The 5 Most Annoying Maps & Mission Types
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Posted on: 2010-09-25 16:36 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Personally, that's one of my most favourite missions, and I'll explain why. Every time I get on a team doing this mission, I get to listen to people whine and complain like babies, ignoring my reassurances that it it'll be just fine and that I'll help them through it. Sure enough, they rush ahead and I have to mop up behind them, usually finding on average 10 mystics that they missed because they didn't look. By the end when it's all over, it's satisfying to see their bewilderment as to how this wasn't as difficult as they thought it would be this time and being unable to understand why.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Rescue 21 Magicians from the Circle of Thorns
Had this one on Carni for months and months (it was before we could drop missions), could never find the last one. After a while I just started to wish the CoT would get a move on with their damn ritual. I mean ingame they had those magicians hostage for YEARS!!! |
It's one of my favourite missions because it actually requires you to explore all those little rooms that most people just assume hold nothing of interest. There's nothing hidden in it. You just need to look.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Wow. I never thought of looking for them. Silly me. |
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Personally, that's one of my most favourite missions, and I'll explain why. Every time I get on a team doing this mission, I get to listen to people whine and complain like babies, ignoring my reassurances that it it'll be just fine and that I'll help them through it. Sure enough, they rush ahead and I have to mop up behind them, usually finding on average 10 mystics that they missed because they didn't look. By the end when it's all over, it's satisfying to see their bewilderment as to how this wasn't as difficult as they thought it would be this time and being unable to understand why.
It's one of my favourite missions because it actually requires you to explore all those little rooms that most people just assume hold nothing of interest. There's nothing hidden in it. You just need to look. |
On the plus side it may have been horrendously boring but the repeated attempts did mean I know know the spawn points for CoT maps like the back of my hand now.
The low level "defeat ten Circle of Thorns in Perez" mission; no, I don't want to fight large CoT spawns with Madness Mage bosses and me with no mezz protection yet.
The endless hunt missions heroside in the 20-24 level range. Individually most aren't so bad, but there are so many of them.
The Defeat 20 Council in the Pit mission in Sharkhead, which almost always shows up when even minions there are purple to you.
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I usually go around that by searching for a Lv50 in Pocket D and ask them nicely if they could sidekick me for a while.|
Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
The low level "defeat ten Circle of Thorns in Perez" mission; no, I don't want to fight large CoT spawns with Madness Mage bosses and me with no mezz protection yet.
The endless hunt missions heroside in the 20-24 level range. Individually most aren't so bad, but there are so many of them. |
Nothing speeds up outdoor hunts like several dozen levels' advantage over your victims.
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So you'd think, but everyone I've teamed with on this mission treated it like a rush for the boss, ignoring dead end rooms, chambers off the beaten path, corners and other locations where enemies might be, but you don't necessarily have to pass through to get to the "end" of the map. In one room my team blazed through, I found two hostages in a room off to the side that they'd have missed and then had to backtrack for, and in another I found a hostage in a hole in the ceiling.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Wow. I never thought of looking for them. Silly me.
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I've done this mission dozens of times and only had to backtrack twice, both times to locations I remembered I'd forgotten to check when I came up short. Yes, it's a long and involving process, but it's a large mission.
*edit*
That's not to be a dick and criticise you in particular. But in my experience, many people suffer for not exploring side rooms, and then go ahead to curse the missions for having them.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Missions that state to complete X. But when you complete X then you have to go back and kill everything. I ran into so many of these over the weekend. If all I have to do is stop X, and I stop X, I shouldn't have to go back and defeat EVERYTHING. Makes playing a stealth type character annoying.
Whoever designed the nazi fish farm room...I have a quesion. WHAT THE H*** WERE YOU THINKING?
No one pays attention to me, cause I listen to the voices in my head.
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I pored through the map, backtracking and exploring every (so I thought at the time) nook and cranny. If it'd been 21 glowies I'd probably have heard it as I passed as well.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
So you'd think, but everyone I've teamed with on this mission treated it like a rush for the boss, ignoring dead end rooms, chambers off the beaten path, corners and other locations where enemies might be, but you don't necessarily have to pass through to get to the "end" of the map. In one room my team blazed through, I found two hostages in a room off to the side that they'd have missed and then had to backtrack for, and in another I found a hostage in a hole in the ceiling.
