WTF Purples?


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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
I can't tell the noise from the signal on purples. There's always been a lot more variability in purple prices on weekends, but this weekend has been extra-crazy. There are literally last 5's where four of them are 500-800 million and one of them is 327 million.

I'm starting to wonder if someone found a secret fountain of inf, like when the AE Mastermind bug was going on and people could farm up 2 billion inf in a matter of hours.
i remember when that happened, for like a few weeks afterwords the market did a topsy turvy and everything went out of wack lol


 

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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
I19 (which will most likely be happening sometime in November) is going to be giving us not only Inherent Fitness which will allow us to get other new powers that will likely need Purple IOs but with the Incarnate system we are (IIRC) going to be getting a third build slot. That's a whole lot of respecing that's going to be happening and a whole lot of new slots that are going to need a bunch of new Purple IOs.

Seems pretty obvious to me why people are preparing/hording for that.
Because they don't understand that they have the exact same number of slots they had before*, to use with 3 or 4 more powers?




* not counting the 3-4 slots that come as the "base" slots for the inherent fitness powers, of course.


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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake View Post
I'll tell ya why, I have nothing else to do with my influence so I came to these forums here and read all kinds of things about how to *bleep* the market prices up like the rest of you. So I have found a new game. It's called Market PvP! Care to battle me?



I'm currently driving up the prices on Gravitational Anchors, my next project will be Fortunata Hypnosis!

The nature of Market PvP is that you'll rarely know the name of your opponents...and when someone does proclaim something (driving up price of X) you have every reason to suspect they're actually doing the opposite.


 

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The nature of Market PvP is that you'll rarely know the name of your opponents...and when someone does proclaim something (driving up price of X) you have every reason to suspect they're actually doing the opposite.

When I get bored, I will go through this section and give you many names if you like, but you know at least 1 of them already... ME!

And I will gladly start taking some screenshots if you'd like

Hell wants some screenshots of my base enhancement tables? I will show ya what I've been collecting and selling ...lol


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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
The truly ebil know that in Market PvP if you fight your opponent directly then you have already lost.
Bah! I have already defeated you in my mind, because I have the will of the warrior!
Want a rematch? Hah! You lose again!


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Bah! I have already defeated you in my mind, because I have the will of the warrior!
Want a rematch? Hah! You lose again!
I lol'ed!


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No Body knows, but me and i am not telling so youll have to figure it out for yourself


 

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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake View Post
When I get bored, I will go through this section and give you many names if you like, but you know at least 1 of them already... ME!

And I will gladly start taking some screenshots if you'd like

Hell wants some screenshots of my base enhancement tables? I will show ya what I've been collecting and selling ...lol
You can give me names all you like....but unlike the real market where a trade is signed with a medallion # and where even bids and asks are marked by market maker, there is no certainty here. Last 5 is a pathetic amount of information to be limited to.....and I wasn't referring to market PvP in general I was discussing any specific conflict. I welcome you to make the move from badging to market PvP if you like Beef Cake. At badging I respect your knowledge, organization, and general aptitude. But here you're out of your element and not as experienced as many of the other players. This isn't simply "reading some guides and messing up the market" as you've seemed to put it earlier. Marketing which is pure price control will always eventually fall apart. The big money is in providing a service by crafting certain IOs and controlling a significant portion of that IO's production as a niche. If you move into my niches I'll be happy to take some of your inf or use you to make us both inf but myself the larger share...depending on how you play your salvage, recipes, and IOs. If you don't.....why would I PvP you?....no profit.

I dont really want to see what anyone has hoarded....cause then people would want to see mine and I don't feel like posting pics of my 54 tables full of 50-100 IOs each (2 bases on freedom, 1 on infinity, 1 on justice). They may not all be purples, but I still have alot of those.

If you want to impress me with your ability to accumulate inf or stuff (which can be made into inf)....post a pic of one of your toons with more than 80M prestige earned (or converted). Then you can show me you had more than 40B that you just burned cause it was getting too tough to store it all.......kind of like me.


 

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Originally Posted by EarthWyrm View Post
Because they don't understand that they have the exact same number of slots they had before*, to use with 3 or 4 more powers?
I'd say it's more because they are planning to respec anyway, so why not work some purples into the mix?

