MASSIVELY: Issue 19 closed beta next week, release later this month!
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Posted on: 2010-10-08 15:38 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Two new task forces. These might need geometry/spawn testing.
And the (presumed) story arc to unlock the slot. Same here.
And alternate blast animations. Pretty much already handled, since the tech is already in place. Make sure nothing -else- broke with the patch.
And the Praetoria zone events. Definitely going to need testing in both Neutropolis and Imperial, not so much in Nova since it sounds like a standard "Overspawn" (ala Supertrolls) with yellow-reticle targets.
And the additional tip/morality missions. Which need about as much testing as the TFs.
And inherent Fitness. Not a lot of testing needed, since the inherent power tech has been around forever. The respec function may need tweaking/testing.
And the various other QoL fixes. I'd need a list. >.>
So I'll reiterate, but not sarcastically: Yeah, not a whole lot to test at all!
-Rachel-
You're assuming they've been sitting around doing nothing since August 17th 
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All of the systems for Epic/Patron pools were in place long before I18 and several patches later controller Mace Mastery is still broken. Just because it isn't new doesn't mean it can't go wrong.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
The Incarnate stuff is the only semi-new system - everything else already exists in the game.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Relax - it'll be fine
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They might have our Halloween stuff with i19, and need to release it in order to get the event on the live servers.
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The Halloween event will be starting some time before I19 goes live
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Not sure what you're expecting to drop on us so soon after an expansion release. What we know we're getting will be more than enough to tide us over till I20.
They have to balance giving us new tech with adding to the stuff we already have. Otherwise you've got a shallow game.
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If they had tightened up the NDA enough to stop all the details of the alpha slot coming out after it was pulled from closed beta people would have been looking at the core of I19 as 'kinda a big deal'. A delayed big deal, but still. Since people have been discussing how builds are going to change with the new slot since the start of open beta the 'ooh shiny' effect has diminished a little.|
Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
"Just more?"
Not sure what you're expecting to drop on us so soon after an expansion release. What we know we're getting will be more than enough to tide us over till I20. They have to balance giving us new tech with adding to the stuff we already have. Otherwise you've got a shallow game. |
Can't imagine why I20's NDA is different.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Relax - it'll be fine
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I'm not traumatised!
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yeah man, and all they need to do is type some code, pfft, i can type things on my computer, TAP TAP TAP, there, i just wrote a vidya game!|
Originally Posted by Steampunkette
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Seriously, it's pretty silly to dismiss all those things as trivial when we don't know any specifics, and the history of the game has shown us that there's been a trend toward making the high level TFs more complicated/challenging and advancing the tech; players enjoy breaking things in ways the devs don't anticipate; animation issues rarely work out smoothly on first pass (especially given one of the recent layoff casualties); etc. etc.
Awful lot of short memories, wishful thinking, and/or selling the devs short here, is what I'm saying.
I saw that article when it was posted. It looks like they've decided to completely remove it.
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Considering that most of the TESTING is pretty routine I stand by my statements of what needs to be tested being fairly trivial by comparison to most other issues (Save i15, which needed next to no testing compared to the others)|
Originally Posted by minimalist_NA
yeah man, and all they need to do is type some code, pfft, i can type things on my computer, TAP TAP TAP, there, i just wrote a vidya game!
Seriously, it's pretty silly to dismiss all those things as trivial when we don't know any specifics, and the history of the game has shown us that there's been a trend toward making the high level TFs more complicated/challenging and advancing the tech; players enjoy breaking things in ways the devs don't anticipate; animation issues rarely work out smoothly on first pass (especially given one of the recent layoff casualties); etc. etc. Awful lot of short memories, wishful thinking, and/or selling the devs short here, is what I'm saying. |
Not none. Not "Tap Tap woo!" but little comparatively. And if anything I'm selling the Devs -LONG- not short, since I seem to be overestimating a 60 person team's ability to bug-hunt an issue release, by your opinion.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I saw that article when it was posted. It looks like they've decided to completely remove it.
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Your mind seems to be playing tricks on you - perhaps a short period of behavioral adjustment will help cure your memory problems and make you better again?
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That beta sounds way too short. I wonder if this means they are skipping open beta?
A game is not supposed to be some kind of... place where people enjoy themselves!
