How to buy IOs...for FREEEE!!!
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-06-15 09:53 in The Market and Inventions
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Originally Posted by Lohenien
This is a nice simple concept to IO toons for free:
Find the IO you want and then look up it's recipe. Let's say you pick something that costs 20 million crafted and say 8 million for the recipe. With salvage thrown in the IO costs say, 11 million. Next, bid on 10 of the recipes and 10 of each of the salvage ( should total 110 million in this example). Come back later that day or the next day ( or when ever they all fill) and craft all 10 of the IOs. Now sell 9 of the IOs for 14,xxx,xxx so that any bids at 15 million or higher should buy your IO. 9 x 15 = 135 million, 135 - 13.5 = 121 million influence. 121 - 110 = 11 million profit PLUS the IO you saved for yourself. ( note any sales above 15 million that you get would be even more profit). Using this method you can get most of your IOs for free and even make influence on top of that to eventually buy the ones that don't have huge margins between crafted and recipe. |
Edit: Thanks for breaking the market xD
I don't see how paying for the IOs makes them free but maybe I'm old-fashioned.
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Well, its like this Recipe = 9 mil, Enhancer form = 15, buy more. keep 1 for yourself sell the rest for 15 mil and you got your money back its actually a niffty tactic if your one of those 2bil+ inf players
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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
I don't see how paying for the IOs makes them free but maybe I'm old-fashioned.
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This sounds more like a description of how to earn enough money to buy things, since there is no "free" anywhere in the process. But, yes, if you have investment capital, you can make money.
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It's basically reasoning that if you want an IO chances are so does someone else and in many cases the crafted IO can be sold at a profit. Someone (Fulmen's maybe?) used to recommend buying two of any IO, slotting one and selling the other. This is pretty much that taken to the extreme. Personally I'd avoid crafting 10 of any IO unless I knew for sure I could re-sell them at a profit.
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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
I don't see how paying for the IOs makes them free but maybe I'm old-fashioned.
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I do high volume sales like this all the time, it's how I've acquired 20+ billion. You can scale up or down on how many you buy, you could get just enough to cover the cost of one IO to earn ~20 million and hence make the one IO you kept "free".
I am an ebil markeeter and will steal your moneiz ...correction stole your moneiz. I support keeping the poor down because it is impossible to make moneiz in this game.
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rsclark said| its actually a niffty tactic if your one of those 2bil+ inf players |
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It takes a couple of business cycles to get to 100 million from nothing, but I did it last week just so I could make this conversational point. I'ma do it again this week.
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Two things: #1 False advertising. Nothing in this process is free, you are just running a business and taking a cut for yourself. You still have operating costs.|
Originally Posted by Lohenien
This is a nice simple concept to IO toons for free:
Find the IO you want and then look up it's recipe. Let's say you pick something that costs 20 million crafted and say 8 million for the recipe. With salvage thrown in the IO costs say, 11 million. Next, bid on 10 of the recipes and 10 of each of the salvage ( should total 110 million in this example). Come back later that day or the next day ( or when ever they all fill) and craft all 10 of the IOs. Now sell 9 of the IOs for 14,xxx,xxx so that any bids at 15 million or higher should buy your IO. 9 x 15 = 135 million, 135 - 13.5 = 121 million influence. 121 - 110 = 11 million profit PLUS the IO you saved for yourself. ( note any sales above 15 million that you get would be even more profit). Using this method you can get most of your IOs for free and even make influence on top of that to eventually buy the ones that don't have huge margins between crafted and recipe. |
#2: This is also risky. I have tried this strategy and taken a huge (as in multi-hundred million inf) loss as I went with frankenslot fodder no one else wanted. This ONLY works for IOs that sell, not for everything you want. Just a recommendation, don't waste your time using this strategy on stun sets other than purple and stupefy, or any of the sleep sets, etc.
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this happened to me too. I bought a huge load of obliterations, thunderstrikes, and positron's blasts (the price was high for a long time, like several months), and suddenly there was a huge crash in price. For months the prices were bottomed out. Not until recently when prices have started to climb again. That stuff was clogging up my slots for a while tho, since I listed high and didn't want to lose all those listing costs.
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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
#2: This is also risky. I have tried this strategy and taken a huge (as in multi-hundred million inf) loss as I went with frankenslot fodder no one else wanted. |
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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
don't waste your time using this strategy on stun sets other than purple and stupefy, or any of the sleep sets, etc.
