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This isn't the first issue of the system, it's an issue with a preview of the system, that's all this issue was ever purported to be.
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Originally Posted by Alpha-One
Kinda lame though, for a system that should be giving us at least one new slot per issue, we only get half a slot in the first issue.
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Though it does thankfully have other neat stuff in it too!
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Originally Posted by Shadow State
This isn't the first issue of the system, it's an issue with a preview of the system, that's all this issue was ever purported to be.
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"Superman died fighting Doomsday because he allowed his toggles to drop, and didn't beat Doomsday before Unstoppable wore off, sad really..."
I cleared up some confusion by adding a missing patch note clause to the notes in the first post. To clarify:
In order to attempt an Incarnate TF one must UNLOCK the Alpha Slot. Without doing Mender Ramiel's arc first, the Incarnate TF can not even start with your character on it.
In order to avoid the -4 Level Debuff on an Incarnate TF, you must have that unlocked Alpha ability SLOTTED with an Alpha Boost.
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Does the Alpha Boost still work on a Master-of TF?
Yes. The "No Temp Powers" limitation on TFs does not shut down the Alpha Boost buff. No other TF/Flashback debuff affects the Alpha Ability except for "No Enhancements."
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
For a guide to all in Issue 19... .
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Zombie Man, thank you for posting this!
*Totally* helped me! I wish Mender Whats-his-face could have been this specific.
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This is the first I've seen a proper clarification on what one needs to accomplish in Recluse's Victory.|
Originally Posted by MajorDecoy
You can create a new character (skip the tutorial) and it gets bumped to 50. Then just go to Recluse's Victory and get one of the exploration badges and you can get to Oroboros to do the first mission. You don't need enhancements for the first mission, but you definitely need them for other parts of the arc, so it's a good thing that you're also given 30 million influence or infamy.
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"But everyone already knows."
Darn me and my ability to be outside the 'Everybody' light-cone. Even hit a wiki and that seemed a heck of a lot more vague than it ever was. Probably was at the wrong one @.@
Anyway... THANK YOU. I shall now explore Recluse's Victory... and not just "single handedly" (with a Heavy or I'd still be trying to scratch the first turret) win it hoping for a Victory Object of Amazing.
There Going Rogue website has been updated in multiple locations indicating that the Alpha Slot will be FULLY UNLOCKABLE in I19. Awesome, or marketing fail?
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Rares ignore 1/2 od ED!
Very Rares ignore 2/3 of ED!
Both have +1 level shifts.
The rest is the same as far as stats modification.
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Official Web Site info on Incarnate System:
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Oh you can bet I'll be working on getting to level 51. I read that correctly, right? A +1 Level Shift means you would go up a level, right?
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The game will see you as 51 so you don't have as much of a level penalty when fighting 54s but you most likely will not see a stat boost.
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Originally Posted by Robo_Knight
Oh you can bet I'll be working on getting to level 51. I read that correctly, right? A +1 Level Shift means you would go up a level, right?
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It's not a true level 51: you don't get the increased hit points. But 54s are treated as +3 instead of +4 with respect to your chance to hit, strength of debuffs, etc.
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Originally Posted by Robo_Knight
Oh you can bet I'll be working on getting to level 51. I read that correctly, right? A +1 Level Shift means you would go up a level, right?
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It might fun being level 50+ or even 50++ 
So we'd be like the enemies then? A level 50 underling is blue/-1, minion is equal/+0, liet is yellow/+1, boss is orange/+2, elite boss red/+3 and an AV purple/+4? Sounds fun to me.
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Which is still a huge boost, potentially bigger than all of the Uncommon Alpha-slot bonuses combined, except perhaps for +recharge. (There's no analog for +recharge in the relative-level scalars; everything else, though -- accuracy/ToHit, +damage, +control, +debuff, survivability -- all of those can potentially increase more from a level shift than they can from Uncommon enhancement bonuses.)|
Originally Posted by Sardan
It's not a true level 51: you don't get the increased hit points. But 54s are treated as +3 instead of +4 with respect to your chance to hit, strength of debuffs, etc.