But I do have to say, that's not in line with the way Lothic's post is worded.


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You can give me names all you like....but unlike the real market where a trade is signed with a medallion # and where even bids and asks are marked by market maker, there is no certainty here. Last 5 is a pathetic amount of information to be limited to.....and I wasn't referring to market PvP in general I was discussing any specific conflict. I welcome you to make the move from badging to market PvP if you like Beef Cake. At badging I respect your knowledge, organization, and general aptitude. But here you're out of your element and not as experienced as many of the other players. This isn't simply "reading some guides and messing up the market" as you've seemed to put it earlier. Marketing which is pure price control will always eventually fall apart. The big money is in providing a service by crafting certain IOs and controlling a significant portion of that IO's production as a niche. If you move into my niches I'll be happy to take some of your inf or use you to make us both inf but myself the larger share...depending on how you play your salvage, recipes, and IOs. If you don't.....why would I PvP you?....no profit.

I dont really want to see what anyone has hoarded....cause then people would want to see mine and I don't feel like posting pics of my 54 tables full of 50-100 IOs each (2 bases on freedom, 1 on infinity, 1 on justice). They may not all be purples, but I still have alot of those.
Ah, so because I don't post on these forums on a daily basis like the rest of you, patting myself on the back because I managed to buy low and sell high. Or to provide a service of selling IOs at 1 million each, I'm not worthy...lol

Ok I gotcha, to each his own I suppose. But I'm not like the rest of you, I don't brag about what I've done or haven't done. I made my post earlier to liven the thread up a bit, but my post wasn't just that, it was telling what I am doing. Troll post if you will.

I flip items every day, I may not keep prices at a certain range for x amount of time, but I make the money. Flipping is easy when you have the inf to burn, buy everything and do what you do. Monopolize that item you want to flip, I'm just glad that I have other servers that I can create what I like to call, bank toons to hold my money since as you said it, storage is limited.

And to convert inf to prestige, bah, not worth it at all. I do it sometimes, but not very often. I don't PvP the Top 100 Rank list on the server, yeah, we are #1 on my server but what does that mean really? You can't do a damn thing with prestige, so to me it's useless and converting my hard earned cash, err I mean someone else's hard earned cash to prestige to me is worthless, I would much rather just store it as I have been

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If you want to impress me with your ability to accumulate inf or stuff (which can be made into inf)....post a pic of one of your toons with more than 80M prestige earned (or converted). Then you can show me you had more than 40B that you just burned cause it was getting too tough to store it all.......kind of like me.
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Ok, I brag a little since you wanted to see it, but it's not quite as much as you asked for, but I'm close I guess


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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake View Post
I flip items every day, I may not keep prices at a certain range for x amount of time, but I make the money.
You can make *money* on flipping?

Guys, guys, we've all been doing it wrong!




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You can make *money* on flipping?

Guys, guys, we've all been doing it wrong!
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Ah, so because I don't post on these forums on a daily basis like the rest of you, patting myself on the back because I managed to buy low and sell high. Or to provide a service of selling IOs at 1 million each, I'm not worthy...lol

Ok I gotcha, to each his own I suppose. But I'm not like the rest of you, I don't brag about what I've done or haven't done. I made my post earlier to liven the thread up a bit, but my post wasn't just that, it was telling what I am doing. Troll post if you will.

Slow down Francis...try not lumping everyone together no? I dont pat myself on my back at all....need both hands to hold my monies.


 

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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake View Post
When I get bored, I will go through this section and give you many names if you like, but you know at least 1 of them already... ME!

And I will gladly start taking some screenshots if you'd like

Hell wants some screenshots of my base enhancement tables? I will show ya what I've been collecting and selling ...lol
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... and I sign everything with xxx,908 and I explain things in public and I _still_ make money off the same stuff I've always made money off. Including examples mentioned here.

Not that it matters. The real PVP these days is on the SG Top 100 lists.
It's funny how often people forget that maybe, at best, only about 5-10% of the playerbase even bothers to read these forums much less post here. I suspect all you "market jockeys" could give away all of your devious little strategies and secrets about how you make INF here and nothing would be ruined or changed in the game.