I've done this mission dozens of times and only had to backtrack twice, both times to locations I remembered I'd forgotten to check when I came up short. Yes, it's a long and involving process, but it's a large mission. *edit* That's not to be a dick and criticise you in particular. But in my experience, many people suffer for not exploring side rooms, and then go ahead to curse the missions for having them. |
Nowadays of course I'd have found it pretty easy thanks to the change where it would have shown me that last damned one cowering in an obscure corner somewhere once I'd found the rest.
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I think that one is definitely on my list of least favorite missions. That map's way too huge for a defeat all, plus the multiple levels make it easy to accidentally knock a guy down a hundred feet and lose him.|
Originally Posted by Placta
My least favorite mission is from Unai Kemen's arc: Defeat all psychic Clockwork on the outdoor factory map. That map isn't suited to a defeat all, and there could not be a worse choice of enemies for it than Clockwork (flying, vulnerable to knockback, gears that run off if they get the chance).
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Originally Posted by Psycho_Sarah
Missions that state to complete X. But when you complete X then you have to go back and kill everything. I ran into so many of these over the weekend. If all I have to do is stop X, and I stop X, I shouldn't have to go back and defeat EVERYTHING. Makes playing a stealth type character annoying.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
What's so annoying about toggle auto attack and read a book/watch tv?
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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I gave up on Serpent Drummer's arc for this reason. You'd think a Tanker, even if you are Fire/Fire, would be able to handle the "Protect Lady Grey" mission, but I managed to fail it before I even cleared the room she was in. I overdid the AoE a little, and the Warhulk that spawned in the guard group proceeded to drop a triple-Vengeance Ignite patch underneath LG... who decided to just stand in it and die, since I hadn't "rescued" her yet. |
Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Multiple hostages on those outdoor city maps with a million places for them to hide. Multiple hostage with different names (so targetcustomnext doesn't work) are even worse.
Multiple blinkies on giant outdoor maps or the cargo ship map. Especially multiple blinkies that don't disappear when you click them (so targetcustomnext keeps targeting blinkies you've already clicked), and the blinkies fade in so they're hard to see. Multiple lead-outs on big maps. Any mission where I have to keep an ally alive or the mission will fail. The allies are inevitably squishy and stupid and attach themselves to the tank. Double bonus points when the mission is against Nemesis, in which case the allies are squishy, stupid, and stick to your behind like glue until there is a lieutenant to chase down and kill first. Then they do that, then resume standing right next to you. |
Then, of course, comes "rescue the Ambassadors", where the first ambush managed to run into Vengeance range of the first spawn as I was taking down the lieuteneants, and the Rikti ambassador ate a triple-Venged alpha strike from a +0/x4 spawn. Another mission failed in record time. I would have really appreciated a "Thanks, but no thanks" option for "allies" - they stand there, still vulnerable, and stay out of the hot zone.
Frankly, I don't really mind the Vengeance - a resistance tanker isn't taking that much more damage from a Venged spawn. But if I'm protecting idiotic, squishy mission objectives, it's really noticeable.
I don't mind the "Defend the Circle" mission. I've successfully soloed it a couple of times and rather enjoyed it. I think it was because I had scrappers, and I always opened up with their AOE.
I hate caves of any variety. Blue, mines, Oranbega. I won't play CoT arcs because them. The Council ones don't bother me as much.
It's funny how people mention the pancake cave room, which I despise, and masterminds. Whenever I was running paper missions on my MM, it seemed like got that one every other one. So annoying.
It's the combinations that are annoying. Kill alls on certain maps, glowies on other ones, etc.
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I'd like to know this as well. Not from a "This is hard" perspective, although it is annoying, but... what are those? I'm guessing it's not really a spa or a trout farm. Cooling tanks for the equipment? I hope that's not their drinking water with a werewolf sitting in the middle of it.
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Originally Posted by Psycho_Sarah
Whoever designed the nazi fish farm room...I have a quesion. WHAT THE H*** WERE YOU THINKING?
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Has anyone mentioned the hostage rescue missions on Oranbega, with that one piece of the map where one hostage and their guards are hiding in an optically camoflagued cul-de-sac?
Yeah, that one's a bother.
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Yes, that's the one... but this one had TWO escort objectives, which threw a monkey wrench into that "usually" thing. I kept losing track of where I'd already been, and the fact that there are like eight different floors total, that aren't all arranged vertically, did not help n the slightest.
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Originally Posted by Willowpaw
At least on that map, if it's the same one I'm thinking of (elevator to immediate right of entrance, elevator to left of closed doors, and one off to the left of the room behind the closed doors), the objective will usually be through that second vator, then at the end of the long hall where there is that ramp and small platform of doom with another closed door on the other side, behind which is where you need to get to.
