Lost - SERIES FINALE! - 5/23/10
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Posted on: 2010-05-23 05:14 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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..That was one of the most unique and beautiful endings I've seen, and it wasn't unique enough for you?
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Originally Posted by Night_Caster
I see your point, but the ending did not fit the uniqueness of the show. They could have used any narrative to get to this ending about "friendship through survival and the strong bonds that are made through such experience" i.e. soldiers in war. This show did not answer the questions, for me, that made the show unique like the origin of the island, the mother of the island, etc...I just felt that the ending, which is generic and can be applied to any long running drama, did not do this unique show justice. I am done venting and chances are will not read anymore about this, in order to keep the little bit of sanity I have left...good day.
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OK, so if the Sideways world was just where everybody met up to go to the afterlife ... then where the frack did David come from? Jack and Juliet never hooked up in the Real world?
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He was a construct. He was part of the "perfect"-ish world that they created as a means of meeting each other.
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Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
OK, so if the Sideways world was just where everybody met up to go to the afterlife ... then where the frack did David come from? Jack and Juliet never hooked up in the Real world?
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I have been thinking of that.|
Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
OK, so if the Sideways world was just where everybody met up to go to the afterlife ... then where the frack did David come from? Jack and Juliet never hooked up in the Real world?
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Obivously, that plane of existance allows for its users to construct some of its world. So Jac'ks father issues manifest in David, he did have romantic feelings towards Juliet, so that pops up as his ex-wife, etc.
Remember how, in the Matrix, the machines tried to perfect the world and human rejected it? So they created the same exact world as we live in now? The sideways was like that, except the humans created it themselves, in a way.
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That makes absolute perfect sense, thank you Dark One!
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Originally Posted by Dark One
He was a construct. He was part of the "perfect"-ish world that they created as a means of meeting each other.
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Originally Posted by Talia_Rayvyn
That makes absolute perfect sense, thank you Dark One!
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Anyone else not getting to watch the Jimmy Kimmel show right now? They've got two episodes of Two and a Half Men on right now where I'm at (central time)
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It just started here. A full hour for news.
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Anyone else not getting to watch the Jimmy Kimmel show right now? They've got two episodes of Two and a Half Men on right now where I'm at (central time)
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Grrr..it's not even listed at all for me. After Men there is an episode of Boston Legal, and then an old episode of Lost.
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
It just started here. A full hour for news.
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Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
Wow. I haven't watched Lost so I'll admit I'm not getting most of what everyone is saying. But if I have picked up anything from your conversations then it sounds like to me that the writers of Lost ripped off the ending to Ashes to Ashes LOL
On Friday of this week the series Ashes to Ashes ended on the BBC. Ashes to Ashes was the continuation of the original series Life on Mars with John Simm and Philip Glenister. The last episode this Friday finally 'revealed all' about Gene Hunt (Philip Glenister's character) and just what was going on with the show. The series of AtA started with a police woman Alexis Drake being shot in the head by a criminal and when she woke up she was in 1980. Inside her dream world was Gene Hunt who was also in the dream world of Life on Mars when policeman Sam Tyler was hit by a car and woke up in 1973. Both series revolved around the main characters Sam in Life on Mars and Alex in Ashes to Ashes finding out where or when they were and how to get home.
This Friday we learned that the entire world both Sam and Alex inhabited was the constructed dream world/reality of the secondary main character Gene Hunt. Gene was a police officer who died back in the 60's but refused to cross over to the next life. He felt that he could help others that were like him that were either angry with their passing or had unfinished business that prevented them from passing over to the afterlife. So Gene fashioned himself a new persona and took it upon himself to shepherd any police officers whether they be male or female in this world he constructed. He would let them play out a new life in his reality/limbo and when they got the confidence they needed or worked through the unfinished business that was holding them back then he would let them move on to the next world. Unfortunately if there is an angel in that world there is also a devil. In Life on Mars it was the 'Test Pattern Girl' and in Ashes to Ashes it was a rival Internal Affairs officer named Jim Keats. He tried to break their confidence in Gene and if he could tempt them to join his 'department' which was reached by a long elevator shaft heading DOWN with faint screams of agony ever so subtly just out of earshot.
But at the end of the episode when Gene won out and defeated Jim Keats and redeemed his team's faith in him the surprises weren't done. It turned out that Alex wasn't the only person in that reality that was from the real world. Her colleagues that worked with her in the CID (Criminal Investigations Department) were also souls of police officers that had died in life and been sent to Gene's reality. The problem was they had been there so long they had forgotten why they were there. Alex helped them with Gene to remember and in the end they finally left and 'crossed over' to the next plane. But wait it got EVEN better. Come to find out Alex who thought she was in a coma from the bullet and could go home to her little girl after she helped Gene and the rest of the team had her own truth to face up to. Come to find out the WHOLE time from the start of the show she wasn't in a coma... she was dead too. She could never go back home and be with her daughter which is what she was fighting for the whole 3 years because she was stone cold dead. Gene was reluctantly forced to get her to accept the truth and she decided to move on to to the afterlife.
Now. BBM and the rest of you guys and gals... does this sound at all familiar with the way Lost ended or somewhat?
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Same here. Memphis?
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Anyone else not getting to watch the Jimmy Kimmel show right now? They've got two episodes of Two and a Half Men on right now where I'm at (central time)
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Anyone else not getting to watch the Jimmy Kimmel show right now? They've got two episodes of Two and a Half Men on right now where I'm at (central time)
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I'm in the midwest, and only had a half hour news, so the JK show is almost over for me.
