GR and Accolades


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Just curious will the Hero and Villain Accolades stack?

Atlas Med., Freedom Phal., Port. Jock., TF Command, stack with Born in Bat, High Pain, Invader, Marshal?

Because that's some serious HP and End bonuses. Would make me only want to play Rogue/Vig and not Hero/Vill.


 

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I beileve they said "no", but you can get the badge.


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Ok but how would it work then?

If you earn a Hero Accolade first are you only going to be able to earn hero ones?

Or is it when you're a Hero/Vig you can use the Hero ones and when you're a Vill/Roug you get to use the Vill ones?


 

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Originally Posted by GPBunny View Post
Just curious will the Hero and Villain Accolades stack?

Atlas Med., Freedom Phal., Port. Jock., TF Command, stack with Born in Bat, High Pain, Invader, Marshal?

Because that's some serious HP and End bonuses. Would make me only want to play Rogue/Vig and not Hero/Vill.
You can't get both sets, i think you can only get one, depending on if you chose to be a hero or a villian.


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If I were the programmer, I'd make the power grey/inactive on the other side. That would prevent them from stacking. It would also make you re-earn certain powers if you switch, but that's the price you pay for switching sides. haha

Or, if we wanted to be more "fair", they would simply allow us to keep our accolades after switching, and allow us to earn all the badges, but the accolade powers themselves would be blocked if you already earned the other version of it from the opposite side.


 

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Originally Posted by GPBunny View Post
Just curious will the Hero and Villain Accolades stack?

Atlas Med., Freedom Phal., Port. Jock., TF Command, stack with Born in Bat, High Pain, Invader, Marshal?

Because that's some serious HP and End bonuses. Would make me only want to play Rogue/Vig and not Hero/Vill.
It was mentioned in passing that accolades and badges with an equivalent on the other side will be switched when you switch sides, eg. Marshal = Atlas Medallion, Unbroken Spirit = Relentless. Badges and accolades without an equivalent (eg. most of the exploration badges) will be kept when you switch.


 

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Originally Posted by GPBunny View Post
Ok but how would it work then?

If you earn a Hero Accolade first are you only going to be able to earn hero ones?

Or is it when you're a Hero/Vig you can use the Hero ones and when you're a Vill/Roug you get to use the Vill ones?
I'd say the one you get first, but that's a guess.


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Just curious will the Hero and Villain Accolades stack?
Why do players ask questions they KNOW cannot be answered because of NDA? It happens every single closed beta. If someone knows, they cannot answer you. You'd be far better putting this question to the developers instead of asking other players who would risk not getting invited to another closed beta if they did answer.




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Why do players ask questions they KNOW cannot be answered because of NDA? It happens every single closed beta. If someone knows, they cannot answer you. You'd be far better putting this question to the developers instead of asking other players who would risk not getting invited to another closed beta if they did answer.
Maybe he/she asked because they were afraid they missed the details from a Q&A or some other announcement. No need to get in a bunch over it.


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Maybe he/she asked because they were afraid they missed the details from a Q&A or some other announcement. No need to get in a bunch over it.
Well I'm sure that if there were details from a Q&A or some other announcement that it would be talked about in the Badges & Gladiators section, and nothing like that is happening.




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Why do players ask questions they KNOW cannot be answered because of NDA? It happens every single closed beta. If someone knows, they cannot answer you. You'd be far better putting this question to the developers instead of asking other players who would risk not getting invited to another closed beta if they did answer.
Ok I'll answer you.

No I didn't already KNOW that was covered by the NDA. Since so many "facts" have leaked out or been hinted at in so many different formats. What sparked the question was a member of my SG was doing the Atlas Med. and it just started the conversation. I figured that maybe someone did already know and could share that knowledge.

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No I didn't already KNOW that was covered by the NDA. Since so many "facts" have leaked out or been hinted at in so many different formats. What sparked the question was a member of my SG was doing the Atlas Med. and it just started the conversation. I figured that maybe someone did already know and could share that knowledge.
It is safe to assume that any information that is official would be found in one of two places: The Developers Digest and The Community Digest.

It is also safe to assume that any release of official badge information will be posted to the Badges and Gladiators section of the forums almost as soon as it is revealed.

In fact I fully expect a lot of information will be revealed next week with the San Diego Comic Con.

As to people asking questions during closed beta it happens a lot. I really feel for those in the closed beta as I am sure that they would love to be able to answer everyone's questions about the new content. If they did, they would risk getting kicked out of beta, and that isn't fun for anyone.




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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
It is safe to assume that any information that is official would be found in one of two places: The Developers Digest and The Community Digest.

It is also safe to assume that any release of official badge information will be posted to the Badges and Gladiators section of the forums almost as soon as it is revealed.
I think it's also safe to assume that not everyone is as forum savvy as the all-knowing, lacking-in-patience, Snow Globe. So when they ask a question, a reasonable one at that, in the Player Questions forum, they don't need to be reprimanded and beat over the head for asking a good question.


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It is safe to assume that any information that is official would be found in one of two places: The Developers Digest and The Community Digest.

