How do you feel about the Incarnate System?


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So far I'm really liking the system itself. The bonuses are decent and don't take too much to craft (so far).

I have to say I do not like the fact that the missions to unlock the slot are filled with EBs. I had no problem soloing the arcs with my two current main toons, but when I tried to unlock the slot on my dark/ice and Kin/Elec defenders I came up with an epic fail.

I also wish the shard drops would fall at a better rate outside of TFs.


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And how long between cov and preatoria??? And preatoria only goes to 20ish.

To me, preatoria has been the only real content added since cov. Everything else has been small scale. IMO. So how long til preatoria goes to 50?

Yes, this is my opinion. Sorry if it upsets you! Lol
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I also wish the shard drops would fall at a better rate outside of TFs.
The drop rate in and outside of TFs is exactly the same. The only difference is that on a TF you're usually with a team of 8 so you fight a lot more enemies at a faster pace.


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Originally Posted by Lascher View Post
And how long between cov and preatoria??? And preatoria only goes to 20ish.

To me, preatoria has been the only real content added since cov. Everything else has been small scale. IMO. So how long til preatoria goes to 50?

Yes, this is my opinion. Sorry if it upsets you! Lol
You don't consider the Faultline revamp or Doppelganger missions to be significant? Faultline was pretty major, with all sorts of new missions and new stories.


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The drop rate in and outside of TFs is exactly the same. The only difference is that on a TF you're usually with a team of 8 so you fight a lot more enemies at a faster pace.
I actually don't believe that...

With my regen scrapper doing Tips and Oro arcs at +1/x5, I got zero shards in 16 missions.

Taking my DDD on one ITF, I got 8.

Granted, I have wretched, wretched drop luck, but I'm still not getting any drops soloing, even wading into big crowed and killing everything.


 

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You don't consider the Faultline revamp or Doppelganger missions to be significant?
There's also Inventions and the AE, which both added a bit to the game
Vanguard and the RWZ were quite important too


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Will anybody play their alts anymore? Or will you be bogged down in getting your alts to level 50 and be torn about which one to give time to?
The timing of the Incarnate system (and the build flexibility that came with inherent fitness) was great for me. I find myself uninterested in any new powerset combos so I haven't started new alts. I'm going to be focusing exclusively on my 50s for a good long time.


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Absolutely LOVE it! I was pleasantly surprised to see that the Incarnate Shard drops occurred far more often than I anticipated. Even while soloing. Yes teaming and doing TFs will get you the needed Incarnate components faster, but to me that's pretty much a given. Keep in mind that in the Incarnate system's earliest stages there didn't even exist a way to get your Incarnate slotted through purely solo content. So I think it's wonderful the devs added that option to cater to the solo players.

Considering that for many issues, all the "new content" tended to be for low to mid levels, I think it's great that the "end game" content is getting a good bit of love. Regardless of whether or not it's your thing (I'm personally indifferent towards it), more end game content is something that many players have been clamoring for. So I'm happy they're finally getting it and in general seem to be happy with the results. And I doubt it will be the ONLY thing the devs will focus on from here on out.

And as much as people like to knock it, AE has always been my answer for "never-ending" content. Since that came onto CoX, I've never really worried about running out of new content. And I'm not referring to the farming/exploitable AE missions. Contrary to popular belief, there are indeed some VERY GOOD story arcs in there - many in my opinion are just as good, if not better, than the standard CoX content. As long as you take advantage of its intended use, I don't see why it wouldn't be a viable option for those who wish for more content regardless of your level. Just my opinion!


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The drop rate in and outside of TFs is exactly the same. The only difference is that on a TF you're usually with a team of 8 so you fight a lot more enemies at a faster pace.
The drop rate may be the same, but when I count the amount of enemies I defeated solo since I19 and get no drops, and compare that to the three I got on an ITF something doesn't seem right.

I haven't been reading the forums lately so I'll assume my experiences are unique, if not I'll be willing to help out with chat logs.


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It feels pretty cool so far!
I'm not one to be into doing things just for the carrots, but I really love the fact that the shards drop separate from all other rewards and no matter what you're doing, so long as it is level 50+ (I do have to wonder if eventually they can add it to the AE system as well... however I am completely in favor of sitting back on that and waiting and seeing if it is doable without making it a get incarnate quick scheme and never ever becoming that).

The one thing that I love about people being a little more focused on certain characters is... It is generally a good thing when the community around you is based on consistently present characters. Even if someone only plays once a week... When it is the same character each time you play with them... it adds a bit to the fun, especially for role-players.
Not that I don't delve in playing many alts... I do... But I love trying to stick with mains much more than the others.

