INF, what a joke.


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Another inspirational post for anyone out there trying to make a few INF for whatever.

The markets in CoX are crazy!

I took a toon to level 41, by that time I was just rocking regular SO's and I think I had about 4M influence, the fun level for that build dropped and I rolled another toon and just for the hell of it I wanted to see what i could turn that 4M into by just playing the market, he's now a full time auctioneer.

I bought things that moved fast(or there was alot of) and put a bid price in really low and waiting a few days (I do this with salvage) or buying a craftable recipe for cheap, crafting it and after the cost of mats and the price to actually craft it, selling it for a 300% profit or more....

To be honest, Im not even trying hard its just something I do every now and then, or I'll do a bunch of transactions if I know I wont be on for a few days.

I turned that 4M into currently 307M in about 3ish weeks, not an insane rate as some people can churn out, but for doing almost NOTHING but spending a few mins shifting through the market.

My only tip really, is patience. Have plenty of it, so many people will toss up a 100K item for much, much less, and then you can go around and sell it for 95K, that it almost feels criminal. Almost.

Keep in mind this I did this without reading anything here in the market place, but hanging around here has given me a few more ideas.

Basically, If I can do it, you can do it.

Best of luck.


 

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The markets in CoX are crazy!
Wait till Tuesday! It'll be positively mad.


Congratulations on your budding success in the market.


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Wait till Tuesday! It'll be positively mad.
Being an Opheliac myself I am quite happy about that and I usually only giggle that hard when I am about to do something... drastic.

To the OP, you are evil and destroying the game! Just wanted to be the first to say that to you, welcome to the Markets.


 

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Originally Posted by Dexterity Jones View Post
Another inspirational post for anyone out there trying to make a few INF for whatever.

The markets in CoX are crazy!

I took a toon to level 41, by that time I was just rocking regular SO's and I think I had about 4M influence, the fun level for that build dropped and I rolled another toon and just for the hell of it I wanted to see what i could turn that 4M into by just playing the market, he's now a full time auctioneer.

I bought things that moved fast(or there was alot of) and put a bid price in really low and waiting a few days (I do this with salvage) or buying a craftable recipe for cheap, crafting it and after the cost of mats and the price to actually craft it, selling it for a 300% profit or more....

To be honest, Im not even trying hard its just something I do every now and then, or I'll do a bunch of transactions if I know I wont be on for a few days.

I turned that 4M into currently 307M in about 3ish weeks, not an insane rate as some people can churn out, but for doing almost NOTHING but spending a few mins shifting through the market.

My only tip really, is patience. Have plenty of it, so many people will toss up a 100K item for much, much less, and then you can go around and sell it for 95K, that it almost feels criminal. Almost.

Keep in mind this I did this without reading anything here in the market place, but hanging around here has given me a few more ideas.

Basically, If I can do it, you can do it.

Best of luck.
You've got it all wrong, the markets are extremely difficult to learn and are extremely difficult to make money. You have to be rain man smart in order to make billions.


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You've got it all wrong, the markets are extremely difficult to learn and are extremely difficult to make money. You have to be rain man smart in order to make billions.
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To the OP, you are evil and destroying the game! Just wanted to be the first to say that to you, welcome to the Markets

That seems to be the regular sentiment with Auctioneers huh? Why is that anyways?

I'm not over at there house forcing them to undercut an item so foolishly low that it gets snatched up at that price, and then I sell it around regular price thus making 500% return...

Its not my fault I have patience and they want a quick buck.

I'm not making them DO anything, they put it up at a price they want to sell it at,and I buy it for that price and then I put it up at a price I want to sell it at. Seems like a logical sequence of events to me.

I never really understood that "Auctioneer's are evil" or ebil or whatever's the going joke, haha


 

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It's an entitlement thing. We're more successful, so that must mean they are morally superior or they would be able to be as successful. It's because they hold themselves to a higher standard that we have more money, and that allows them to look down on us.


 

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Plus there are the super secret cabals that purposefully run items up in price so that the casual players can never have any hope of being able to afford anything beyond SOs.


 

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My only tip really, is patience. Have plenty of it, so many people will toss up a 100K item for much, much less, and then you can go around and sell it for 95K, that it almost feels criminal. Almost.
Yep, patience pays dividends. It did for me, too.

Personally, my top secret (so don't tell anyone) method for destroying the game is to buy common salvage at 300 inf each (so the seller makes a slight profit over vendoring the stuff, I'm not in it to rip anyone off, even if they're begging to be ripped off by listing at 1 inf...), make up generic IO's with the benefit of the portable workbench, and then list them for sale at a price that is cheaper than buying a recipe and making it yourself at a crafting station, and has none of the faff attached.

