Mother Mayhem Info Up on GR Site
The bios are good, particularly the seers. Good sense of Praetoria as a fascist and evil society that, however, is well meaning.
But isn't Shalice Tilman supposed to be 80? This isn't like Hami, it's a specific first name. As for how she has the same name as a DC character, that sounds like a convenient excuse to change her name, which sounds ridiculous.
I want both of them in Praetoria, so it better not be. They're some of the better characters in CoH game story.
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Hmmm... Ever notice HOW the GR updates are being doled out?
Calvin Scott fights against Praetoria and the Ghouls Marauder's role is to fight against the Syndicate (and the Resistance) Mother Mayhem is the leader of the Seers I bet the next update will feature Neuron and the Praetorian Clockwork! Who's sensing the pattern? |
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I've seen them - and right now, I think the witch top is the most relaistic chest available in the game - but it's just too witchy for normal costumes
Have you looked at the Witch tops or some others like the tank top? Its more shading than geometry, but they look closer to Mother Mayhem's chest than most of the other tops do. From the screenshot, I can't tell if Mother Mayhem has any really distinct geometry, or if her chest appearance isn't mostly just clever shading as well.
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I don't really mind if Mother Mayhem's chest is geomety or texture - I just need it to be made available for us
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Now here would be something, Blood, imagine Sister Psyche in the new Mother Mayhem's outfit, or some variation.
Edit: @ Golden Girl: a bit of costume advice I can give you it to combine the Witch bare top with say Martial Arts 1 robe or casual blazer and other such low-cut over tops to give the look of a nicely Buxom lady without a Witchy look.
Finally: "No Distinguishing marks" I see two. ... Yeah it was already done, but still.
Edit: @ Golden Girl: a bit of costume advice I can give you it to combine the Witch bare top with say Martial Arts 1 robe or casual blazer and other such low-cut over tops to give the look of a nicely Buxom lady without a Witchy look.
Finally: "No Distinguishing marks" I see two. ... Yeah it was already done, but still.
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The Seer network would mean she'd be aware of anything like that - and the writer of the report would be re-educated
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That still doesn't let me have a normal looking chest in a normal looking superhero outfit - like it won't work with the spandex/tights options.
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Just about every name you can think of has been used for some minor or failed character somewhere in the annals of comic history. "Venture" was the name of an Image Comics super whose book lasted about six issues, IIRC. I'm not expecting to be asked to change my main's handle any time soon.
Oh, and "Mother Mayhem" has been a character in this game since Issue 1. You are rather more than a bit late to the party if you have a problem with the name.
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okay, you have a point there.
That still doesn't let me have a normal looking chest in a normal looking superhero outfit - like it won't work with the spandex/tights options.
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To be honest, it's always bugged me how female tights/chest options mold to each breast as though the fabric was either built over a bra or painted on.
I mean, I'm a guy, but even I would have preferred the female tights/chest options behave as though they're made from actual fabric, like the armored, shirt, robe, and jacket options. Okay, the latter three are a bit of a stretch (no pun intended) at larger chest sizes, but for the most part they can be valid examples.
(I admit this partly has to do with the fact that I prefer to dress all my female toons modestly except for a few cases, in which case I live up the outrageousness for all its worth.)
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Tights and Tops with Skin are, in fact, painted on. Literally. Shirts, Robes, Jackets, and such are actual geometry. But tights and tops with skin are basically body paint.
okay, you have a point there.
To be honest, it's always bugged me how female tights/chest options mold to each breast as though the fabric was either built over a bra or painted on. I mean, I'm a guy, but even I would have preferred the female tights/chest options behave as though they're made from actual fabric, like the armored, shirt, robe, and jacket options. Okay, the latter three are a bit of a stretch (no pun intended) at larger chest sizes, but for the most part they can be valid examples. (I admit this partly has to do with the fact that I prefer to dress all my female toons modestly except for a few cases, in which case I live up the outrageousness for all its worth.) |
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Which is fine for arms, legs stomachs, backs and so on - but it really becomes a problem with chests, because tight clothing in RL just doesn't react like that on real chests - that's why I think Mother Mayhem's chest is using some special costume part, and not just a texturing trick, because I really don't see hhow a texture on a spandex/tights top could remove the separation we get right now on our avatars.