So, that is a nice benefit, in my opinion. And not to force people to play that way... but to give them reasons that make it fun for them to play those same characters.

One thing I am not entirely certain that I like (And not entirely certain that I don't like) is how the components are assigned to particular TFs/tasks.
It really doesn't matter, as the shards come from practically anything and everything, and making the components is a very simple task.
However, the aspect of guiding players to do particular TFs (that really, lore-wise, aren't related to the incarnate system) just rubs me the wrong way a tiny bit.
I'm not sure that will come into play as a real negative in any meaningful regard... but I'm eye-ing that just a bit to see if it does end up creating a situation that bothers me a little in some way that I have not yet realized.
Honestly, I don't see how... as any of those TFs/Raids will most likely net you enough to make whatever component you wish to have.
Selecting Reward Merits is still a good option, hehehe.

So far, I am liking the feel of it and the results on the community (And how, even though most [including me, a little bot] are making mad dashes to do and accomplish all of this, the whole thing really doesn't need to be a focused effort on the players' parts... The rewards can just come along the way).
There is still a lot of time to observe and see how things shape up, but it looks good thus far!


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I also wish the shard drops would fall at a better rate outside of TFs.
Actually, I think the drop rate is too fast as it is. I mean, I'm glad that I would be able to craft a common boost in a week or two by playing an hour a day if I wanted to, but it seems a bit fast for something that's supposed to be rare.

If they dropped as rarely as purples, I'd be upset. I think I've only gotten two purple drops across all of my characters since those were added to the game. But that might be due to not playing my 50s as 50s very often, given the lack of end game content before this issue. I think I've played them more in the past week than I have in the past year.


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Actually, I think the drop rate is too fast as it is. I mean, I'm glad that I would be able to craft a common boost in a week or two by playing an hour a day if I wanted to, but it seems a bit fast for something that's supposed to be rare.
Perhaps I've been very unlucky, but I haven't received a shard drop yet. Doesn't seem too fast to me...


 

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It's just the beginning, the tip, but I am excited by it.

Will anybody play their alts anymore? Or will you be bogged down in getting your alts to level 50 and be torn about which one to give time to?

I am constantly intrigued by the 9 other "slots" that remain to be unlocked and the potential they hold. I am curious if we will ever actually reach that point - that level - that we "play" ourselves in the first mission of Mender Ramiel's Arc. Is that the potential that all 10 slots will bring? Will I be making Ghost Widow eat floor as she cons yellow to me?

I am excited by what this system has to offer, and I imagine it is going to be a good, long while before all 10 slots are available, still, it's the journey, not the destination.
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I know the forums frown upon any critism of this holy game in any way shape or form, but.......

K, yes, you guys are spouting off little unrelated bits of content, I am talking a new lvl 1 to 50 experience....like cov and what they just started with preatoria.

If you are happy with the content they have gave you, that's great! I would like a new 1 to 50 experience....somewhere new for my toons to spend their careers, not just an hour here or there and still spending 95 percent of my road to 50 doing the same things I have done for 5 years...... And if feeling that way warrants your fanboi bashing of me, then so be it !


 

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If you are happy with the content they have gave you, that's great! I would like a new 1 to 50 experience....somewhere new for my toons to spend their careers, not just an hour here or there and still spending 95 percent of my road to 50 doing the same things I have done for 5 years...... And if feeling that way warrants your fanboi bashing of me, then so be it !
So you want a new game. Are you willing to wait another couple of years and pay another $50?


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So you want a new game. Are you willing to wait another couple of years and pay another $50?
Um.....yup! No problem! And not exactly a new game, or at least an integrated one, like cov is now. They started with preatoria, but 1 to 20 is a very small part of the hours you spend getting to 50. But, it's a start. And yes, prolly at least 2 years until they finish preatoria.....cause they are too focused on cosmetics and bigger boom for our toons.

But yes, you nailed it! Imo


 

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Loving it. i19 has made people want to do the TFs I love to do Shweeeeeeeee!


I think this is one of the (best) better things that has come from i19. A renewed interest in doing TFs other than the ITF. From my small experience, it was either ITF or nothing (not totally true but....also, except for Sundays or Sats. when certain SGs had events going on).

My main badger, EI actually got the Master of Barracuda badge Sat. night (Sun. morning really) even! Now he just needs the MoLRSF... :/


But yeah...it's nice seeing people want to do more than the ITF.


As far as the OP/original question....it's been hard for me lately (mainly cause I wanted to respec all my toons before the next freespec (which I did do!)).

