attack the clone while continuing to fight Trapdoor, and others lure him into the lava and keep him in there with knockback/down or immobilise powers.|
Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
Not sure where else to ask this. Is the second door mission of the Alpha Slot arc even soloable? If so, how? I can beat down on Trapdoor no problem. Then he does his "create a clone" thing, and starts regenerating. Once he has 3 out, I can't dent his health any more, even with him in lava. But if I go after the clones, he heals to full anyway. Any advice for a soloist?
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Or they get some help. Teammate/s, Shivan Decimator, Vanguard HVAS, Snowbeast, Zombie, PPD/Arachnos Reinforcement, etc.
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Never mentioned that I had trouble doing the mission. The fact that a great many play this game does not mean that they are required to play together. Some people solo because of schedule, because they want to, or for what ever reason they choose to do so.
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Originally Posted by Demobot
Hyperbole. This is one mission in one arc. Get over it.
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Because you can solo in the game does not mean that everything in the game must be soloable by every character in the game. If someone refuses to ever team or ask for help for any reason, they need to accept that there are some things they will not be able to do on their own.|
Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Never mentioned that I had trouble doing the mission. The fact that a great many play this game does not mean that they are required to play together. Some people solo because of schedule, because they want to, or for what ever reason they choose to do so.
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This particular encounter seems to be one that is designed for you to need help with.
I didn't have any major problem with it either, but I can see it being difficult for some defenders or controllers. (I haven't run my defender through it yet, so I'll find out first hand I guess)
OP: When you see the message that he is bifurcating, break off immediately and kill the bifurcation before it starts really healing him. If you wait too long and he gets more than one out you won't be able to kill him, but if you kill the bifurcation as soon as it spawns it should stop the regen before it brings his HP bar up too much. It's annoying, but very doable (I did it on a Claws/Regen scrapper, so your Claws/SR should have no problem)
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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Try killing the clones.
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Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
Not sure where else to ask this. Is the second door mission of the Alpha Slot arc even soloable? If so, how? I can beat down on Trapdoor no problem. Then he does his "create a clone" thing, and starts regenerating. Once he has 3 out, I can't dent his health any more, even with him in lava. But if I go after the clones, he heals to full anyway. Any advice for a soloist?
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Standard responses to difficult solo situations..
*Use inspirations. If smalls don't do it, use medium or large.
*Temp powers. There are some really powerful temporary powers that a lot of players either don't know about or just never use.
*Ask someone for help. One person is often all that is needed, and there are plenty of players willing to help out for the short time it takes to get through a rough encounter.
Personally, I have yet to find any encounter in this game that cannot be handled solo with either inspirations or temp powers.
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Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
Not sure where else to ask this. Is the second door mission of the Alpha Slot arc even soloable? If so, how? I can beat down on Trapdoor no problem. Then he does his "create a clone" thing, and starts regenerating. Once he has 3 out, I can't dent his health any more, even with him in lava. But if I go after the clones, he heals to full anyway. Any advice for a soloist?
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Kill the clones to stop the regen boost then beat on him until he does it again. Rinse and repeat until he goes down.
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I doubt that's enough after the recent patch. My rad defender has at least that kind of -regen natively, and it did not faze him in the least. It seems he is getting the regen buff whether his clones are out or in LOS or not.
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Originally Posted by Triplash
Can't hurt to bring along an Envenomed Dagger too. It's one of the craftable temp powers: -250% regen debuff, 80' range, 30 charges.
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There's a variant on the "pin him in the lava" strategy that is rather fun, but only really available to Fiery Aura Tankers and Brutes. Just fight him in the lava. Turns out capped fire resistance does have its uses.
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Originally Posted by Fenrisulfr
Depending on the archtype, some people use a ranged attack on the clone while continuing to attack Trapdoor with their melee, others send off a couple of their pets to attack the clone while continuing to fight Trapdoor, and others lure him into the lava and keep him in there with knockback/down or immobilise powers.
Or they get some help. Teammate/s, Shivan Decimator, Vanguard HVAS, Snowbeast, Zombie, PPD/Arachnos Reinforcement, etc. |
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<smartalec>"Nemesis dismantlers - click 4 simultaneously." Let's see ya inspiration your way out of THAT, smart guy! </smartalec>
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Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
Personally, I have yet to find any encounter in this game that cannot be handled solo with either inspirations or temp powers. |
My usual solo strategy on him is kill the clones as soon as they come out then quickly get back to beating on him. They are minions so they go down fast, if you get to them fast they do not heal him and you will take him down.
With my tanker I managed to knock him into the lava and that was the end of him just had to safely talk to him from a nearby walkway.
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Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
Once he has 3 out, I can't dent his health any more
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I've solo'd him with everything from a Scrapper to a Defender with little difficulty.
When solo'ing him, you have to make sure and drop each clone as soon as it appears. It takes a little bit for his regen to really ramp up and if you drop each clone as priority #1 (they are only minion class, it's not that hard), he doesn't get a chance to do much healing.
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Tried taking on Trapdoor solo with an Ice/Dark tank last night, set to +4/x6
Now THAT is impossible. I'm going to have to change my difficulty 
(I hadn't logged in on said tank in a while, so I forgot how high I'd pumped the difficulty)
30 minutes of pounding minions and TrapDoor, even after pulling the Arachnos in the second last room to boost up my Soul Drain wasn't enough. I wasn't carrying Nukes or Shivans...those might have done the trick.
got him on my arch/mm blaster buy getting him down into the lava while I stood on an island. Popped purples, sniped his clones when they spawned hit, him with aoes and meele. The lava was a great help and it is not to hard to get him down into it.
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...Though when he's level 54, the damage of the lava seems to be significantly reduced.
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Originally Posted by sleepy_Gargoyle
got him on my arch/mm blaster buy getting him down into the lava while I stood on an island. Popped purples, sniped his clones when they spawned hit, him with aoes and meele. The lava was a great help and it is not to hard to get him down into it.
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To echo this: benumb (solo) didn't make a dent on him with the bifurcations up. With a team and decent damage he's still pretty easy, but solo -regen powers don't have much effect on him until the last of his furcations goes down. [Tested on Illusion/Cold controller solo]
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Originally Posted by Heraclea
I doubt that's enough after the recent patch. My rad defender has at least that kind of -regen natively, and it did not faze him in the least. It seems he is getting the regen buff whether his clones are out or in LOS or not.
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Took him on today since the patch set to x0/+0 knocked him in to the lava and it didn't even dent him like before tried to keep his bifurcations down but he summoned them faster than I could knock them down.
Then I tried on my Necro/Dark MM and he went down before I could target his first clone??
So not sure what to think!
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Not sure where else to ask this. Is the second door mission of the Alpha Slot arc even soloable? If so, how? I can beat down on Trapdoor no problem. Then he does his "create a clone" thing, and starts regenerating. Once he has 3 out, I can't dent his health any more, even with him in lava. But if I go after the clones, he heals to full anyway. Any advice for a soloist?
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