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I can't understand why my Enfeebled Operation stock won't move! It's reasonably priced!
I will no more accept that this process is free than I will accept that "you're" is a possessive pronoun. Words have meaning.
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Oh sure, it's definitely a valid strategy. But a lot of IOs will take a long time to sell the other 9. Often you're better off financing the purchase by selling a different IO from a more popular set.
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Originally Posted by Lohenien
I do high volume sales like this all the time, it's how I've acquired 20+ billion. You can scale up or down on how many you buy, you could get just enough to cover the cost of one IO to earn ~20 million and hence make the one IO you kept "free".
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Originally Posted by graystar_blaster
takes money to make money
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I only get 2 of em, but yes, they make great starting points to make money. I also figured everyone knew by now how to make money with actual crafting and marketing...
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Originally Posted by mintmiki
more like 3 large insps from the tutorial
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Originally Posted by mintmiki
more like 3 large insps from the tutorial
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Occasionally I look at the differential between the price of a recipe and its corresponding crafted item, and realize for the umpteenth time that running missions is a sucker's game in terms of making money.
Of course I still do it, because I like running missions. But I'm not kidding myself about the economic efficacy.
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The key when you do this is to make sure you're not stepping on the feet of whomever already "owns" that niche. Thats why stuff like Thunderstrikes and their ilk is relatively safe. Its so high bulk nobody owns it. If you try and take for example Perf Shifter +end proc from the person who "owns" that niche they'll Market PvP you by crashing the price for a while to make you pull yours out of the market. Once you leave (and trust me they can count how many they have out there and know you left) they'll move the price back up.
I'm using this IO as an example because I know for the last 2 mos the recipe was more expensive redside than the crafted enhancer. To market PvP the person back I of course moved the 5 IOs I had listed to one of my alts on Triumph and made the other person cut their profits for a while.
But yes this stacks of 10 is a valid strategy for making oodles of infamy and influence. I probably have made 65B of my roughly 100B doing it (another 30B popping purples and 5B doing currency exchanges).
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Originally Posted by rsclark
I will no more accept that this process is free than I will accept that "you're" is a possessive pronoun. Words have meaning.
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Originally Posted by Lohenien
This is a nice simple concept to IO toons for free:
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My mortgage isn't free simply because I make more money than it costs...
Silly people and their technicalities. Yes it takes money to get this to work, but in the long run it will ultimately have a net cost of 0 or even have a net profit. Also it doesn't work for every single IO out there, but that's when you pick one that does turn over well and use that to fund your odd ball choices.
I am an ebil markeeter and will steal your moneiz ...correction stole your moneiz. I support keeping the poor down because it is impossible to make moneiz in this game.
Enyalios: you can always buy up the underpriced, crafted ones and relist them higher.
Gavin Runeblade: How many frankenslot IO's do you have to invest in, before noticing none of them are selling, to lose hundreds of millions? By my math, that's like a hundred. . .
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use common sense regarding which recipes to get multiples of and you'll do great with this system.
And with the avalanche of MA recipes I'm playing around with lately I'm finding that there are a lot of "garbage" recipes that will actually sell quite briskly for several million if you bother crafting them. I found one sort of off-brand defense set recipe last week that was selling for peanuts and bringing in 5 million crafted. So I picked up 10 for nothing, picked up the salvage for nothing, crafted the lot and as of this morning have sold 7 of them for about 40 million.
Not super efficient, but I wanted to see if it would work.
I imagine there are lots of these little pockets of profit in amongst the "junk" recipes in the game.
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This is a nice simple concept to IO toons for free:
Find the IO you want and then look up it's recipe. Let's say you pick something that costs 20 million crafted and say 8 million for the recipe. With salvage thrown in the IO costs say, 11 million.
Next, bid on 10 of the recipes and 10 of each of the salvage ( should total 110 million in this example). Come back later that day or the next day ( or when ever they all fill) and craft all 10 of the IOs. Now sell 9 of the IOs for 14,xxx,xxx so that any bids at 15 million or higher should buy your IO. 9 x 15 = 135 million, 135 - 13.5 = 121 million influence. 121 - 110 = 11 million profit PLUS the IO you saved for yourself. ( note any sales above 15 million that you get would be even more profit).
Using this method you can get most of your IOs for free and even make influence on top of that to eventually buy the ones that don't have huge margins between crafted and recipe.
I am an ebil markeeter and will steal your moneiz ...correction stole your moneiz. I support keeping the poor down because it is impossible to make moneiz in this game.