Where in the USA is Pretoria?

Ok, here me out. Praetoria is essentially a new New Orleans.

Here's my thinking. First, start with the description from the history, already mentioned above:

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Seems a weird place to generate power for the East Coast

Wasn't there a mention of Old San Diego someplace... in some arc... by some character...

It's one of the clues that has an annotated version of someone's background, and it mentions Old San Jose: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Robert...e_Law_Breaking

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From the Moar Power badge.

Praetor Keyes's anti-matter reactors are a boundless source of energy, once supplying all the power for the entire Eastern United States. It was their presence which led Emperor Cole to declare Praetoria City as the capital of the new world. Even at peak demand, barely one-third of the reactors' full power is needed.

I think that the mighty Emperor Cole shoved Talos Island, Striga Island and Peregrin Island together to build a new Paradise on Earth.

I was just running a Loyalty mission for Tami Baker. In the dialogue, it states:

"Tami shows you the report that TPN is running. Praetor White is speaking with many reporters about the Destroyer menace. He mentions you specifically by name. A headshot photo of you is shown in the top right corner of the screen. Praetor White explains how you were investigating the Destroyers in Nova and eliminated their main base of operations. The reporters all burst into a murmur, making clarifications that it's, 'the (hero name) of Imperial City' and not, 'the (hero name) from Old Orlando'. Praetor White specifies that it's you."

They refer to Imperial City as 'Old Orlando' in some instances, it seems. Which leads me to assume Praetoria is located in Florida.

EDIT: Upon further inspection, I'm guessing that there's suppose to be a different hero with your name, hence the clarification. Regardless, the fact that they clarify that the other hero is from 'Old Orlando', rather than saying that he is from Florida suggests that they are in that state.

Since so many characters from Paragon City are also in Praetoria, I'd assumed we were in an alternate version of PC. That giant prison-like building in Neutropolis could be a re-built Zig, and the power plant is a rebuilt Terra Volta.

I guess I'm the only one hearing the thread title to the tune of 'Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?'

Looking at Praetoria, I can easily see it being in Central Florida.

Florida is a generally flat state. The Forest surrounding Praetoria lacks any visible mountains or hills. It's mostly just a flat forest as far as the eye can see.

Florida also has a good deal of forested land, often around rivers and wetlands. A DE Touched Florida Landscape would be terrifying. Believe me.

Praetoria's Architecture (particularly in Nova Praetoria), reminds me a great deal of Florida.



And finally... For purely symbolic reasons. Florida, and Orlando in particular, is one of the most heavily modified states in existence. We have fake cities with extensive undergrounds where everyone is suppose to be happy. We call them theme parks.

Drawing the connection between Praetoria and a place like Disney World is quite symbolic, I think.


We also don't know what direction Hami went when it left Mexico. It depends on how badly it was affected. It could have gone north to California, East through Texas and Louisiana, or Through the Gulf to Florida.

Indeed. Florida is full of Planned Communities like that, because the vast majority of Florida's communities are fairly new.

In addition, Florida really is home to a Nuclear Power Plant. Though it's nowhere near as powerful as the Anti-Matter Reactors, they do still exist.

Florida is one of the most fitting locations for Praetoria, I think.

I'm in agreement that Preatoria is not even in the US. My theory, based on Tyrant's bio, is that its located somewhere in Central or South America. Global warming or nuclear winter or not, that forest out there looks distinctly tropical. The Hamidon Wars pretty much trashed most of the cities and civilization in the 70s and the surviors were forced to rebuild things again from scratch.

That and a lot of the architecture of the Praetorian buildings sort of remind me the newer buildings in some of the big cities of Brazil.

I find this whole thread quite amusing since I recently made a new character named Miss Teen Praetoria, whose bio is a modification of Miss Teen South Carolina's infamous answer.

From all the lore:

1. The DE Scourge began in South America and was heading up to the US through Mexico. It was nuked in Mexico and had no effect. States went to meet it... but we're not told *in Mexico*, though, it's easy to read it that way.

2. We're told that Praetoria was built on the site in which Cole sent Hamidon on retreat. But we're not told where exactly that was.

3. There's a story arc where an old man tells you that Praetoria is in the U.S.

4. Background on Neutropolis is that the reactors there were providing all the power for the Eastern U.S. Which would tend to point to a place east of the Mississippi River.

5. Parts of old Metropolis are called a 'Ward.' While that language and the look of the buildings would point to a New New Orleans, 'Ward' is used in many cities, including Chicago. Neither New Orleans nor Chicago would really seem be east enough for a set of reactors to power the whole Eastern U.S.

6. Palm trees = the South, right? Well, yeah, except there are palm trees in Paragon City with is definitely supposed to be Providence, Rhode Island -ish.

7. The Devs themselves may not have a particular place in mind for Praetoria.

Don't forget, it doesn't have to actually be a real city - Paragon City has been inserted into American geography, so Praetoria doesn't ened to be built on the ruins of a real city.