SG/VG Renaming... Please?
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Posted on: 2010-06-02 04:57 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
There is a suggestions sub-forum, yes. I wholeheartedly support your suggestion, as I'm sure many others do as well. I'd also like to see further SG management options such as merging, as well as offline promotion/demotion.
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I am for it--even if for a real money fee.
Though I think another inf sink would be nice too.
While I wouldn't mind the ability to change a few of my SG names (Ones I inherited) I'm gonna take the other side for the sake of discussion.
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| SGs carry names forward that can become simply inappropriate to their members. |
1. Many if not most SG's are comprised of many members and they may not agree with changing the name.
2. People also get into stupid, petty arguments and someone in authority might use a name change to anger another party. Hell the forums has already seen one person who decided to quit the game and he kicked every member out of his large SG and deleted everything just because he could and he wanted to be a jerk.
3. Sometimes real life issues interfere with game play and leadership may fall to someone that isn't as trustworthy as members thought and being able to change the name would mean he could kick everyone and steal the SG and all it's aquired loot for himself.
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| It takes a long, long time to build a base when there's only a few, or even one, active member. |
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| We shouldn't have to abandon the old SG and its base just to gain a name change: we never get all that prestige back, or the stored goodies on the cluttered shelves. |
Now this is just a flat out falsehood. You don't need to abandon an SG because you don't like the name anymore.
An SG can easily be used as a secure bank/storage facility and members can each leave a single character in it to serve as bankers/mules. You can use the email system to safely transfer things into and out of storage while the new SG is being built up.
People also regularly buy and sell SG's to other players. Sometimes they even hold sales here on the forums. Simply sell the damn thing and use the Inf to buy prestige for you new SG.
Edit: Deleted following incorrect statement "Hell a storage SG doesn't even have any rent because storage bins don't incur a rent fee."
I have a solution.
Let's say I inherited a SG, however do not care for the name. I go to the City Hall Register and plop down the (inf) or heck even rl money for the change and enter the name I wish for the SG
Now for the next two weeks when a member logs in (1 vote per global account), they are prompted with an option to "vote" Yes, or No on the name change / new name I choose.
Votes are to be tallied then by the amount of time/prestige that global account has earned that SG.
After two weeks time if enough votes have been cast in favor the new name goes into effect, if the majority says no then the money is refunded back to me and the name remains the same!
(Also I would love to see the mission computer converted into some sort of Bullitan Board System for the SG)
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Yes they do. That IS what the rent fee is based on: number of storage bins.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
. Hell a storage SG doesn't even have any rent because storage bins don't incur a rent fee.
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But, an old SG probably has a lot of prestige to spare. If anything, sell off things that are no longer going to be used, like most of the medical equipment or even the medical room itself. Remove the teleporters or cut down on the number of them. This will also allow the amount of energy and control devices to be cut.
I've inherited a few SGs. I would like a name change option for SGs, but I can see the problems with that and won't mind if such an option is never implemented. I suggest making it cost prestige to change the name, even if 1,000,000 to make it a very serious thing to do for a group to decide (enough with real money costs
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As the surviving member of a Hero SG and a Villain SG whose other members haven't logged on in 3 years, I totally suport this suggestion.
I'm the only one left there and, at least for the Hero one, I'd like to change its name.
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While I don't need this feature, I'd vote for it, as well.
What I *really* would love is the ability to invite my own characters into my solo SGs.
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Originally Posted by Gaming_Glen
Yes they do. That IS what the rent fee is based on: number of storage bins.
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Originally Posted by Gaming_Glen
Yes they do.
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Thanks for the link. I thought it was JUST storage bins. Time to delete some work tables in my solo SGs as I can always edit them back in when I want to use them.
This is such a good idea I don't even care it was originally posted in the wrong subforum.
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The voting system might be too much dev work <shrugs unknowingly>|
Originally Posted by Ravenous33
I have a solution.
