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I don't recall that number getting thrown around before. Where's that from (not necessarily doubting, just haven't heard that)?
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Inflation is also a factor which stems from the fact that there aren't enough inf sinks in the game. There was over 300 trillion inf sitting in the game before the market went live.
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I never saw the original source but back on the old forums when making comments about how much inf was in the system I was corrected that it wasn't billions but trillions by a couple of people.
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Originally Posted by macskull
I don't recall that number getting thrown around before. Where's that from (not necessarily doubting, just haven't heard that)?
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My question still hasn't been answered, so I'll reiterate.
How exactly do you propose we stop people from fasrming in BOTH versions of Atlas Park? If both zones are identical (which they would have to be), there is nothing stopping anyone from AE farming in either zone.
If you're suggesting an alternate Atlas Park be created that doesn't have AE in it, my reaction will be as follows:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
There is no way in hell the devs are going to create a separate AP that has no AE in it just to appease a vocal minority on the forums.
If the broadcast chatter annoys you that much, start somewhere else, or simply turn broadcast off in your chat window.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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Does 1 person even qualify as a minority? |
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
There is no way in hell the devs are going to create a separate AP that has no AE in it just to appease a vocal minority on the forums.
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Yeah, I'd say it does. |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Does 1 person even qualify as a minority?
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It's not the first time I've heard the complaint though, so there are a few more people with the same issue.
But the fact remains that the devs aren't going to program a separate AP on one or two servers just to appease those people. (Seems the complaint only really exists on Freedom and Virtue, I don't see much AE farming going on at all on Pinnacle anymore)
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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Even before AE, Atlas Park was refered to as THE place for inane, stupid or even abusive Broadcast chatter.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
If the broadcast chatter annoys you that much, start somewhere else, or simply turn broadcast off in your chat window.
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To be specific I was referring to the number of times I've heard someone suggest making a duplicate farm-free Atlas Park.|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
Yeah, I'd say it does.
It's not the first time I've heard the complaint though, so there are a few more people with the same issue. |
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| But the fact remains that the devs aren't going to program a separate AP on one or two servers just to appease those people |
If the OP insists on starting in the most popular starting zone then he's just going to have to deal with the lag and farm chatter. Those other players have just as much right to be there as he does.
whoa lots of my fan club here! hi guys and catgirls! miss me?
well i think they should isolate the sewers to DA cause those dirty sludge runners have been stinking up AP long enough.
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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Originally Posted by Black_Barrier
Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...
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Yeah, well I am sick of all the people spamming broadcast in Atlas Park to form their sewer farms. I mean sewer "teams". |
Originally Posted by Olympus_NA
I'm not saying that people should play how I want them to play, I'm saying that I would like to play the way I want to play with others who like to play the same without the intrusion of farming. (No confusion at all right?) If others find farming fun thats fine but I would really prefer if there were two zones for Atlas Park this way they can have their fun while I can have mine. It's not a huge problem because most players who don't farm rarely visit Atlas Park, it's not a huge problem but I just wanted to see reactions and arguments. Sewer teams are not farming, if this was farming the size of enemy groups would have been reduced long ago. I've also never paid for a sewer team
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I'm trying to read all the broadcast spam about the costume contests and your kind of players are messing that up for me.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Ha ha ha
These posts are so funny...
Stormy
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Oh so you mean i would have to take one of my newbs through my base to peregrine and run one of the 5-6 perfectly balanced farm missions i used before the AE to level them up to 20 in the same amount of time?|
Originally Posted by Lothic
The Devs, in hindsight, probably should have made a level requirement to do anything with AE. If they had made it so you had to be at least level 10 or 20 to even run AE missions then maybe there would be fewer "AE babies" out there. Who knows...
It's all water under the bridge. I'm not sure there's anything at this point worth doing to improve this situation one way or the other. *shrugs* |
I get seriously tired of people blaming the failure of idiots to understand a perfectly simple game on being an AE Baby. There has never been a lack of farming or power leveling options in this game. But there have always been dumb-***** who even when playing a character fail to understand the basic concepts of teamwork and their ATs role on a team. That has nothing to do with PLing.
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So oh "Make a me a farm free atlas. wait now im level 8, i need a farm free Kings Row.....oh hang on might as well do a farm free steel while your at it ill be there in a couple days..."|
Originally Posted by Olympus_NA
I would love to see the devs acknowledge farming and make "Zone 2" for the farming heavy zones, not only am I sick of getting mega lag in Atlas Park, I can't even find sewer teams anymore, (or start them). This would also give new players the ability to learn about the game before we lose them to AE until they are level 50 at which point I would rather have a toddler in my team. This is not a hate towards farming (well just a little), I just want to be in a zone with good players who play the game for fun.