Shocking, isn't it? I should probably be ashamed of myself for soullessly destroying the game like that, if it weren't for the pleasure I get from stroking my 'Ebil Marketeer' badge while staring at the 'You have x bought and y sold items on the consignment house' message upon logging in for 2-3 minutes to maintain sales/purchases. And then, the backbreaking labour of emailing another 100M inf off my marketeers to another alt to make space for more millions of Ebil profits...


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Sorry What's the joke?


 

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Yep, patience pays dividends. It did for me, too.

then list them for sale at a price that is cheaper than buying a recipe and making it yourself at a crafting station, and has none of the faff attached.
Ya, thats a great way to do things as well.

Sometimes you can get lucky and find massive differences between a recipe and its crafted IO (even when you factor in salvage and cost to craft) that you can net some serious profit.


 

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Sorry What's the joke?

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Plus there are the super secret cabals that purposefully run items up in price so that the casual players can never have any hope of being able to afford anything beyond SOs.
Like costume recipes. Remember that? That was awesome--no one could afford them because we were gouging like crazy people.


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a Nun, a monk, an Irishman, a Priest, a Rabbi and Police officer walk into the bar, Bartender says "What is this, the begining of a joke?"


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Sorry What's the joke?
INF is the joke- Information- when ur flat broke you can shout I lack Information to do anything with myself


 

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Originally Posted by Dexterity Jones View Post
That seems to be the regular sentiment with Auctioneers huh? Why is that anyways?

I'm not over at there house forcing them to undercut an item so foolishly low that it gets snatched up at that price, and then I sell it around regular price thus making 500% return...

Its not my fault I have patience and they want a quick buck.

I'm not making them DO anything, they put it up at a price they want to sell it at,and I buy it for that price and then I put it up at a price I want to sell it at. Seems like a logical sequence of events to me.

I never really understood that "Auctioneer's are evil" or ebil or whatever's the going joke, haha
It's misplaced anger or frustration on their part. They are hating the player, when they ought to hate the game. The marketplace was designed, whether intentionally or not, to encourage players to do exactly what you're doing.


 

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No, you're in your right to hate the game. However, you can hate it while still learning it and beating it at it's own rules.


 

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Inf is a joke, and at this point so is the market, I think now with H/V merits, the only thing I will be needing off the market is salvage. You can make 3 H/V merits every 2 days at the end of the month thats 45 merits at the end of the month, between 3 toons that is a full set of purples, 3 PvPs, or a plethora of sets and uniques.

Yeah, those high prices in the market now will only appeal to the impatient.


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...assuming it takes 10 minutes to do a tip mission, and 20 minutes to do a morality mission, and you don't get bored, ever, that's 2 hours of playtime per H/V merit. Assume you can do 50 merits of TF's in an hour. So that's 3 H/V merits in 2 days for 4 hours of play. Between 3 toons that's 12 hours per 2 days. Or 180 hours a month. (or a little over 40 hr/week, to put it in job terms.)

So, yeah, you can avoid paying market prices by putting in 60 hours per PVP IO. Your definition of "impatient" and mine may differ a little.


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The market prices will adapt to the new supply. The only reason the prices were so high before is because there was a large demand and a very limited supply. You dump a bunch of new ways to get things into the game, and prices drop as the new supply trickles in. The effect is already visible on a number of items.


 

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Assume you can do 50 merits of TF's in an hour.
Maybe you can, but by definition, for the average player it's more like 20 per hour. How does that affect your figures?

Anyway, heffron's right - more supply (from people putting stuff bought with new merits on the market) and reduced demand (from people getting stuff for their own characters from merits rather than the market) should lower prices.


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Um. I think he was choosing an impossibly high number to illustrate why there will still be demand for these recipes on the market. He was pointing out to the poster above him how much of a time investment is involved with trying to generate 3 alignment merits every 2 days with 3 characters.

If you have to spend 2.5 hours running TFs for 50 merits and an hour on average on tips / morality missions, ever day, every character, and assuming you're going to make 60M a day doing that content without spending any merits, then you're putting in 2 hours 20 minutes per Alignment Merit. You're talking about playing 10 hours a day at 20 merits per hour, even assuming everything else is fast.

Point is, there is "impatience" and there is "efficiency." If you're going to put 70 hours a week into this game, you're better off buying it on the market.


 

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like I probably can't do 10 minute tip missions
Ive had several tip missions that lasted under 5 minutes. Hell, one mission was "arrive, crush 3 mobs, leave". It took longer for me to zone then it did to complete the mission.

That is balanced by the 35 minute "plunder the ether plane" mission. Dam you Bocor!


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Ive had several tip missions that lasted under 5 minutes. Hell, one mission was "arrive, crush 3 mobs, leave". It took longer for me to zone then it did to complete the mission.
And tip missions are still relatively new. Before long people will know which tips can be speeded, and as tips are common and can be dropped without penalty then the slower missions can be easily skipped.


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