Going Rogue has an early release in Australia?

I would have freaked out personally

Got to love stories like these!

And y'know what? That sorta thinking is why this world doesn't have Heroes.
Because people are too damn worried about getting sued, or themselves getting hurt, or some BS like that.

Would I have run out to help if I had been a member of that class? I like to think so.
One guy on my own, yeah, I would have second thoughts. Thats a built in reaction. But if theres a chance of doing something that is inherently right, why shouldnt people act?

Good on them, I say.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

He just had some faith in his teachings and students. I like to call it confidence in what one believes in.

It's Australia. Macho is every man's middle name, there, apparently.

Mandatory by law.



S.

I would say the instructor should certainly act with his students, but anyone, regardless of his level of training, is an idiot if he fights three people at once, assuming he doesn't have to. So to say he should have handled it alone is absurd.

Also, pretty much every martial arts instructor I've ever had has tried to instill in his students a sense of responsibility and that they have a duty to act when they see something like this happening, so...

It's summer, you upside-down Aussie!

Plus, most martial arts teach how to disarm someone with a weapon.

and back from work.

ok first off, i am not criticising the fellow for acting, i am criticising the fellow for telling his students to put themselves at risk, that was stupid and irresponsible. heroes are fine in comics and pretend, but this is the real world where criminals have weapons and can kill people. Responsible teachers consider this before telling his students to put them selves at risk of being killed or seriously injured. if he went in saying "whoever wants to come, come with me" and those same guys came with him, then great for him, but telling your students to act, but is being an irresponsible teacher. send them to call the cops, have them get descriptions of the muggers, fine, but you do not put your students in harms way because you have a superhero fantasy. People who know me know that I would have intervened myself, it would be my choice for myself, if i were with my friends who had trained at the same martial arts school that i studied and assisted instruction at after getting my dan, or my friends with military or police training, i would hold myself to the same standard. if you want to come, you are welcome but i do not have the right to abuse my authority as a marital artist nor as a friend to put you in danger.

and yeah thorny, most styles do integrate weapons training into them, but here is a dirty secret, a lot of students arent combat ready, even if they mechanically know the moves. you keep training them, hoping that eventually they put together the intangibles and develop the instinct to be able to defend themselves if they are at risk and cannot retreat, but some people are there because its fun, some want to win medals, and some want to lose weight. Of the guys who went to dan testing with me, i can think of about 2 other guys that legitimately wanted to learn to be effective in a fight, and talking to other local martial artists, both in traditional and mma settings, that is consistent. seems silly, but this is the world you deal with. not everyone is going to be in a fight, i have gone nearly 2 decades without being in a fight that wasn't a sparring match, most people arent going to have to use their training, which is good all things considered.but the best you can do is continually drill them with the mechanics and theory and hope that even if they dont have their heads around it, that they have the mechanics drilled into their muscles. maybe this guy knew that these guys were his trusted inner circle of actual fighters, but as a former assistant instructor myself, that just screams stupid, irresponsible jock behavior, and had these guys had some concealed weapons and killed these guys who weren't ready for when things get real, then would we still be looking on approvingly?

Yes.
And do you know why?
Because they had the damn guts to stand up for something right in this damn world.

We all too often here these reports of 'Person murdered in plain sight, neighbours looked on', and 'Person killed in alley despite cries for help' and stuff like that. All too damn often people go "Oh, I should just ring the police," or "Oh dear, someome else will srot it..."

Do you know which news story made me feel the happiest? A pair of thugs over here in blighty were robbing a TV store on sunday, in broad daylight. Typical smash and grab, with a pair of freaking sledgehammers and wearing balaclavas. And people were just walking on by, or staring for a bit before doing...nothing.
One old man, seventy something odd, walked right up to them and tore the first guys balaclava off. Despite the fact he was seventy. Despite the fact there was two of them. Despite the fact they had freaking sledgehammers.

And the pair of them bolted for it. And you know what? He didn't even do it for 'recognition' or anything. When the Police were trying to question him he simply said "I did it because it was right. Because someone had to do it. And now I have a bus to catch," which he promptly got on, like it was just a normal day.

This world has too many cowards, too many people who scream about sueing people and calling the cops. In all honest, I can partially understand the cowardice, because I dont pretend to be the bravest man alive.
But when people have the guts to stand up and fight against injustice, that is something to be applauded. Even if they fail, its the effort they made and the moral behind it that counts.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

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SUPPORT - IT'S NOT JUST A GROUPING OF ATs
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Did you know it's still actual law that English people practice with the Longbow on...think it's sunday? At least one day a week, or something like that.
I tell you what, a modern day UK Longbow division would be pretty damn effective. Bows are still pretty dag nasty weapons.

But agreed to that, Z.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

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SUPPORT - IT'S NOT JUST A GROUPING OF ATs
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More Than a Game
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I agree 100%. I see so many kids aged 16-21 that have absolutely no idea how to do something as simple as wash up, or mop a floor or polish. I was once asked how to work a hoover, I could hear a loud noise and it took me a while to realise that it was my brain screaming with the stupidity of the question.