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We've had the winter event debut in January before, I wouldn't assume it's December.|
Originally Posted by EU_Damz
Halloween > nov = i19 > dec = xmas event > jan/feb = i20?
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And Jan/Feb seems early for something as hush hush as issue 20, my guess is closer to April closer to the next anniversary.
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I know the feeling.|
Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
Woohoo, when can I get in... and... film...
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I was DETERMINED to finally do a comic guide again-- got pretty far along for the Praetorian one, and I figured that many of the sets and in-jokes I'd wanted to do there were generic enough to be re-purposed for I19. Even started planning and layout.
Not only will this issue be coming out rather fast, but many of my reusable jokes centered on a mock-interview with a dev thats no longer there. Eliminate everything related to that, and I'm back to a blank slate...
Well, not 100% blank, I still had this rather weak teaser idea for the next mock dev interview...
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Nobody's perfect, nobody catches everything, a group of 600+ is going to catch more things than a group of 60 (especially when many individuals within that group will be actively seeking exploits). That's just a fact, and no indictment of anyone's competence.|
Originally Posted by Steampunkette
Not none. Not "Tap Tap woo!" but little comparatively. And if anything I'm selling the Devs -LONG- not short, since I seem to be overestimating a 60 person team's ability to bug-hunt an issue release, by your opinion.
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Testing is rarely routine and rarely predictable. If it weren't, we wouldn't need betas. QE-mother****in'-D. This is how we end up with things like the Alpha slot being pulled for an entire issue.
Short. Memories.
but feel free to keep thinking the first-ever pair of 50-only TFs, designed to be extra-challenging, won't try anything new, won't need to be adjusted for difficulty/exploits, and will just boil down to "spawn points and geometry", keep tap-tap-tappin away at that
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Well that's kinda my beef with the game. Most of the adds are same old same old. Time to add some very different elements to the game. It needs to evolve.
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Originally Posted by Bubbawheat
Not really any new tech in this issue, just more. Possibly some new tech in the new TFs, and the Alpha slot might be changed from GR beta. Everything else is just more. Very awesome more, but just more.
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60 Devs, however many people they put into the beta, which is anyone's guess. If they're looking to drop it by Halloween, the beta process is going to be very short. Logic kinda dictates they don't forsee a whole lot of problems... YMMV|
Originally Posted by minimalist_NA
Nobody's perfect, nobody catches everything, a group of 600+ is going to catch more things than a group of 60 (especially when many individuals within that group will be actively seeking exploits). That's just a fact, and no indictment of anyone's competence.
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Originally Posted by minimalist_NA
Testing is rarely routine and rarely predictable. If it weren't, we wouldn't need betas. QE-mother****in'-D. This is how we end up with things like the Alpha slot being pulled for an entire issue.
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Originally Posted by minimalist_NA
Short. Memories.
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Originally Posted by minimalist_NA
but feel free to keep thinking the first-ever pair of 50-only TFs, designed to be extra-challenging, won't try anything new, won't need to be adjusted for difficulty/exploits, and will just boil down to "spawn points and geometry", keep tap-tap-tappin away at that
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And they've got 2 weeks or so in which they can test and patch away the -big- problems that, most likely, will hit the TFs. The enimation glitches will probably either be ignored (since they're cosmetic) or Non-Existent... Otherwise they wouldn't have let BaBs go.
Also! please stop with the "Tap Tap Tap" stuff. Baiting is lame.
-Rachel-
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A new game experience?
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Originally Posted by TheJazMan
Well that's kinda my beef with the game. Most of the adds are same old same old. Time to add some very different elements to the game. It needs to evolve.
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More proof the game is dying!1| While more details will be discussed at the panel tomorrow, the plan is for Issue 19 to go into closed beta next week, with the issue going to the live servers not too long after that. |
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
A new game experience?
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If you had included a winky or pokey tongue face, I might have thought you posted that in jest...
Since you did not, I must take it ultra seriously (Yes, which is like ultra mode
Taking seriousness to the next level)
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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
GG, take it back. Take it back now, please.
If you had included a winky or pokey tongue face, I might have thought you posted that in jest... Since you did not, I must take it ultra seriously (Yes, which is like ultra mode Taking seriousness to the next level) |
The Incarnate stuff is the only semi-new system - everything else already exists in the game.
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