So even A Resistance Crusader can go Hero then?
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Posted on: 2010-08-22 15:40 in Player Questions
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On leaving Praetoria you choose where you want to go. This is true regardless of what you've done in Praetoria.
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Originally Posted by SuperDonkey
Did I get it right that no matter which way you your Praetorian Career goes (Loyalist, Resistance) you can choose Hero or Villain no matter what?
So even the Resistance Crusaders could go Hero then? |
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Lord Vetinari, Guards! Guards! by Terry Pratchett.
Correct.
And hopefully you will have some idea why you picked the path you did.
Thanks for the replies.
Well my Resistance Crusader Demon Mastermind will definitely go villain. 
Praetoria is morally complex and nuanced. There's no 'good guys' and no 'bad guys'. Just guys with different ends and different means.
As long as YOU can explain it to yourself, do whatever you care.
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Do you really think that the best Heroes are Loyalists? Really? I find that sort of bizarre.|
Originally Posted by SuperDonkey
Did I get it right that no matter which way you your Praetorian Career goes (Loyalist, Resistance) you can choose Hero or Villain no matter what?
So even the Resistance Crusaders could go Hero then? |
(Although given the puzzling amount of "heroes" who are barely one step above sith lords, maybe that viewpoint is not so bizarre as I first thought.)
compared to crusaders, yeah loyalists are heros
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Responsiblity Loyalists, mayhap.
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Originally Posted by FluffTrooper
compared to crusaders, yeah loyalists are heros
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Where did I say that I think that? Neither of the sides is really good or evil. They are both shades of grey.|
Originally Posted by NekoNeko
Do you really think that the best Heroes are Loyalists? Really? I find that sort of bizarre.
(Although given the puzzling amount of "heroes" who are barely one step above sith lords, maybe that viewpoint is not so bizarre as I first thought.) |
In my eyes who qualify best for Heroes are Resistance Warden and Responsibility Loyalist.
A Crusader could easily be a villain. Actually after all you do in the crusader Arc he definitely should be a villain.
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A man who would murder to achieve a democratic republic might become a model citizen once living in one. We might forever look at him askance, but stranger things have happened.
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Originally Posted by SuperDonkey
A Crusader could easily be a villain. Actually after all you do in the crusader Arc he definitely should be a villain.
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There is a difference between necessary murder (if there is such a thing) or just letting your inner beast roam free and kill for lust.
The way the crusader act doesn't really often make sense in my eyes. Some members in there seem to bu just murderer who hide their fetish under a good cause.
Not saying all Crusaders are bad, but following the full Crusader Story Line really has me do some more then questionable things. It's actually worse then anything I did in CoV.
So yes, my Crusader is a perfect villain for me. But this is my viewpoint of course. Other can see this differently.
Personally I think it would be better if Praetorians would start as either Vigilantes or Rogues (as I said before, none of them is really good or evil).
What happens in Praetoria stays in Praetoria.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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I think it would be best if through the storylines you take...you end up becoming a Vigilante or Rogue....not that you can't turn yourself around after a storyline...just that you end up on the path you decide through your actions. Seems a bit off for us to be able to pick whatever we want even after following one storyline that is polar-opposite of the path we choose. Like picking to go Villain after completely following the Responsibility storyline...if anything is more hero focused I'd say it's that...at least from my small glimpse at that storyline so far.|
Originally Posted by SuperDonkey
Personally I think it would be better if Praetorians would start as either Vigilantes or Rogues (as I said before, none of them is really good or evil).
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Basically I just wish it were a little more structured than it is.
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Yeah... I've got a Crusader mission right now where I'm supposed to help them drop a neutron bomb on Nova Praetoria and kill every living thing to "prove a point" if I recall correctly.|
Originally Posted by FluffTrooper
compared to crusaders, yeah loyalists are heros
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A bomb that was intended to take out Hamidon and they stole, no less.
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Originally Posted by SirFrederick
A man who would murder to achieve a democratic republic might become a model citizen once living in one. We might forever look at him askance, but stranger things have happened.
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One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.
If the Resistance's plans work and they get rid of Cole, then they would very much be heroes. Always keep in mind....history is written by the winners.
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Originally Posted by SwellGuy
What happens in Praetoria stays in Praetoria.
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Originally Posted by SwellGuy
What happens in Praetoria stays in Praetoria.
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Personally, I look at it as, you are not choosing to be a Hero or Villain. You are choosing to go to Paragon City or the Rogue Isles. If you go to Paragon City, you'd better ACT like a Hero, even if you aren't one. So if you're a murderous Crusader terrorist, or a backstabbing, tyrannical Power Loyalist, you're going undercover to sabotage these namby-pamby weaklings from the inside.
Likewise, maybe your Resistance Warden or Responsibility Loyalist decides to go to the Rogue Isles because "it feels more like home", and there's a better chance of overthrowing Recluse's lawless anarchy and bringing about positive change than there is in Praetoria under Cole's rule.
Another point is to keep in mind that no matter what you do as a Loyalist, you always have the path open to switch sides to the Resistance. And vice versa. Becoming a Hero or a Villain at the end, in your eyes, is no different. You may have some idea as to what a "hero" and a "villain" is, from your experiences in Praetoria, but it's still just picking sides.
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Did I get it right that no matter which way you your Praetorian Career goes (Loyalist, Resistance) you can choose Hero or Villain no matter what?
So even the Resistance Crusaders could go Hero then?