Here's what I "have" to do (ie. like to do):

- Get more shards/components for my main EI and get him ready for i20 (or whenever the full alpha slot tree gets opened up). Right now he's using the recharge/healing uncommon boost but I want him to go up the left side of the 'tree' for the final rchg/healing/slow/immob. buff and not the final right side (healing/rchg).

- Unlock the alpha slot on all my 50s (20+ or so to do that).

- Once unlocked, slot my 50s with the basic common boost/ability that the toon needs (most will either take the rchg or end. reduction one)

- Lvl up my lvl 27 DA/DM Tanker to 50
-- Once he's 50, IO him out, unlock alpha, get the common ability

- Lvl up my lvl 11 KM/Ninj. Stalker to 50
-- Once he's 50, unlock alpha, get the common ability

- Make lots of (common) IOs that are needed for most of my toons that are missing common IOs. One toon atm, has 0 enhancements in his powers (he had all SOs and wanted to sell them while respec'ing so that I can just slot common IOs when ready).

- And of course, getting badges on my main badger (EI)



With me only have a few hours a day at most to play...yeah...it's 'rough' for me....but I'll take it


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So far, I'm happy with it. It's not as grindy as I had feared, and what we've seen so far looks interesting. Plus, I get to advance some 50s that were more or less put in storage. I look forward to seeing what the future abilities are.
Sums up my feelings exactly.

I really hope future installments tie new abilities and such more closely with new content. IE getting the Incarnate stuff FROM the incarnate content, rather than now, getting the Incarnate stuff then doing new TFs.


But Yeah it's cool so far, just waiting on the rest of the alpha boosts and the start of Judgement.


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Originally Posted by Lascher View Post
I know the forums frown upon any critism of this holy game in any way shape or form, but.......

K, yes, you guys are spouting off little unrelated bits of content, I am talking a new lvl 1 to 50 experience....like cov and what they just started with preatoria.

If you are happy with the content they have gave you, that's great! I would like a new 1 to 50 experience....somewhere new for my toons to spend their careers, not just an hour here or there and still spending 95 percent of my road to 50 doing the same things I have done for 5 years...... And if feeling that way warrants your fanboi bashing of me, then so be it !
Oh please. Get over yourself.

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Um.....yup! No problem! And not exactly a new game, or at least an integrated one, like cov is now. They started with preatoria, but 1 to 20 is a very small part of the hours you spend getting to 50. But, it's a start. And yes, prolly at least 2 years until they finish preatoria.....cause they are too focused on cosmetics and bigger boom for our toons.

But yes, you nailed it! Imo
As I said before. Having unrealistic expectations only sets you up for dissapointment.


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Perhaps I've been very unlucky, but I haven't received a shard drop yet. Doesn't seem too fast to me...
That sucks for you. Really. (You are fighting level 50 enemies and above right? Just making sure.)

Maybe they should build in some sort of guarantee. Something like if you haven't gotten a shard in 1000 kills you should get one guaranteed off your next kill.

I personally found 5 or 6 in around 10 tip missions set for x3 or x4.And an average of 6 per TF/SF I've done so far.

I'd say that is about the same rate per mob defeated.


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That sucks for you. Really. (You are fighting level 50 enemies and above right? Just making sure.)
Yes, all enemies are at least level 50. I'm currently doing Unai Kemen's arc. Lots of nice big outdoor maps.

Note: I'm not actually in any kind of hurry to get the shards. I was just pointing out that collecting shards doesn't seem to be very fast from my perspective.


 

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I have spent most of my game time for the last few days respecing my many, many characters, so I haven't had time to try all the new goodies. I have taken 5 of my 50s through the Incarnate arc, 3 solo, and so far, two of them did a TF and then was able to slot the basic slot. I have yet to try the new TFs, but I hear that they are a challenge.


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Yes, all enemies are at least level 50. I'm currently doing Unai Kemen's arc. Lots of nice big outdoor maps.

Note: I'm not actually in any kind of hurry to get the shards. I was just pointing out that collecting shards doesn't seem to be very fast from my perspective.
My apologies for asking a "Is the power cord plugged in?" type question, but it is only to make absolutely certain in an attempt to help (if the answer were no), so...

Did you complete Mender Ramiel's arc in order to unlock the Alpha Slot?

Regardless, I can absolutely see how one could go by and not get a shard drop for quite a while.

I haven't done that much, but a full team ITF run did net me 8 shard drops and my wife got 10 on that same run (neither numbers including the final reward).

And yeah... no need to rush. Just play and it'll happen.


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