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If it were a true level 51, then there'd be a downside to go along with the relatively minor boost in HP and damage: You'd get lesser rewards for fighting current content.
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
Nice build
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The rare and ultrarare alpha enhancements are just new numbers (which have already been decided upon) and new recipes. It seems like they will be trivial to add, be it before i19 is released or soon afterwards. I doubt we will have to wait until i20 for them.
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If true, that means even if you're ED-capped you get:|
Originally Posted by Photonstorm
Rares ignore 1/2 od ED!
Very Rares ignore 2/3 of ED! Both have +1 level shifts. The rest is the same as far as stats modification. |
+33% boosts:
Common: +9.625%
Uncommon: +14.3%
Rare: +18.975%
Very Rare: +23.65%
+45% boosts:
Rare: +25.875%
Very Rare: +32.25
I like this. This is the stuff for reference:
Cardiac:
Cardiac: 33% END
Cardiac Radial: 33% END / 20% RES
Cardiac Core: 33% END / 20% range
Cardiac Partial Core Revamp: 33% END / 20% RES, range
Cardiac Total Core Revamp: 45% END / 20% range
Cardiac Partial Radial Revamp: 33% END, fear / 20% RES / 10% range
Cardiac Total Radial Revamp: 33% END, sleep / 20% RES / 10% range
Cardiac Core Paragon: 45% END / 20% RES, range
Cardiac Radial Paragon: 33% END, fear, sleep, intangible / 20% RES
Musculature:
Musculature: 33% DMG
Musculature Radial: 33% DMG, DefDebuff
Musculature Core: 33% DMG, immob
Musculature Partial Core Revamp: 33% DMG, immob, DefDebuff
Musculature Total Core Revamp: 45% DMG / 33% immob
Musculature Partial Radial Revamp: 33% DMG, DefDebuff / 20% ToHitDebuff / 16.5% immob
Musculature Total Radial Revamp: 33% DMG, DefDebuff, EndMod / 16.5% immob
Musculature Core Paragon: 45% DMG / 33% immob, DefDebuff
Musculature Radial Paragon: 33% DMG, immob, DefDebuff, EndMod, run / 20% ToHitDebuff
Nerve:
Nerve: 33% ACC
Nerve Radial: 33% ACC / 20% DEF
Nerve Core: 33% ACC, hold
Nerve Partial Core Revamp: 33% ACC, hold / 20% DEF
Nerve Total Core Revamp: 45% ACC / 33% hold
Nerve Partial Radial Revamp: 33% ACC, taunt / 20% DEF / 16.5% hold
Nerve Total Radial Revamp: 33% ACC, confuse / 20% DEF / 16.5% hold
Nerve Core Paragon: 45% ACC / 33% hold / 20% DEF
Nerve Radial Paragon: 33% ACC, hold, taunt, confuse, fly / 20% DEF
Spiritual:
Spiritual: 33% RECH
Spiritual Radial: 33% RECH, heal
Spiritual Core: 33% RECH, stun
Spiritual Partial Core Revamp: 33% RECH, stun, heal
Spiritual Total Core Revamp: 45% RECH / 33% stun
Spiritual Partial Radial Revamp: 33% RECH, heal, slow / 16.5% stun
Spiritual Total Radial Revamp: 33% RECH, heal / 20% ToHit / 16.5% stun
Spiritual Core Paragon: 45% RECH / 33% stun, heal
Spiritual Radial Paragon: 33% RECH, heal, stun, slow, jump / 20% ToHit
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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There is no indication on the site the slot will be "FULLY UNLOCKABLE" in i19, all it says is "Alpha Slot--Unlocked in i19" which is a true statement, it IS unlocked in i19. More of an interpretation failure.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
There Going Rogue website has been updated in multiple locations indicating that the Alpha Slot will be FULLY UNLOCKABLE in I19. Awesome, or marketing fail?
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"Superman died fighting Doomsday because he allowed his toggles to drop, and didn't beat Doomsday before Unstoppable wore off, sad really..."