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Get over yourself. Farming exists it will always exist, just ignore it if you want to play it. God i cant wait until you have to listen to constent tells for ToT teams next week. Between that and 2 weeks of night you probably will be suicidal by the end of the halloween event.
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What's funny is that the OP somehow thinks running through the sewers killing mobs of bad guys with no story or mission content behind it, isn't somehow farming.|
Originally Posted by OPTICAL_ILLUSION
whoa lots of my fan club here! hi guys and catgirls! miss me?
well i think they should isolate the sewers to DA cause those dirty sludge runners have been stinking up AP long enough. |
LOLWUT?
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No. I don't label the players you describe as AE babies. However when I run into a level 41 Peacebringer who asks me what enhancements are, asks where Perigrine Island is, or says, "We can leave Atlas Park!? How?" then he's an AE baby.|
Originally Posted by QuiJon
I get seriously tired of people blaming the failure of idiots to understand a perfectly simple game on being an AE Baby. There has never been a lack of farming or power leveling options in this game. But there have always been dumb-***** who even when playing a character fail to understand the basic concepts of teamwork and their ATs role on a team. That has nothing to do with PLing.
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I've also been on teams where everyone but the AE baby was waiting outside the mission entrance in Talos, PI, RWZ all the while the AE baby who was still in Atlas Park, was insisting he is also at the entrance but it won't let him enter.
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Well the OP probably doesn't count them because the sewers are a different zone.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
What's funny is that the OP somehow thinks running through the sewers killing mobs of bad guys with no story or mission content behind it, isn't somehow farming.
LOLWUT? |
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yeah those sewer scum think they are better than the rest of us and always deny their underground farming activities.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
What's funny is that the OP somehow thinks running through the sewers killing mobs of bad guys with no story or mission content behind it, isn't somehow farming.
LOLWUT? |
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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Originally Posted by Black_Barrier
Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...
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Can't say that I ever hear "Farm forming, send tell" spam broadcasted in Atlas Park, or any other zone for that matter. Oh, that's right, I don't play on Freedom.
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*facepalm* @ the MANY people who will whine about farmers, then talk about getting sewer teams in the same post.|
Originally Posted by Megajoule
But then they can't get a sewer farm, I mean team.
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Even more so if they whine about how NEW PLAYERS should join a sewer team.
A game is not supposed to be some kind of... place where people enjoy themselves!
So far Stormy your post about AE and not making money or exp is the funniest of all!
You know the sadest part really is that with the difficulty/team size slider, an AE PLer doesnt need a team anymore to level his toons. However a sewer group has to spam broadcast for interested parties to join the team.....
Kinda wierd the OPer is having a problem with the first group when the second group is actually all the more present in his zone causing disruption.
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You can't find or start sewer teams any more because most people are starting in the brand new zone instead of doing something 6ish years old.
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Originally Posted by Olympus_NA
I can't even find sewer teams anymore, (or start them).
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"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill
Get farming out of Atlas. Some people may enjoy farming, others don't Either way it's not really cool to encourage the new people to go straight to the AE and live there without seeing the rest of the city.
notice the word: encourage... not force, so don't play word games.
Whining about everything since 2006.
Ammo switching for Dual Pistols was my idea:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=135484
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Originally Posted by Vel_Overload
Get farming out of Atlas.
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And what, exactly, is the defintion of "farming" that they're going to use?
AE is not farming.
Farming is not PLing.
What, *exactly,* are you against, and how do you propose to remove it without impacting everyone else?
(FWIW, unless I'm on Freedooom, I don't really see "farming" of any sort encouraged in Atlas. It's one of the reasons I've migrated from there.)
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If you've only played an AT once (one set combo) and "hate" it - don't give up. Roll a different combo. It may just be those sets not clicking for you.
There was no easy solution to the problem when it was in PI, but there is an easy solution for AE: they could make the AE instanced a la Pocket D or Midnighter Club, so that broadcasts inside AE wouldn't be heard outside. All the folks looking to join farms would go inside and do their thing since it'd be pointless to broadcast outside. I suggested this on the forums at the peak of the AE farming craze, and IIRC, I was greeted with a huge chorus of "Hell no, horrible idea!" /e shrug. I still think it'd be nice.
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