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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
It's funny how often people forget that maybe, at best, only about 5-10% of the playerbase even bothers to read these forums much less post here. I suspect all you "market jockeys" could give away all of your devious little strategies and secrets about how you make INF here and nothing would be ruined or changed in the game.

You think so? I see change everyday on the markets, salvage prices constantly going up and up. Common alvage has gone crazy high, those salvage that sell for 100,000 isn't much, but when you're the person selling thousands of them on a daily basis, it adds up to a pretty good amount.

I was in a wierd mood last night, I had a good night and wanted to have some fun with the forum goers, if they get mad, they will get over it, it's just a game.


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Ah, so because I don't post on these forums on a daily basis like the rest of you, patting myself on the back because I managed to buy low and sell high. Or to provide a service of selling IOs at 1 million each, I'm not worthy...lol

Ok I gotcha, to each his own I suppose. But I'm not like the rest of you, I don't brag about what I've done or haven't done. I made my post earlier to liven the thread up a bit, but my post wasn't just that, it was telling what I am doing. Troll post if you will.

I flip items every day, I may not keep prices at a certain range for x amount of time, but I make the money. Flipping is easy when you have the inf to burn, buy everything and do what you do. Monopolize that item you want to flip, I'm just glad that I have other servers that I can create what I like to call, bank toons to hold my money since as you said it, storage is limited.

And to convert inf to prestige, bah, not worth it at all. I do it sometimes, but not very often. I don't PvP the Top 100 Rank list on the server, yeah, we are #1 on my server but what does that mean really? You can't do a damn thing with prestige, so to me it's useless and converting my hard earned cash, err I mean someone else's hard earned cash to prestige to me is worthless, I would much rather just store it as I have been



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Ok, I brag a little since you wanted to see it, but it's not quite as much as you asked for, but I'm close I guess
Is converting worth it? Probably not to most players. I convert, mostly cause I've run out of other realistic long-term goals other than burning 225B more to get my solo-VG to #1. My badger is 95% done (900ish badges), I have a level 50 in every AT, I have an excess of high quality IOs in my base.........so I made an odd goal for myself to have something useful to do while I still enjoy the game. A side benefit of converting is I am marginally reducing the supply of inf in the game which over time keeps down the rate of inflation inherent in a game w/o sufficient inf sinks.

I will conceed that you must have been making inf for a while if you have "blown up" roughly 20-30B to make that much prestige. So you probably know what you're doing marketeering. I don't "brag" either on these forums and rarely tell people what I'm doing. When I post its just to inform people about what works and what doesn't work or to add economic discussion to the mix (which may not be relevant since this isn't a real economy). You seem to have an excessively negative view of marketeers but if you hadn't noticed we really aren't doing this to "get rich" or ruin the market, or whatever....we already are rich and ruining the market makes no sense. We do it for as dissimilar reasons as why people play the PvE and PvP sides of the game. So try not to come here and troll everyone at once. I respect you as a very knowledgable badging guru; There is no reason to drag your rep down by slandering us because we write about making inf in the market.


 

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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
It's funny how often people forget that maybe, at best, only about 5-10% of the playerbase even bothers to read these forums much less post here. I suspect all you "market jockeys" could give away all of your devious little strategies and secrets about how you make INF here and nothing would be ruined or changed in the game.
I'm not worried about the 95% who don't read. If I gave my specific positions away the 5% could rip me down from making 600-1000M a day to a mere 100M a day. So I don't do it. As for generalities, if you "own" a niche you can make alot of inf off of it. I have one which gives 300M a day predictably every day...unless someone typoes and gives me more.


 

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Huh, I still think it's cool if I find something that can make me a hundred mil in a week, but then, I don't have enough loose change to play with purples and such.


 

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Is converting worth it? Probably not to most players. I convert, mostly cause I've run out of other realistic long-term goals other than burning 225B more to get my solo-VG to #1. My badger is 95% done (900ish badges), I have a level 50 in every AT, I have an excess of high quality IOs in my base.........so I made an odd goal for myself to have something useful to do while I still enjoy the game. A side benefit of converting is I am marginally reducing the supply of inf in the game which over time keeps down the rate of inflation inherent in a game w/o sufficient inf sinks.