It is also safe to assume that any release of official badge information will be posted to the Badges and Gladiators section of the forums almost as soon as it is revealed.
So, the OP would have to make certain assumptions and then search three forum sections. Or, just maybe, they could do something crazy like post in the correct forum section and see if the information was available.


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So, the OP would have to make certain assumptions and then search three forum sections. Or, just maybe, they could do something crazy like post in the correct forum section and see if the information was available.
Or they could just not be lazy and do a search. I mean that is what the search function is for after all.



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Originally Posted by GPBunny View Post
Just curious will the Hero and Villain Accolades stack?

Atlas Med., Freedom Phal., Port. Jock., TF Command, stack with Born in Bat, High Pain, Invader, Marshal?

Because that's some serious HP and End bonuses. Would make me only want to play Rogue/Vig and not Hero/Vill.
Based on the fact Epic Pools don't allow for copies of the same power from sets, it stands to reason you will not be able to stack the accolades. They are the same powers with different names and requirements.


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Based on the fact Epic Pools don't allow for copies of the same power from sets, it stands to reason you will not be able to stack the accolades. They are the same powers with different names and requirements.
This would be my guess as well. As i recall accolades and many other badges that have faction specific names were set up well over a year ago so that the displayed name is based on your faction. While some badges are/were restricted to either hero or villain the various accolade powers are identical on both sides and it's just the displayed badge name and unlocking requirements that differ.

So the accolade powers are the same power whether you're a hero or villain with the displayed badge for the accolade/power based on your faction regardless of how it was originally unlocked. Once you have the power unlocked it doesn't matter if you meet the unlock criteria a second time since it points to the same power. (Sort of like how i get the "Epic Archetype Unlocked" message every time i got another alt to 50 (err, now it's 20) even when they are one of the Epic ATs.)

At least that's how i think it works. It's been a couple years since i recall reading the discussions about accolade powers.


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Or they could just not be lazy and do a search. I mean that is what the search function is for after all.
The search capability on these forums blows.


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It's a heck of a lot better than it use to be. Now if people will use proper tags, that'll help considerably.


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Ok I'll answer you.

No I didn't already KNOW that was covered by the NDA. Since so many "facts" have leaked out or been hinted at in so many different formats. What sparked the question was a member of my SG was doing the Atlas Med. and it just started the conversation. I figured that maybe someone did already know and could share that knowledge.
The information in question is not covered by the NDA. It has been stated in the open forums by a developer that accolades will not stack. Instead, what will happen is that if you switch sides, any accolade power will be replaced by its opposite-side equivalent (all heroic accolade powers have a villain-side equivalent, and vice versa).


 

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I've got to admit it. I don't "search" the forums for answers that I know are in there "somewhere". I've found that when I do search, I get about 20 to 40 links and the time to click and read through all those is more than I care to waste. If I have a question about future game details, I'll ask it here. Player questions. I'm a player, I've a question, I'll come here.
The majority of the folks who respond are typically quite knowledgeable and seem to enjoy posting, as they usually have a large number of posts to their credit.

Now, Snow, I know that your question was rhetorical. You weren't actually expecting an answer. And I can understand your exasperation, wondering why people aren't using the forums the way they should and could. The simple answer is that some folks just want an answer. They don't want a lesson in when to use quote marks in the search field and when to use and/or.

Some of us would rather play then post. To each his own.

But, as a fellow who's been raked over the coals on the forums before, gotta think hard before asking rhetorical questions!

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Now, Snow, I know that your question was rhetorical. You weren't actually expecting an answer. And I can understand your exasperation, wondering why people aren't using the forums the way they should and could. The simple answer is that some folks just want an answer. They don't want a lesson in when to use quote marks in the search field and when to use and/or.
Thanks for understanding why I posted what I did. I mean it happens every single closed beta. The longer the beta, the more of this type of question happens. Sometimes, like the original poster here, the intent is to see if there is something that they've missed. Other times the intent is to troll (some PVPers have a strange idea of "fun"). For some of us that are using the forums, all these posts just add to the noise.

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Some of us would rather play then post. To each his own.

But, as a fellow who's been raked over the coals on the forums before, gotta think hard before asking rhetorical questions!
Yeah, I hear you.




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The information in question is not covered by the NDA. It has been stated in the open forums by a developer that accolades will not stack. Instead, what will happen is that if you switch sides, any accolade power will be replaced by its opposite-side equivalent (all heroic accolade powers have a villain-side equivalent, and vice versa).
Can you remember which developer?




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Well GPBunny, if you are in the Loyalty Program, you will likely have your answer fairly soon:

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Please bear in mind that this is only a pre-download for all of you who have taken part in the Loyalty Program that ran between August 15th and November 15th, 2009.

Access to the Closed Beta servers will be effective from Thursday, July 22nd, 2010 on. Participants will be receiving a Beta invitation and their access to the Closed Beta forums will be enabled on the same day.

We know you've been eagerly waiting for this particular phase of the Closed Beta to start and thank you for your patience with this.


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