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If you were not in beta, would you have any reason to think "Alpha Slot - Unlocked in Issue 19" actually meant "Alpha Slot - Unlocked in Issue 19 but not with all the boosters we have shown on this very website"?|
Originally Posted by PeerlessGirl
There is no indication on the site the slot will be "FULLY UNLOCKABLE" in i19, all it says is "Alpha Slot--Unlocked in i19" which is a true statement, it IS unlocked in i19. More of an interpretation failure.
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When they say it's being unlocked, and they have a page describing what is in it, that implies that what is shown on that page is what is being unlocked.
@Quasadu
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Exactly. I they had the tree that's up now but had {UNKNOWN} in the place where the Rare and Very Rare boosts were, then there wouldn't be as much discussion about what is or isn't coming in I19.|
Originally Posted by Quasadu
If you were not in beta, would you have any reason to think "Alpha Slot - Unlocked in Issue 19" actually meant "Alpha Slot - Unlocked in Issue 19 but not with all the boosters we have shown on this very website"?
When they say it's being unlocked, and they have a page describing what is in it, that implies that what is shown on that page is what is being unlocked. |
Oh...we'd probably still complain, but we wouldn't be as concerned/upset about it.
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I know for a fact this is untrue. There has been discussion and complaining since beta started, before that site went up, about how "the full slot was in the i18/GR Beta" and therefore, the full slot has to be here, when in actuality the only parts that were in and tested were exactly what is in and tested now, the only reason anyone knew about the other enhancements was a leak on test that lead to people being able to see the entire list.|
Originally Posted by SoftRogue
Exactly. I they had the tree that's up now but had {UNKNOWN} in the place where the Rare and Very Rare boosts were, then there wouldn't be as much discussion about what is or isn't coming in I19.
Oh...we'd probably still complain, but we wouldn't be as concerned/upset about it. |
It's also possible they may release the latter half between 19 and 20, which would still make it true that "the entire slot is in issue 19".
However, unless something changes from what we've heard (roumered release on the 16th or 30th of this month) it's unlikely there'd be time to put the other half in and test it unless they're literally planning to do it tomorrow.
"Superman died fighting Doomsday because he allowed his toggles to drop, and didn't beat Doomsday before Unstoppable wore off, sad really..."
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Hmmmmm.
| Very Rare: +32.25 |
Be well, people of CoH.
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All of that is irrelevant. Someone coming in from, say, Facebook or Twitter or any other non-Forums link who has not been keeping up with beta information and sees what is on the GR website right now will see "Unlocked in Issue 19" and the details of the Alpha slot on the next page of that same website and the logical conclusion is that what is being shown is what will be unlocked in i19. There is no reason to think otherwise.
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Originally Posted by PeerlessGirl
I know for a fact this is untrue. There has been discussion and complaining since beta started, before that site went up, about how "the full slot was in the i18/GR Beta" and therefore, the full slot has to be here, when in actuality the only parts that were in and tested were exactly what is in and tested now, the only reason anyone knew about the other enhancements was a leak on test that lead to people being able to see the entire list.
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@Quasadu
"We must prepare for DOOM and hope for FREEM." - SirFrederick
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Read the non-Beta forums, see how much talk is going on from their announcement (especially about the Rares and Ultra Rares) and then come back and tell us how there isn't some misleading going on. Interpretation failure requires there to be a full disclosure. "Alpha Slot--Unlocked in i19" can mean fully unlocked as much as it can mean partially unlocked. Reading a phrasing that "could" mean one thing and interpreting it that way is not a failure on the part of the reader.
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Originally Posted by PeerlessGirl
There is no indication on the site the slot will be "FULLY UNLOCKABLE" in i19, all it says is "Alpha Slot--Unlocked in i19" which is a true statement, it IS unlocked in i19. More of an interpretation failure.
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I thought you might like that news Bill.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Hmmmmm.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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"Superman died fighting Doomsday because he allowed his toggles to drop, and didn't beat Doomsday before Unstoppable wore off, sad really..."