I will conceed that you must have been making inf for a while if you have "blown up" roughly 20-30B to make that much prestige. So you probably know what you're doing marketeering. I don't "brag" either on these forums and rarely tell people what I'm doing. When I post its just to inform people about what works and what doesn't work or to add economic discussion to the mix (which may not be relevant since this isn't a real economy). You seem to have an excessively negative view of marketeers but if you hadn't noticed we really aren't doing this to "get rich" or ruin the market, or whatever....we already are rich and ruining the market makes no sense. We do it for as dissimilar reasons as why people play the PvE and PvP sides of the game. So try not to come here and troll everyone at once. I respect you as a very knowledgable badging guru; There is no reason to drag your rep down by slandering us because we write about making inf in the market.
Apparently, you haven't read my other posts. I don't have anything negative to say about marketeers here, hell I even said I do it myself. I was just having some fun, so don't take it so serious. As my kid always tells me take a chillaxative

And to be hoenst, I was sort of thinking of doing what you had mentioned. I too just created a side base for me to put all my hancers in. I called it Rogue Isle City Bank, I know corny, but it sort of fits the role of what I was wanting to do as well. I was going to take my inf and convert it to bring it up to the top 5 over night and watch people go crazy... lol

But it's all good man, don't sweat me, I was just here to poke at everyone and give you all a hard time


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You think so? I see change everyday on the markets, salvage prices constantly going up and up. Common alvage has gone crazy high, those salvage that sell for 100,000 isn't much, but when you're the person selling thousands of them on a daily basis, it adds up to a pretty good amount.

I was in a wierd mood last night, I had a good night and wanted to have some fun with the forum goers, if they get mad, they will get over it, it's just a game.
Yep things change in the markets all the time REGARDLESS of what a few people who think they are being "clever" about it do there.

That was my point: No matter what a few people do to try to manipulate or "work" the market it's all going to balance out to the values they were going to balance out to anyway. I earn around 400-500 million INF a week on the markets with about 15 minutes a day worth of effort. I'm sure there are people who do much better than that but for my purposes it's more than sufficient. But even if I were precisely detail exactly what I do to to make that INF here in the forums it wouldn't change my ability to keep doing it. Not enough people read or post in these forums to make that kind of difference either way.

So ultimately people trying to have "fun" with other marketeers here is wasting their effort all things considered.


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I'm not worried about the 95% who don't read. If I gave my specific positions away the 5% could rip me down from making 600-1000M a day to a mere 100M a day. So I don't do it. As for generalities, if you "own" a niche you can make alot of inf off of it. I have one which gives 300M a day predictably every day...unless someone typoes and gives me more.
The 5% you're worried about already know the "positions" you're talking about, or at least have a pretty good idea about them. There aren't -that- many combinations to cover in this game. I really wouldn't worry about ANYTHING leaked in the forums about it. *shrugs*


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I'm still getting over this line:
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But I'm not like the rest of you, I don't brag about what I've done or haven't done.
Seems spot on.

The forum breaks down into,

1 Posts for the purpose of Conspicuously consuming

2 Posts chiding people for not being sufficiently industrious in a video game or for not enjoying this part of the game.

3 Posts that are offers to buy or sell

4 Guides to making inf, that read like guides to making atomic weapons that fail to mention what the fissile materials are, or the need to maintain critical mass

5. Guides to making inf, that read like guides to making atomic weapons based on waiting for proton decay.

6. Genuinely informative guides. << everything else

Edit: I forgot 7, the how dare you suggest changes to the system that might make it into something I am not good at posts.


 

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5. Guides to making inf, that read like guides to making atomic weapons based on waiting for proton decay.

...

the flippers guide to bits, influence and you!

step one: find a spare smoke detector in the house. usually there's one or 2 hanging on a wall, or perhaps the ceiling in a hallway. the claw end of a claw hammer is especially effective.

what you really want is the americium tucked away inside.

.....stay tuned for part 2. for the moment i'm feeling a bit nauseous and my gums hurt. cya soon!



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