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It's a 5th-tier television network, what do you expect, Lord of the Rings?
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
Yes. Hence the "terribly CG'd". That Darkseid looked horrible.
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"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
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How about skipping the bad CG altogether? This early all they should have shown was a figure in the shadows with ominously glowing eyes, anyway. And the later full reveal would be better served by costuming and/or makeup than those horrible CG FX. I've seen Doctor Who monsters which were apparently made out of trashbags that looked better than that CG.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
It's a 5th-tier television network, what do you expect, Lord of the Rings?
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
*shrug* Looked fine to me. I don't understand your ridiculous hyperbole.
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
What I don't get is the whole "living shadow" look they seemed to be using for Darkseid's first appearance. Okay, I get it, he's got the word "Dark" in his name, and he's this "darkness" that's coming that Clark will have to deal with. But come on! Didja have to be so literal with it?
More to the point, THAT'S NOT HOW DARKSEID WORKS!! If you're going to have Darkseid make an entrance in Smallville, you could at least just have a Boom Tube appear out of nowhere! A sudden explosion of sound and fury ripping a passage through space to deliver this mysterious new evil onto earth would be much more impressive than a bad-CG shadow slithering off from the site where the Kandorians all vanished.
There is an art, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
I'm not a fan of the smokey Darkseid either, but being that he's a god, his powers have always been somewhat varied. I mean, in some versions he's just got superstrength, invulnerability, and the Omega Beams; in others, he's got time travel and telepathy/telekinesis. Not to mention his Omega Beams are supposed to be able to do different things, from destroying life to opening boom tubes to transporting people/things across space and time.
I'll forgive the smokey entrance as long as they stay away from that sort of thing from now on. Darkseid is too arrogant for intangibility/invisibility-based powers; he wants people to know he's there and he's the one who's going to own you for the rest of your short life.
- CaptainFoamerang
Silverspar on Kelly Hu: A face that could melt paint off the wall *shivers*
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What I haven't made my mind about, was is she supposed to be the Cat Grant of the comics? Or is the Cat Grant from the "Crossfire" episode who became a TV Celebrity, that Cat Grant. This new Cat Grant mentions the other, acts nothing like the comic Cat Grant and you also find out that Cat Grant isn't even her real name. I'm confused. 
After thinking about it, I can see only one way to clear this up, the CW needs to settle this with a Cat Fight!
I had forgotten that we saw Cat Grant on the show last season. I can only assume this is a different Cat Grant or she wouldn't have needed to introduce herself to Clark and there surely would have been some discussion as to what had happened to her television show.
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." -- Dinobot
I just got around to watching it. I was pretty meh on the episode. It was very obviously just filler material.
I will say this though. In Cat they have found a person even more annoying than Lana. I desperately hope they kill her or at least evict her soon otherwise I'll be fast forwarding through every scene she is in and will likely miss plot points.
Don't count your weasels before they pop dink!
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Rewatch the episode.
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
I had forgotten that we saw Cat Grant on the show last season. I can only assume this is a different Cat Grant or she wouldn't have needed to introduce herself to Clark and there surely would have been some discussion as to what had happened to her television show.
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I may be having a false memory again... but I am quite sure I had seen/ heard/ read somewhere that the producers were saying that by season's end Smallville would (somehow, miraculously) be fully in line with comic cannon.
If that is true and I didn't just dream it, I have no idea how they'll pull it off.
Anyhow, after thinking back on this episode and the whole notion of the world needing heroes to step into the light and be a symbol of hope, I find myself agreeing wholeheartedly. When Star Trek was rebooted, they kept saying how they liked the idea of a positive, upbeat future and that it was what was needed in today's movies. I think that this is absolutely the right time for a good Superman movie, with a brightly coloured man of steel fighting against the forces of darkness and reminding us that heroic characters in the cinema still have a place beside the doom-n-gloom crew.
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Originally Posted by Mandu
I will say this though. In Cat they have found a person even more annoying than Lana. I desperately hope they kill her or at least evict her soon otherwise I'll be fast forwarding through every scene she is in and will likely miss plot points.
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Cat's point of view is a valid one... but it really feels like A. She doesn't have any valid *reason* for her opinions, and B. She's given it for the sole purpose of pushing Clark into the 'light'. She's just all 'I hate mask wearers. They have something to hide and I fear them for no apparent reason'.
Granted, I missed the first few minutes of the show... so if I missed a valid plot point, I *might* take that back.
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No, I'm not willing to subject myself to Cat again just to see that I presumably missed the conversation linking her to the previous episode.
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Originally Posted by Variant
Rewatch the episode.
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"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." -- Dinobot
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Sorry...I figured since you cared so much to post about it...I figured you might have wanted to see where they referenced it.
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
No, I'm not willing to subject myself to Cat again just to see that I presumably missed the conversation linking her to the previous episode.
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I have some thoughts on why they made Cat the way they did but I don't want to get the thread locked by going in to them. Suffice to say that I think there's some political stereotyping going on as well as the desire to push Clark to step into the light.
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Originally Posted by Rock_Crag
This. Dear GOD 10x this.
Cat's point of view is a valid one... but it really feels like A. She doesn't have any valid *reason* for her opinions, and B. She's given it for the sole purpose of pushing Clark into the 'light'. She's just all 'I hate mask wearers. They have something to hide and I fear them for no apparent reason'. Granted, I missed the first few minutes of the show... so if I missed a valid plot point, I *might* take that back. |
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." -- Dinobot
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
No, I'm not willing to subject myself to Cat again just to see that I presumably missed the conversation linking her to the previous episode.
