So sad...

I've been on both ends of the spectrum with this mish: easily solo'ed at +2/x8 with a Plant/Psi dominator and limped through at +0/x1 with a mind/nrg dom. I imagine for anyone without mez protection this mish becomes a real bear. Of course, that's only half the story. Use BF's and you're still at the mercy of being sapped of endurance.

Damn. Another mission I will auto complete, or drop when I get it.

I used to LOVE doing this at x8 on my Elec/Ninjitsu/Mu stalker.

No need to be so mean to each other :|


I know it was a bug and bugs need fixing, just... it took all the fun out of it.

I really hope they'll add something similar that we can do for fun in the future!
Instead of everything being boringly slow :|

I shall end this with a quote from the Honoree thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilGeko ....asked what people who are average skilled and (in his estimation) are not able to complete this mission should do. I said I think they should practice and become a better player. If you think that makes me an elitist, then you're entitled to that opinion. But there is no hobby, no game, no vocation, no nothing worth doing where this advice doesn't hold. If you want to accomplish things, you might need to learn about them. Saying that's elitist is so inane, that I think you must just be reacting emotionally to the mission and not to what I said. Because what I said is so completely non-controversial in any other context.

I've run the mission many times with my empath. At +1/x3, it was...challenging, but not outright deadly. I didn't generally run it that high, though. On the whole, I didn't have any trouble with it.

That said, the spawn behavior in it was highly erratic, resulting in an uneven play experience with the mission--one player might get a long, boring stretch between spawns, while another had them spawn almost simultaneously on top of the character's head. It's good that the bug was fixed, because erratic behavior in software is a bad thing.

If it turns out that the gaps between spawns are too long now, they could be shortened. They could even be varied, so that waves come at different intervals. If so, however, it should be done in a controlled and deliberate way.

tl;dr: Challenge is good, but bugs are bad.

I really doubt that mission was working as intended. Bugs are supposed to be fixed. It doesn't have anything to do with making whiners happy.

If you guys want harder missions, there is that whole difficulty slider thing going. Crank it up to +4/x8 and have fun with it.

Persons playing at +0/x1 difficulty should not be hit with missions that are far beyond what that difficulty setting is supposed to deliver.

The nice thing about the difficulty settings is that they allow people to find their fun zone and play there without bothering other people.

If +4/x8 difficulty isn't hard enough for you, ask the developers to offer +6/x16 or something. Was adding higher difficulty levels to the game twice catering to whiners? The default difficulty was working as intended wasn't it? That wasn't a bug. Who are the whiners here, really?

The first time I tried running this mission, with no prior knowledge, on my defender at +0/x1, I got rushed by multiple waves spaced about ten seconds apart, each with a Sapper. Ten seconds is about how long it takes me to take down half of a solo ambush. In very short order, I was sapped and dead. I /bugged it. Ambushes aren't supposed to work that way, in my experience.

I've attempted the mission only once since, with a scrapper. THAT was one heck of a rush, and I still only barely pulled it off; it was never "easy", and I don't know if I could do it twice. Every other time I've gotten the tip, I've dismissed it. Not for me.

Those who wish to measure the size of their e-peens have stuff like the Scrapper Challenges. IMO, it's nice to know the game won't throw multiple near-simultaneous waves of You Lose Now at someone who's been innocently soloing through tip content.

IMO, it's not even that it's hard, it's that it's so much harder than any other tip mission I've seen in the same range - if your average tip is a 3 or 4, that one cranked it up to 9 or 10. And there's nothing to suggest this to someone who hasn't run it before and doesn't immediately go "oh hell, THAT one" and drop the tip as soon as it turns up.