Let's say I inherited a SG, however do not care for the name. I go to the City Hall Register and plop down the (inf) or heck even rl money for the change and enter the name I wish for the SG Now for the next two weeks when a member logs in (1 vote per global account), they are prompted with an option to "vote" Yes, or No on the name change / new name I choose. Votes are to be tallied then by the amount of time/prestige that global account has earned that SG. After two weeks time if enough votes have been cast in favor the new name goes into effect, if the majority says no then the money is refunded back to me and the name remains the same! (Also I would love to see the mission computer converted into some sort of Bullitan Board System for the SG) |
But the mission computer or something else left so we could leave messages would be fantastic.
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Just give the option to change names to the 'Super leader' rank (or whatever it's called) that they implemented a while back. Chances are he's the founder or at least the current owner of the SG, so he gets the final say.
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Originally Posted by Disappearing Girl
The voting system might be too much dev work <shrugs unknowingly>
But the mission computer or something else left so we could leave messages would be fantastic. |
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Originally Posted by TrueMetal
Just give the option to change names to the 'Super leader' rank (or whatever it's called) that they implemented a while back.
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1) The superleader has ultimate control - both in fact and per official policy.
2) Even if there was a vote involved, the superleader could just canvass the members in advance and kick anyone who wasn't in favor.
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I'd pay up to a bil inf for name change ability
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So you're willing to pay $20 bucks real money.
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Originally Posted by all_hell
I'd pay up to a bil inf for name change ability
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Yeah, prob'ly, but I'd rather see a big-*** inf sink
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
So you're willing to pay $20 bucks real money.
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I've inherited a couple of SGs myself and I'd love to be able to merge them and/or change their names.
I even have a plan for how it could work. You should only be able to merge with a group in your coalition. The merger should have to be approved by both Super-Leaders. To merge, rename the child group to the same name as the parent group. The parent group will retain its Super-Leader, its base and its Prestige. The child group will lose its Super-Leader and its Base. The child group's prestige will be added to the parent group's total.
Logically, a supergroup should have to pay with Prestige to change the name. Prestige is the fame and power of the group, after all. If a group changes name it should lose some fame.
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While I don't mind an inf sink, the problem with making it too high is that the only people who will be able to afford it will be the serious marketeers. So if the sink is gonna be that steep there should be an alternative available for the more casual players.
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Originally Posted by all_hell
Yeah, prob'ly, but I'd rather see a big-*** inf sink
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Then there won't be an inf sink. If "casual players" can get away with something that doesn't cost anything, the marketeers can do it too. It's not like marketeers don't know how to play the game. Probably thousands of percents better than casual players.
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I understand that. I'm just saying that if the feature is going to have a cost then it should be within the grasp of all types of players.
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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
Then there won't be an inf sink. If "casual players" can get away with something that doesn't cost anything, the marketeers can do it too. It's not like marketeers don't know how to play the game. Probably thousands of percents better than casual players.
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It should be a Prestige cost. If a SG can't afford the Prestige cost it's probably not worth the effort of saving it: abandon and reform it.
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Firstly - I have a feeling this is in the wrong place; I'm sure that there used to be a specific spot on the forums for player requests/suggestions, but can't find it anymore. So, in here it goes:
Well, I'm a player, and I have a base. Can I change the name of the SG it belongs to?
Now, things change. Circumstances change. People move on. SGs carry names forward that can become simply inappropriate to their members. So PLEASE can someone on the Development team say that there are moves afoot to anable us to rename our SG/VG ? It would be a small step to take, surely, but one of enormous value to the playerbase. It takes a long, long time to build a base when there's only a few, or even one, active member. We shouldn't have to abandon the old SG and its base just to gain a name change: we never get all that prestige back, or the stored goodies on the cluttered shelves.
How about it? I've seen the new GR video where everyone bangs on about how the devs love up to us cash-monkeys... I mean, actively listen and respond to the playerbase...
Please?