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Now, where did that Vuvuzela batarang quote come from?
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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There's a Batman Twitter feed. I don't Twitter but it would almost be worth signing up just to follow it.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
Now, where did that Vuvuzela batarang quote come from?
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"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." -- Dinobot
Caught the episode last night. Over all, it wasn't as terrible as the premier. Even a little decent. Some things didn't make sense, but the episode on the whole held together better than usual. Still the usual amount of cheese, but oh well, it's to be expected from the CW.
Plot Holes:
1. Why would Deadshot need to blow up Cat's car to size up his opponent?
It appears he already has a lot of knowledge about his target. They know Clark has super powers, and they strongly imply they are aware he is the Blur. So why go through the trouble of sizing him up by blowing up someone's car. Especially when all he needed to do was hit him with a bullet.
That's right, he was never tying to kill Clark. Just tag him. He could have set up a situation like he did at the end of the show easily.
2. Why would Oliver just leave his captor to run free?
So the guy that beat you in an interrogation admits to having held your girl hostage. Then says she's dead, basically because of interrogating her as well. What do you do? You walk off and leave him to walk the streets and continue on his merry way.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Other smaller points of concern would be why we need a character like Cat to influence Clark coming out into the light, when this has been hinted at already. That, and Cat seeming to coming across as the spoof of the "extreme right." It's the final season, let's not ham it up with cheesy new characters.
Also, it's like there wasn't much of a premier for this show to follow up on. No more talk about this "DARK SIDE OF CLARK." It's like last week's big moral dilemma was swept under the rug.
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Dialogue missing from this weeks episode: Oliver: Hey dude, rumor on the street has it you got this dark side to deal with. Clark: Man, that was so last week. RED LEATHER JACKET! Oliver: RIGHTEOUS!!! What was I talking about? Clark: I think it was about letting criminals go. |
Seriously, why make this big new concern of the season, and then COMPLETELY ignore it in the second episode. At least let the season warm up a little before letting seasonal arcs take a break.
@Rylas
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They didn't completely ignore it. Did you catch the name of the talk radio host that Cat Grant listens to? Godfrey. As in Glorious Godfrey, one of Darkseid's lieutenants. It's Godfrey's job to turn humanity against the superheroes and that's just what he appears to be doing. So they haven't taken a break from the big season arc, it's just not really blatantly in your face.
As for Oliver letting Rick Flagg go, it's not like he has a whole lot of choice in the matter unless he's prepared to kill Flagg. It's not like there's a whole lot of physical evidence showing that Flagg kidnapped and interrogated him. It would be just Oliver's word against Flagg's and he'd have to expose himself as Green Arrow.
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." -- Dinobot
So... if we take this at face value we are left to assume that Chloe joined Checkmate, which explains why she isn't in the comics...because she is...just not as Chloe Sullivan, but rather a member of Checkmate who takes on a new Id.
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
They didn't completely ignore it. Did you catch the name of the talk radio host that Cat Grant listens to? Godfrey. As in Glorious Godfrey, one of Darkseid's lieutenants. It's Godfrey's job to turn humanity against the superheroes and that's just what he appears to be doing. So they haven't taken a break from the big season arc, it's just not really blatantly in your face.
As for Oliver letting Rick Flagg go, it's not like he has a whole lot of choice in the matter unless he's prepared to kill Flagg. It's not like there's a whole lot of physical evidence showing that Flagg kidnapped and interrogated him. It would be just Oliver's word against Flagg's and he'd have to expose himself as Green Arrow. |
Well, it's nice little subtleties like that are in the back ground. But if the main characters are acting so forgetful of it, then it's a big problem. Clark can't in one episode be troubled by his cliched and already-been-done-before dark side and then in the next episode not even mention it in passing. It's inconsistent character writing.
As for Green Arrow, he turns in criminals all the time. Or rather, leaves them tied up for the cops. With little or no evidence to give the police. What's the difference here? He wouldn't have to out himself. He'd just have to do the same thing he does for any criminal he's apprehended. Its not like he's shown up in court for the other criminals he's caught.
@Rylas
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Originally Posted by Durakken
So... if we take this at face value we are left to assume that Chloe joined Checkmate, which explains why she isn't in the comics...because she is...just not as Chloe Sullivan, but rather a member of Checkmate who takes on a new Id.
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Also, I don't think we can assume Chloe joined them. At face value, all we have is that she took an antidote for the suicide pill she reportedly took. All of it sounds convoluted enough for the writers to make up anything they need to fit whatever they make up next.
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The writers of the DC comics were going to intro Chloe into DCU canon, but something happened and then they didn't so as for now she is non-canon...however they are trying to make things sync up which means that Chloe has to vanish or die by the end of this season.
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And why the Legion of Super Heroes didn't have any historical records of her.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
The writers of the DC comics were going to intro Chloe into DCU canon, but something happened and then they didn't so as for now she is non-canon...however they are trying to make things sync up which means that Chloe has to vanish or die by the end of this season.
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Ok, I asked about this earlier and got no response. I wasn't imahining having seen/ heard/ read somewhere that somehow the series would fall in line with comic cannon?
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Originally Posted by Durakken
...however they are trying to make things sync up which means that Chloe has to vanish or die by the end of this season.
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