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raaaaaggeee
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Originally Posted by scene_eu
oh this indeed!
That and cake cave.... With an mm... On x8 setting |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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1. Destroy the meteor and find lazurus in the Pilgrim Arc.
2. Protect the Henges from Red Caps (15min Timer).
3. Stop X amount of Fir Bolg escaping through Portal mish.
4. Anything that involves Portals and CoT.
5. Any Mish that is over 1.5miles from any train stn/Ferry.
Too many 50's to list here's a few you may know.
Slazenger, Area51, Area53, Area54, Erruption, Mind Plague, Thresher, Sheath, Broadside, Debt
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And of course that damn mission is not auto-completable either.|
Originally Posted by JohnnyKilowatt
No one brought up the Nemesis Mole Machines mission? aka "push attack buttons for an hour straight on inanimate objects."
Of course, I won't blame anyone if they purged it from their mind. |
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Originally Posted by Lucky
My mosted hated mission is save the 4 MU mystics in St.Martial so many wailers so many ambushes it gets really really hairy on bigger teams with so much -res flying around.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Am I the only person who doesn't mind the Council/5th fish farm? There are other Council maps that are far worse, like those 4-way junction rooms with a hundred tiny little corridors and stairways which are always where the blinkies are hidden.
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The layer cake room is far, far worse with all the random holes that you (and your pets) can fall through, especially as those holes become nearly invisible depending on your camera angle since all the cave surfaces are the same damn color and there are no shadows being cast to give away the positions of the holes.
The cave cake room.
The fish farm room.
The second mission from Praetor White where you rescue the 4 cops. It randomly alternates between 2 maps. One is a mostly a big block room which isn't so bad. The other is a lllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnn nnngggg series of staircases and winding hallways that the ADD cop AI struggles to follow you through.
And speaking of Praetoria, the "Surprise!" mission objectives can get annoying. For example, suddenly learning you have a glowie to find in 2 minutes on a multi-floor office maze that's also on (damage-dealing) fire? Who thought that bit of insanity was a good idea?
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'Aye, agreed.
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Originally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
My personal hell: Escort Hostages on the PTS map. Actually, ANY mission on that map. I can't quite pin down why, but I hate HATE that one with a passion.
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Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.
good luck D.B.B.
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I've never gotten the block room. That giant tunnels map is a pain in the butt to lead the cops through, yes.
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Originally Posted by Agonus
The second mission from Praetor White where you rescue the 4 cops. It randomly alternates between 2 maps. One is a mostly a big block room which isn't so bad. The other is a lllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnn nnngggg series of staircases and winding hallways that the ADD cop AI struggles to follow you through.
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
You know what puzzles me?
We have so many maps with prison cells in them yet the only missions that even use them for holding NPC prisoners are the mayhem missions and the level 30-40 vigilante morality mission. Why the heck doesn't anyone else ever think to lock their prisoners in the PRISON when it is available?
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I only ever seem to get the block room when teamed, but I don't think it's worked that way every time either.
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Originally Posted by Kelenar
I've never gotten the block room. That giant tunnels map is a pain in the butt to lead the cops through, yes.
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Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.
good luck D.B.B.
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Each prisoner needs to be assigned at least two personal guards to scowl at him while he cowers. It gives that personal feel.
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
You know what puzzles me?
We have so many maps with prison cells in them yet the only missions that even use them for holding NPC prisoners are the mayhem missions and the level 30-40 vigilante morality mission. Why the heck doesn't anyone else ever think to lock their prisoners in the PRISON when it is available? |
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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True. Nothing gives that professional touch like Hired Goons.
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Originally Posted by Kelenar
Each prisoner needs to be assigned at least two personal guards to scowl at him while he cowers. It gives that personal feel.
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Has anyone mentioned the "Protect the Glowie" missions? I just failed another one. They go out in two hits.
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For many of my toons it was 15 minutes AFK mission.|
Originally Posted by Slazenger
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2. Protect the Henges from Red Caps (15min Timer). |
New ambush is spawned only after you defeated previous.
Leave one minion from the ambush alive and if you can sustain his attacks by any means (debuffs, +def, +res, self heals, etc.) you can go afk for 15 minutes.
I actually revisited Descent 3 recently, and it's still a pretty good game, despite the fact that I'm constantly battling my ship's tenacity in auto-levelling itself, or the fact that mouse look for this game sucks on toast. The mere fact that I can come into a room look around, exit through the ceiling and come into a long vertical shaft with tunnels off the side from time to time sells me on that game. It's non-planar, and proud of it.