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Yes and no. That's how the subplot of this season ended, but not how the narrative ended. I think that is what is polarizing people.|
Originally Posted by Lord_of_Time
Wow. I haven't watched Lost so I'll admit I'm not getting most of what everyone is saying. But if I have picked up anything from your conversations then it sounds like to me that the writers of Lost ripped off the ending to Ashes to Ashes LOL
On Friday of this week the series Ashes to Ashes ended on the BBC. Ashes to Ashes was the continuation of the original series Life on Mars with John Simm and Philip Glenister. The last episode this Friday finally 'revealed all' about Gene Hunt (Philip Glenister's character) and just what was going on with the show. The series of AtA started with a police woman Alexis Drake being shot in the head by a criminal and when she woke up she was in 1980. Inside her dream world was Gene Hunt who was also in the dream world of Life on Mars when policeman Sam Tyler was hit by a car and woke up in 1973. Both series revolved around the main characters Sam in Life on Mars and Alex in Ashes to Ashes finding out where or when they were and how to get home. This Friday we learned that the entire world both Sam and Alex inhabited was the constructed dream world/reality of the secondary main character Gene Hunt. Gene was a police officer who died back in the 60's but refused to cross over to the next life. He felt that he could help others that were like him that were either angry with their passing or had unfinished business that prevented them from passing over to the afterlife. So Gene fashioned himself a new persona and took it upon himself to shepherd any police officers whether they be male or female in this world he constructed. He would let them play out a new life in his reality/limbo and when they got the confidence they needed or worked through the unfinished business that was holding them back then he would let them move on to the next world. Unfortunately if there is an angel in that world there is also a devil. In Life on Mars it was the 'Test Pattern Girl' and in Ashes to Ashes it was a rival Internal Affairs officer named Jim Keats. He tried to break their confidence in Gene and if he could tempt them to join his 'department' which was reached by a long elevator shaft heading DOWN with faint screams of agony ever so subtly just out of earshot. But at the end of the episode when Gene won out and defeated Jim Keats and redeemed his team's faith in him the surprises weren't done. It turned out that Alex wasn't the only person in that reality that was from the real world. Her colleagues that worked with her in the CID (Criminal Investigations Department) were also souls of police officers that had died in life and been sent to Gene's reality. The problem was they had been there so long they had forgotten why they were there. Alex helped them with Gene to remember and in the end they finally left and 'crossed over' to the next plane. But wait it got EVEN better. Come to find out Alex who thought she was in a coma from the bullet and could go home to her little girl after she helped Gene and the rest of the team had her own truth to face up to. Come to find out the WHOLE time from the start of the show she wasn't in a coma... she was dead too. She could never go back home and be with her daughter which is what she was fighting for the whole 3 years because she was stone cold dead. Gene was reluctantly forced to get her to accept the truth and she decided to move on to to the afterlife. Now. BBM and the rest of you guys and gals... does this sound at all familiar with the way Lost ended or somewhat? |
In essence, the subplot (the flash-sideways) was just another form of a flash-forward. We were seeing what will happen (from the vantage point of the main narrative). Eventually all these characters will go to that place and be reunited. But they all will lead different lives until that point.
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Must be your local ABC affiliate.|
Originally Posted by MentalMaden
Same here. Memphis?
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I'm also in Central time and mine's playing Jimmy Kimmel. We had a half-hour of news prior, then Jimmy at 11.
As to the alternate endings...meh. I was hoping for some actual different endings, not spoofs or such.
Also, glad I didn't buy the individual seasons. That complete collection looks neat. It's already up on Amazon for $150ish as a preorder.
Did anyone else get digital break up during the show? Both video and audio distortions happened a couple of times.
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Did anyone else get digital break up during the show? Both video and audio distortions happened a couple of times.
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yes, I got that same thing in the last segment.
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Umm...I see it differently. The entire series was a flashback. To me, the part in the church was the Now, not that "Now" means a whole helluva lot in that timeframe.
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Yes and no. That's how the subplot of this season ended, but not how the narrative ended. I think that is what is polarizing people.
In essence, the subplot (the flash-sideways) was just another form of a flash-forward. We were seeing what will happen (from the vantage point of the main narrative). Eventually all these characters will go to that place and be reunited. But they all will lead different lives until that point. |
Yeah my local has news, 2 episodes of 2.5 men then Boston Legal then an old Lost.
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
Same here. Memphis?
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Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
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Oh I see so everybody basically got a preview of where they are all going to end up together. But each individual person will take their own path getting their.
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Yes and no. That's how the subplot of this season ended, but not how the narrative ended. I think that is what is polarizing people.
In essence, the subplot (the flash-sideways) was just another form of a flash-forward. We were seeing what will happen (from the vantage point of the main narrative). Eventually all these characters will go to that place and be reunited. But they all will lead different lives until that point. |
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Memphis represent! |
Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
yep
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Have you seen any of Memphis Beat yet? They were handing out mini disks at the BBQ fest that had the first 20 minutes of the pilot on them. It's a pretty good representation of Memphis.
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Hmmm, good interpretation. Can't argue that.|
Originally Posted by Dark One
Umm...I see it differently. The entire series was a flashback. To me, the part in the church was the Now, not that "Now" means a whole helluva lot in that timeframe.
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Originally Posted by Lord_of_Time
Oh I see so everybody basically got a preview of where they are all going to end up together. But each individual person will take their own path getting their.
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Except that ending was stretched out to 17 hours, and we (and the characters) didn't know that was going on until near the end.
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