We don't know, but that would be a cool idea, despite your ridiculous sig demand.
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Neither Synapse nor Neuron are Incarnates.
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And Neuron doesn't have (or at least, display ingame) any movement abilities
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Neither Synapse nor Neuron are Incarnates.
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It is heavily implied that he is also a speedster, but yeah, The Devs didn't give his combat self in game any super speed type movement. Diabloique is enough, thanks (and she uses Siphon Speed, not superspeed).
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Originally Posted by Silverado
And Neuron doesn't have (or at least, display ingame) any movement abilities
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I'm not sure if this is true any more. While he doesn't have any during the Praetorian story arcs, he seemed to have super speed (of some sort) on the Tin Mage TF. At the very least, after he was pulled away from Bobcat he seemed to move pretty quickly. Though it's possible I'm remembering incorrectly.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
It is heavily implied that he is also a speedster, but yeah, The Devs didn't give his combat self in game any super speed type movement. Diabloique is enough, thanks (and she uses Siphon Speed, not superspeed).
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I agree wholeheartedly. I would much rather see that motion blur than a huge aura on my characters feet.
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He definitely has a way cool aura/trail effect.
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"The Well takes many forms throughout the universe."
(Doesn't anybody watch the game movie dialogue any more?)
Getting their powers from Crey is just another manifestation of the Well.
Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa It is heavily implied that he is also a speedster, but yeah, The Devs didn't give his combat self in game any super speed type movement. Diabloique is enough, thanks (and she uses Siphon Speed, not superspeed). |
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I'm not sure if this is true any more. While he doesn't have any during the Praetorian story arcs, he seemed to have super speed (of some sort) on the Tin Mage TF. At the very least, after he was pulled away from Bobcat he seemed to move pretty quickly. Though it's possible I'm remembering incorrectly.
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Neuron does indeed have superspeed, as does his counterpart, Synapse.
And neither of them suffer from Travel Power Suppression.
And both of them are Incarnates. ("The Well takes many forms throughout the universe.")
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Actually, they are. "The Well takes many forms throughout the universe." (Doesn't anybody watch the game movie dialogue any more?) Getting their powers from Crey is just another manifestation of the Well. Sorry. |
Is there anywhere in actual game lore that they are described as Incarnates? Is there anywhere it's even hinted?
Using the same standard of proof i'm going to assert our old friend Jenkins is also an Incarnate. He drank some soda from a soda machine at some point, and, well, the soda machine was just another manifestation of the Well. That's how he becomes a Huntsman later on. My arbitrarily designated Incarnate NPC is more awesome than yours!
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Actually, they are. "The Well takes many forms throughout the universe." (Doesn't anybody watch the game movie dialogue any more?) Getting their powers from Crey is just another manifestation of the Well. Sorry. |
Sorry. There is ZERO indication in the game that they are Incarnates and ample indication that they are NOT. (i.e. We are told very plainly where their powers came from.)
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Crey is apparently a manifestation of the Well in your imagination. Sorry. There is ZERO indication in the game that they are Incarnates and ample indication that they are NOT. (i.e. We are told very plainly where their powers came from.) |
This thread is amusing because it's a paper thin (at best) pretext to complain about movement suppression again over four years after it was implemented by attempting to invent a link between an NPC's unrelated behaviors and the Incarnate System. Silly at best.
While there are MMOs out there without movement suppression there are a couple mechanics that tend to go with it that make it less than ideal for some players as part of game balance.
1) Almost all attacks can be interrupted, so if you do move while activating an attack it's canceled.
2) You have to maintain direct facing at an opponent to hit it with an attack.
*runs out of the thread flailing like a muppet and consequently completely fails to hit the topic by constantly interrupting with movement and failing to maintain facing*
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GET RID OF TRAVEL POWER SUPPRESSION; GIVE SUBSCRIBERS BACK THEIR SUPER-POWERED SUPER HEROES!!!
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
despite your ridiculous sig demand.
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Travel suppression as it's implemented in cox could stand to be dialed back slightly.
The devs mistake is to think in terms of penalizing an integral part of your characters setup, rather then inventing ways (likely complex) to integrate, Super Speed, Flight, into an offensive/defensive option (think SS into a tornado stunning enemies, or Flying at sonic speed to your target dealing damage).
Suppression by and large was the devs fix for hit and run pvp, back when more then twelve players pvp'd.
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I don't disagree with some of this but the sig in question is a little over-the-top.
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Travel suppression as it's implemented in cox could stand to be dialed back slightly.
The devs mistake is to think in terms of penalizing an integral part of your characters setup, rather then inventing ways (likely complex) to integrate, Super Speed, Flight, into an offensive/defensive option (think SS into a tornado stunning enemies, or Flying at sonic speed to your target dealing damage). Suppression by and large was the devs fix for hit and run pvp, back when more then twelve players pvp'd. |
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*facepalm* Seriously...
Mobs in game do things we can't because they're dumb as a box of rocks. They need to cheat to be challenging.
Travel suppression isn't going away. Deal with it.
Hey Dasher, are you going to bump this lame thread every week?
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Originally Posted by Acemace
Travel suppression as it's implemented in cox could stand to be dialed back slightly.
The devs mistake is to think in terms of penalizing an integral part of your characters setup, rather then inventing ways (likely complex) to integrate, Super Speed, Flight, into an offensive/defensive option (think SS into a tornado stunning enemies, or Flying at sonic speed to your target dealing damage). Suppression by and large was the devs fix for hit and run pvp, back when more then twelve players pvp'd. |
And while it's not stun, SS does lead to Whirlwind
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think SS into a tornado stunning enemies
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This is over the top mental slavery.
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Except, they were never meant to be offensive/defensive options, really.
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They may not be very GOOD offensive options, but they're there.
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Wish they would change that to KU...
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yeah, paired in the pool, but the Powers themselves where just meant to help you move about the city
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Most travel powers have an offensive option with them (Whirlwind for Speed, Air Supremecy for Flight, Jump kick for Leaping).
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Games which do not have one or both of these things -- which explicitly allow the kiting the anti-suppression people want -- have extremely akward-looking animations, where the attacks are animated entirely independent of the legs (or whatever moves the character around).
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While there are MMOs out there without movement suppression there are a couple mechanics that tend to go with it that make it less than ideal for some players as part of game balance.
1) Almost all attacks can be interrupted, so if you do move while activating an attack it's canceled. 2) You have to maintain direct facing at an opponent to hit it with an attack. |
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Originally Posted by Dasher
When will we be getting Incarnate Powers that simulate the Movement abilities of Incarnates like Synapse and Neuron?
Neither of these Incarnates are subject to Travel Power Supression, so it is reasonable to assume there must be an Incarnate ability which addresses that. Thanks. DASHER |
Plus, of all the things to ask for under the guise of this excuse, unsuppressed travel is a weird one to ask for. Especially since neither has travel powers and thus no travel power suppression. Take swift and sprint and slot the heck out of them, and you too can run like the gods completely unsuppressed. I believe that combination is faster than Synapse is designed to run, actually.
If you're going to ask for something using this crazy theory, you should at least ask for something you can't get with a power pool and a few slots. Purple triangles, or 20,000 points of health, perhaps. I'd like Genesis to allow me to hand out task forces named after me. 'Cause why should Synapse have all the fun.
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When will we be getting Incarnate Powers that simulate the Movement abilities of Incarnates like Synapse and Neuron?
Neither of these Incarnates are subject to Travel Power Supression, so it is reasonable to assume there must be an Incarnate ability which addresses that.
Thanks.
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