Pvp and Pve players don't get along to well do they, Can't we change that

I Have a Dream that all little Pvp Players and all the little Pve Players will one day get together and be friends..........Who am I kidding that never going to happen.

Why I tell you, Pvper will hunt anything in Pvp Zone, If you go for Nukes or Shivans you will will be attack.

If you go for Badges you will be hunting down and get it up the............ummm well you no what I mean.

AV Hunt in RV on a Server big on Pvp like Freedom will be Harass and Assaulted by Griefers

When these two group gets together there nothing but Drama and fighting, you can't reason with Pvpers, I should no because i am one.

What we got to do is Set things up some both can go together with out Harassing or any conflict, Badges Whores need there badges, Raid people need there Nukes and Shivan.

I Like to see like a system that either sets you up for pvp right alwayfor Pvp Zone or sets you up for Pve, so no one can kill each other any more, there been to much killing and to much blood has Spilled.

I don't no what type of System, Maybe a Flag system to flag you for Pvp, Once you enter, you be set up for pvp and if you want you can disable it so you can hunt for badges or a Queue System to join into Pvp, So there be no more Assault on each other.

Can't we all just get along.

People PvP'ing... in a PvP zone!?

ABSURD!

I don't PvP, but I don't agree with this at all. If you go into a PvP zone, you should be fair game. You are warned when you go in, if the Badge or Temp means that much to you, you just have to take the risk.

PvP is essentially a competition to see who can be the very best bully. That's not an endearing group behaviour, by any means.

You can have total PvP free PvE as long as you don't go for PvP prizes.

In a roundabout ways, I have to agree with Tenzhi. People who describe themselves as "competitive" don't just want to succeed, they want to BEAT other people. In an ideal world, that would be expressed by "power creep," as it were, where each person tries to be always better. In actual practice, a lot of the time it's expressed by wanting other people to lose as much as, if not more than, the competitive person wants himself to win. In essence, far, far too many people derive fun from seeing other people lose. Hence the popularity of the term "loser."

That's not to say anyone here is like that, obviously, but this has been my experience with people who favour competition as their preferred past time.

It is for the above reasons that I believe PvP and PvE mix like oil and water. The PvP mentality is one of pushing boundaries, winning, excelling, competing and striving. And while there's nothing wrong with that, the PvE mentality, more often than not, is one of "good enough." Granted, this isn't shared by all, but among the people I know, the point of the game, as it were, is leisure and rest from real world hardships, pretty much the opposite of competition. It's a question of finding something that works without having to actually work as you would in a real job or, indeed, a real sport. It's not a question of being the best, it's a question of having your own little escapist world where you can pretend to be the best without having to actually be that, because the game is the one that gives you the experience.

Yes, some people bring a competitive, determined playstyle in the PvE game, as well. Ask Bill Z Bubba how he plays some time. I admit that it's not all sunshine and roses. But at the same time, the PvE game doesn't HAVE to have competition unless you look for it, and that's what a lot of us like about it. On the flip side, the PvP game HAS to have competition, because that's kind of the point of fighting other players. As such, I don't think they can ever coexist, not in such a way that wouldn't alienate me or alienate PvPers.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

As to the OP, No. /unsigned.

I may hate PvP with a passion but if you want the cool temp powers or the AV fights then suck it up and deal with it. The added risk of PvP is the balancing factor to earning them.

Badges are easy to get without any PvPing just time consuming. And revenge is sweet when in Sirens and your in a spot where you can't get attacked and you happen to become the bounty.

As with the other posters, /unsigned to the OP (which has a a lot of generalizations that are not fully true, but that is another thread).

Badges are not required to play this game. Shivans are not required. Nukes are not required.

But if you want the rewards, you have to take the risks.

You can close your chat windows to avoid the chatter, you can get help from friends or other players on the server, you can go at odd hours....or you can *gasp!* actually learn some PvP tactics so for future runs you can get what you want - learn to avoid other players, get away when attacks occur, even maybe learn to win.

/unsigned!

Just as I would unsign turning the pve world into open pvp, I would unsign turning turning pvp zones into badge zones.

OP Deemed: Worthy
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

I tend to be far more interested in badging than PvP.
When I go to a "PvP" zone I'm usually there with the intention of doing something other than PvP.

But at this point I've lost count of the number of PvPers I've crushed whenever they try to pick a fight with me. Sure they get me every once in a while, but the vast majority of the time if I decide to actually engage them in PvP I kill them quickly and decisively. I particularly find it funny when a Stalker tries to backstab me and can't manage to finish me off. I sometimes wonder how good at PvP I'd be if my main alt's powerset build was actually geared for it and I took it seriously.

Anyway I realize the typical deal is that PvPers think badge collectors are whiny carebears and badgers think PvPers are annoying bullies and I know that my one particular set of experiences aren't going to change that general perception. All I can do is say that not everyone handles the situation the same. I never "cry" about PvP - I just deal with it, get my badges, and move on. I wish more badge collectors shared my attitude on this.