Why make a scrapper when you can make a brute?

As others have said I think Scrapper-only powersets and playstyle preferneces will always keep plenty of Scrappers around. I don't like chasing Fury and vastly prefer have better instantaneous damage with a scrapper. By that I mean, if I step away from the keyboard to do something else I know I can come back and do full damage to the next mob, or take my time going from mob to mob with no loss in damage, or stealth a mission to a boss with no loss in damage. If I want to go all scrapper-lock kill frenzy mode, then I accept I will be slightly less effective than a brute doing that. It's a trade-off I am happy to make.

Same reason why there will always be both brutes and tanks. Some people just prefer one over the other, even though they can do similar functions.

My three favorite ATs are scrappers, brutes and stalkers. What can I say? I love melee. That said, there are distinct reasons to play each one. Aside from game mechanics and technical reasons, each has a different playstyle and feel.

I guess the reason you might still make one is similar to the reason people play Martial Artists: not everyone is obsessed with being at the absolute maximum DPS/survivable/OMG indestructible cap. Some people just like playing the game because it is fun.

I'd be curious to see an expirement on who actually runs missions faster, brutes or scrappers. Perhaps we should time ourselves running 3 back to back Borea missions at various levels of difficulty. I suspect we'd find that it has much more to do with who's driving then what toon is playing... but in general, if the same player is driving, scrappers will finish quicker due to a faster start and very little difference in top end kill speed.

because a Lamborghini could never be made available at the same price - i.e. its comparing apples to oranges. Id play a scrapper cuz I want a hero, not a nasty, scummy rotten to the core villain!
Unless I'm playing redside. Then I play a villain cuz i dont want to be a nose in the air, goody goody two shoes sappy hero!
Only those who play simply for min/max will care about the damage difference.

Exaclty the question is not relevant when asked to the community as a whole. There cannot be one right answer that stands true both for the min/maxer crowd and for the "what's Mids ?" crowd.

However it's relevant when asked to oneself only, and there personal preference can easily make the balance weight more on one side or the other, because it's not like the difference is huge.

But it's a fact, as very soon we'll have both ATs available to both sides, we'll have more questions like "Brute or scrapper for my X/Y combo ?" on the boards. And it will be easier to answer that, as depending on the combo there can be obvious advantages to roll it as a brute or scrapper.

I think we need a fourth melee AT. A Scruter.

edit: fifth. lol @ over-saturation.

I didnt really understand it until I rolled my DA tank. Bear with me.

I joined a group that had another tank. They asked who wanted to lead it, and everyone said "Lol Dark". One guy started in about how Stone Armor is soooo much better than everything else and how I was stupid for rolling DA. I told him stfu, and I have a 50 stoner that I hate.

I then proceeded to make the other tank look like complete garbage.

Just because numbers say one should be better doesn't make it so. And that is why scrappers will still be damned popular when GR comes round.

I have a number of brutes, I play them like tanks. Really pissed off tanks that want to kill everything in sight and aren't terribly worried about the people using him as a meat shield.

I love my scrapper because no one expects me to tank with him. Plus he has a sword.

Personally, I think the real question should be "why make a tanker when you can make a brute" a few skittles and my brutes have Tanker level resistance to go with the tanker level hp, but they kill a lot harder.

I am not asking that question tho. I did that a long time ago and got a lot of people all pissy.

Instead, I ask: Why make a brute when you could make a tanker?

A tanker will always be more survivable than a brute. If you want to tank, then it's a no brainer. One is numerically superior to the other.



The answer to the OP's question is simply "What do you want to do?"

Do you want to scrap? Or do you want to brute?

Top Seven reasons to make a Scrapper instead of a Brute

7. You need your other sword hand free to give your foes the finger.

6. Quick Recovery before level 4 is just too painful.

5. Eagle's Claw. Just, Eagle's Claw.

4. Having a mag 3 PBAoE fear just seems too much like cheating.

3. Having Fury and perma-Rage on the same character is cheating.

2. Perverts my six-slotting of Brawl from an ironic statement to min/maxing.

1. Impossible to realize my character concept: Nuclear Urchin.

I blanked out when someone said that scrappers can take a break........... that worries me, over 6 years and it turns out I could have taken a break....... not sure when, maybe in between missions while people were loading? Surely not while anything was still standing?

Here it is, guys... the big question. Has it been asked before? Probably. Has it been answered in full? Not that I know of. So, it's still on the table.

What advantages does a Brute have over a Scrapper? Scrappers have about the same amount of HP and do more damage. On top of that, if we're imagining, say, a brute vs. scrapper PVP match, the Scrapper will kite so the Brute can't build Fury and spike it down with criticals before the Brute can make much headway. In PVE, the damage differences are huge, and the Scrappers can keep that damage 24/7, lazy or active.

Once Going Rogue hits, will Brutes be obsolete? Should I delete my level 24 elec/*? Which TASTES better, cake or pie?!?

When it comes to Brutes, they really have only one major advantage.

Powersets. Brutes have access to Super Strength, and Stone Melee, sets that would be absolutely mindbogglingly good in the hands of Scrappers. In terms of actual damage, Scrappers and Brutes are relatively even. Brutes Fury mechnanic is countered by Scrappers higher base damage, which means any damage buff is more effective on a Scrapper, then a brute.

But brutes skew the tables a little bit by having access to overpowered sets like SS and Stone, but thats not because of the Brute itself, but because of the set.

I love to run SFs.

I intend to make a scrapper to run these. I think that the scrapper will be able to generate more damage more quickly because I shouldn't have to wait on fury to build. In theory I could be able to cut a minute or two here and there on some of the kill boss (and his minions) objectives

This is a funny thread. Scrapper and Brutes have all had their advantages discussed pretty well. I would say that if I was running a ITF or LGTF and I was FORCED to pick between a brute or a scrapper (assuming the builds were relatively similar in terms of IO's and such), I would take the brute. Why? Brutes can tank easier than the average scrapper. OK, dodged a tomato there, close one. My scrapper, like many of yours can tank too. Some would say why not just get a tank then. Well, why get a tank when you can have a brute? The logic goes on, so the debate is question is somewhat pointless. I think tanks will have a mild decrease in the population however unless the mission content becomes so difficult it requires a capped tank for the team to survive (like STF, hami raids, a few other etcs...)

Why make a scrapper when you can make a brute? Here are 12 reasons for me.

(1) Katana on my female toon looks dead sexy with the animations. <awaits thong costume piece>
(2) Eagles Claw animation FTW. Yummy
(3) Random crits are like little rewards. It's a psychology thing here.
(4) Regen on scrappers is all melee has for PvP blueside. (ducks a chair being thrown at head by pvp community).
(5) I can get up and pee and not worry about losing fury. Peeing when you need to is always a plus.
(6) The vanguard katana looks like a lightsaber, but sexier than the broadsword lightsaber.
(7) Martial Arts is the most comic book looking power since energy blast.
(8) People don't ask me if I am a tank by mistake as a scrapper.
(9) My female toons don't look bruttish enough. She Hulk smash? Meh, not my bag baby.
(10) Nostalgia. My first lvl 50 was a scrapper. I always figured my last lvl 50 would be a scrapper one day too.
(11) I can turn into a little ball of spikey death with a scrapper. Quills sounds do cause fury however on the other side of the screen.
(12) Why not?