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Still not a fan of those super long boot toes (like the witchie ones), but the rest looks nice! More costumes, please!!
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Its really hard to tell because the screen shot has her arms crossed and the other shot is from directly straight on. The witch top is also just a texture but it doesn't look like it from straight on and I could see modifying it to look basically like Mayhem's top. Don't get me wrong: if its an actual geometric top I'd love to be able to use it, but I'm just not sure from the visual evidence we have if it really is a radical change in geometry yet.
Which is fine for arms, legs stomachs, backs and so on - but it really becomes a problem with chests, because tight clothing in RL just doesn't react like that on real chests - that's why I think Mother Mayhem's chest is using some special costume part, and not just a texturing trick, because I really don't see hhow a texture on a spandex/tights top could remove the separation we get right now on our avatars.
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And on the subject of new costume parts, the hair style is also new and I wouldn't mind having access to that, and there's also a hint of a new headpiece I don't recognize. There is a flash of white on both sides of Mayhem's head that is too high to be ears or anything like that. It almost looks like it could be some sort of silver band running behind her head, perhaps some sort of psionic doodad, something like what the Seers wear.
Hmm. I seem to recall that it was said Praetorian Earth doesn't have a Clockwork King. I wonder if that is because Mayhem is the Praetorian equivalent of both the Clockwork King and Vanessa Devore, and actually in some way both control and feed on the Seers. That could explain their short lifespans. And why there is no Clockwork King: on Praetorian Earth Mayhem has basically either destroyed or taken over most of the psionic minds powerful enough to either be a psionic master or a psionic servant.
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I liked the boots till I saw this and then look at the toes I'm not a fan of the long toes too, but rest looks great
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To me it looks like a stylized laurel wreath, it could be a symbol of her status as a Praetor.
And on the subject of new costume parts, the hair style is also new and I wouldn't mind having access to that, and there's also a hint of a new headpiece I don't recognize. There is a flash of white on both sides of Mayhem's head that is too high to be ears or anything like that. It almost looks like it could be some sort of silver band running behind her head, perhaps some sort of psionic doodad, something like what the Seers wear.
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because that's how it works in the comics. That's why superhero tights do. Leave reality at the door
Which is fine for arms, legs stomachs, backs and so on - but it really becomes a problem with chests, because tight clothing in RL just doesn't react like that on real chests - that's why I think Mother Mayhem's chest is using some special costume part, and not just a texturing trick, because I really don't see hhow a texture on a spandex/tights top could remove the separation we get right now on our avatars.
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Was thinking much the same.
I see the chronology of Primal vs. Praetorian Earth continues to get more garbled. We've been told Primal Shalice Tilman is over 80 years old, while Praetorian Tilman seems to be substantially younger (or would be, if her body were still alive). Don't even get me started on how Praetorian Hamidon appeared several decades before Primal Hamidon.
These things wouldn't bother me if I thought they were concious story decisions by the devs, but I'm pretty sure that they're just more examples of not checking the story bible for inconsistencies before adding pages to it. Still, some nice background stuff. |
Assuming both Shalice versions are of the same age, then we're looking at characters at least dating to 1930, and seeing as Shalice has been referred to "over 80" since the start of the game (I assume), then her birth might be closer to 1920. That said, Praetorian Shalice, battles in the Devouring Earth wars, joins Cole, and later receives her Praetorship at age 22. Does that mean then that the Hamidon Wars were in the 1930 or possibly 1940s? If so, apparently there was no WWII, like Prime Earth knew it, and therefore was no 5th Column?
Something sounds really off.
Okay. Name me a superhero comic, where the tights didn't form fit to the characters body?
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