Or is it just me?

I've been playing cov for a long time now, 50 month vet, and I'm still wondering about how the drop rate for purples, and pvp recipie's work.

I know you have to be killing lvl 50 baddies to get the purple drops, and i do, that's mostly all i kill, lvl 50+ but i don't get the same drop rate for purples as others. I do at least one ITF a week, and when i do someone on the team always gets a purple recipie, but never me. I heard someone say you get one every 12,000 kills or so, so I started counting. I got up over 15,000 without looting one, and i stopped counting there. i've probably killed more than twice as many since i stopped counting, and still nada. I have 12 lvl 50 toons, and since the invention of purples, i have looted 4, and all of those were near the begining of when they were first available. My wife, 40 month vet, has gotten 4 in the last 3 weeks. I have looted 1 pvp recipie since they came out, and again, that was near the begining of when they were available.

was just wondering if it's just me? am i doing something wrong, or have i just fallen through the cracks?

What do ya'll think?

Thanks,
Z

The Random Number Generator is random.

First off, you can get purples off of anything that can drop level 50 recipes. So, I believe that a level 48 enemy can drop them, but they will always be level 50 recipes. So, if you want to take out more enemies faster, drop your level of difficulty to -1, then tack on more mobs by making yourself equal to more players.

Secondly, let's say you're solo, and it is one out of every 12,000 kills. That means, that if you kill 12,000 enemies, chances are that you should have gotten a drop (though this is by no means guaranteed).

Now, if you're on a team of 8, and you kill 12,000 enemies, then your chances of getting a purple drop are 1/8th of what they were solo. This is because the game determines if a drop was, well, dropped. Then it gives an equal chance for everyone on the team to get that drop. So, if a drop gets rolled, and you're on a full team, you only have a 1/8 chance to get it.


As such, your best chances to get a purple are when you're solo. However, you might not kill as quickly that way.

Ha! beat ya!

It's completely random, or as random as a computer generated algorithm can get.

The "every 12,000 kills" is an average, not a guaranteed number. You could get 2 in a row, or you could go years without getting one. If you're over 15,000 kills, by the law of averages you're probably due for one, but that doesn't mean you'll get one.

And you don't have to fight level 50 enemies to get one, anything level 47 and up will drop them. Basically anything that can drop a level 50 common IO can drop a purple (since common IOs only come in multiples of 5, it rounds up at level 47 and down at level 46, so 46's won't drop purples)

And I kid you not, my friend and I, on separate occasions, both scored 3 purple drops on LGTFs. Random numbers are like-woah-random.

What's auspcious about my friend is that he got 3 (THREE) Apoc Dam/Range on one LGTF. Not just 3, but 3 identical ones.

My mind never recovered from that explosion when it blew.

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What if we started dupin them?

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Has anyone ever tried doing a collective data-mine to determine the drop rate? Or is 12,000 just a random guess?

rng works like this from what I was told by a programmer


example a coin flip

heads or tails its 50%-50%

each flip.

So somewhere in the universe someone has flipped 10,000 tails in a row without a heads at somepoint


so the 1/12,000 rng is 1 in 12,000 each kill, and, not if u kill 15,000 u get one. Its not like lets say a spedometer where when u go 12,000 it resets to zero


its actually a 1 in 12,000 chance each time u kill anything that is capable of dropping a purple recipie

hence the rareness and also thats why its sucks when u get one and its a confuse or a sleep set.


enjoy

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Keep in mind that computer random numbers are usually seeded, which makes some likely to have a sense of inertia, depending upon the seed source and the implementation.

Having worked in the gambling industry on slot machines, I can very much assure you that the random number generator is random. (As close to random as possible, in a computer driven algorithm.)

I don't care if the drop rate is 90%, you could still kill 15,000 enemies and not see a drop. It's bloody unlikely, but it could happen.

One other important thing to be noted, although it sounds about as dead obvious as they come: Do be sure you leave room for recipes in your inventory.

Commons and now the temp powers fill up fast, and if you're farming and not really paying attention, well, you won't get the purples with a full inventory.

I remember being on an ITF and someone mentioning while we were fighting in the valley of lag-death that they never get purple drops. On the first mission they had mentioned being full and needing to vendor. So we asked, had he. Nope. Don't be that guy if you want purple drops (or any drops for that matter).

I did about 410 PVP kills to get the badge recently and got zero recipes.

It was Hero on Hero violence in Warburg so the big rng guy must not like that.