Merging servers.


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Originally Posted by SwellGuy View Post
I don't think I've ever read anyone against merging the lists to allow people the choice other than the issue of the global names that would need to be worked out.
Oh that could be easily fixed by doing the NA/EU thing they did on these forums and giving out another free global rename token.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Well they'd have 12 other servers to choose from.

That is true.

But if Vigilance or Zukunft was their first choice it would lead to quite a few "WTF?!" moments fornew players.


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See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
That is true.

But if Vigilance or Zukunft was their first choice it would lead to quite a few "WTF?!" moments fornew players.
And lots of comedy threads.


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
Well I don't know what to tell you. I lead teams about 90% of the time when I play, both because my friends are lazy and because I'm good at it. I can fill up a team from 1 to 8 with entirely pubbies in about 5-15 minutes, every single time, any time of day, no matter what I'm doing. I don't have this "drama" or "headache" you speak of. I don't send blind invites either. Sounds like a problem on your end.
Name your server.


 

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Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
Name your server.
I've done this on Virtue, Freedom, Justice, Pinnacle, and Guardian.

But if you're sitting on a low pop server annoyed you aren't in a team of 8 at all times, you're probably on the wrong server. Some people like the low pop servers. It's like standing in a puddle annoyed there aren't enough whales. That's not what the puddle's for. It's so kids can make mud pies. I think I was going somewhere with this analogy.


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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

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Originally Posted by SwellGuy View Post
While there is a difference to the past, the general claim is that the game is dying because of that when the reality is that the game has changed. The drop in population is not why you don't have the getting bombarded with invites upon login as much as the shift to instances plus the addition of CoV and many more CoH zones as well as the abilty to adjust our difficulties beyond the actual team composition.
It's almost like i said that already.

Oh wait, there it is -"Now, I don't know whether to blame any changes on lower population or simply on the effect IO sets and the new difficulty settings have had on the ability to solo content".

Most of the people in this thread are stuck in some defensive mindset, where every criticism of the current state game is taken as a pronouncement of doom and reacted to with canned responses that don't actually correspond to the complaints made.

It might help if people would not quote walls of text and actually read what's on the screen before responding.


 

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Originally Posted by EvilRyu View Post
To be fair, starting out they had no where near the server capcity they needed for Aion at launch. Maybe had they done that more people would not have ragequit from the retardedly long queues we had back then. As it is now there isnt a line to do anything in Aion.
See, I hear about these queues (pre-ordered, was in the headstart) and I ran into them once. Maybe twice.

Maybe it was somewhere other than Israphel and Lumiel, maybe it was the times, I don't know - but I have, quite literally, almost never seen a queue there for the six months I played there.


 

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Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
It's almost like i said that already.

Oh wait, there it is -"Now, I don't know whether to blame any changes on lower population or simply on the effect IO sets and the new difficulty settings have had on the ability to solo content".

Most of the people in this thread are stuck in some defensive mindset, where every criticism of the current state game is taken as a pronouncement of doom and reacted to with canned responses that don't actually correspond to the complaints made.

It might help if people would not quote walls of text and actually read what's on the screen before responding.

I still don't see you putting up.


 

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Originally Posted by Westley View Post
I'll give you 20 minutes to respond here with your in-game character name.

Put up, or shut up.
OR ELSE!

Seriously, do we have to be so confrontational about it?


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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
I've done this on Virtue, Freedom, Justice, Pinnacle, and Guardian.

But if you're sitting on a low pop server annoyed you aren't in a team of 8 at all times, you're probably on the wrong server. Some people like the low pop servers. It's like standing in a puddle annoyed there aren't enough whales. That's not what the puddle's for. It's so kids can make mud pies. I think I was going somewhere with this analogy.
Well, I've been on my server (Pinnacle) since launch day, so I'm not moving without all my characters and my SG base - which I don't see happening anytime soon. It certainly wasn't low pop when I picked it. I would have picked a different one if the name had been "watch the tumbleweeds roll by".

And I'm not talking about teams of 8. Sunday I played for 9 hours with LFG up and never saw an invite. When i finally needed to get more damage/debuff/whatever to take out 2 AVs I couldn't solo, it took another 2.5 hours to get 2 people to help - and to get them I had to give up asking people if they wanted to group and switch to asking people to do me a favor by helping out.

Switching the difficulty to remove AVs and beating it solo would have been easier than getting 2 people, and that seems like a waste for an online game. It doesn't make me happy with the state of the game when I can honestly say that 90% of the time it's easier for me to solo than to get a group together.


 

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Originally Posted by Westley View Post
I still don't see you putting up.
What on earth are you talking about, Mr Cryptic?
Oh, I see your post now. Dude, I'm an adult. I have a job.

Do it Sunday. Pinnacle. 1pm-3pm. No asking your SG members to log characters onto that server. No TF, just a 40-50 mission group. You will fail. There will probably not be enough characters on who don't explicitly refuse such groups in their LFG message to make a full team.

I'll give you the win if you hit 5 counting yourself within the time frame.

And no people in this thread cheating to make a point.

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I'll give you 20 minutes to respond here with your in-game character name.

Put up, or shut up. \
And damn, you're an *******.


 

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Originally Posted by Ironblade View Post
OR ELSE!

Seriously, do we have to be so confrontational about it?
The result of frustrations of people constantly saying the wrong things over and over again.


 

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Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
What on earth are you talking about, Mr Cryptic?
I directly responded to you above. I even sent you a Private Message POINTING to the post to make sure that you would see it.


 

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What on earth are you talking about, Mr Cryptic?
He already told you. Your just choosing to ignore what he posted.

Pick any server.

Give him the name of the character your are going to log in on.

He will show you how easy it is to form a team.

Nevermind. You edited your post while I was responding.


 

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Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
What on earth are you talking about, Mr Cryptic?
Oh, I see your post now. Dude, I'm an adult. I have a job.

Do it Sunday. Pinnacle. 1pm-3pm. No asking your SG members to log characters onto that server. No TF, just a 40-50 mission group. You will fail. There will probably not be enough characters on who don't explicitly refuse such groups in their LFG message to make a full team.

I'll give you the win if you hit 5 counting yourself within the time frame.

And no people in this thread cheating to make a point.


And damn, you're an *******.
The challenge today was right now. The Open Challenge is for a week's notice. Why a week's notice? Because of my job.

And because of my job, I'm going to be driving to Chicago on Sunday to be in training for the next three weeks. That's actually why I have today off, so that they don't have to pay me overtime to travel on Sunday. They also gave me Monday off this week so that I'd work on Saturday for free. Jerks.

Now if you'd like to set it up for NEXT Sunday, that should be fine as I'll be sitting in my hotel room in Chicago on my work laptop.

And no, I don't ******* cheat. I only make pick up groups. I HAVE no SG, I HAVE no friends in game. I'm such a dick that no one will be my friend in game.


 

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I'm seeing a disconnect - and not just "can't get a team on pinnacle." (Started there, play there often enough.)

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Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
And I'm not talking about teams of 8.
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Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
There will probably not be enough characters on who don't explicitly refuse such groups in their LFG message to make a full team.
So... which is it? Full team or not? Yes, I know in the first message you said you "couldn't get a group of two others" (which I find very hard to believe) but you have to admit there's a disconnect between those two posts.

The reason I'm pointing this out? I did exactly what Westly's doing - we had someone here saying, on a sunday IIRC, that they couldn't get a team on Freedom redside. Now, I almost never play on Freedom - did last week because a friend has her main/badger there and wanted to run the new posi, and that was the first time in, well... months - but I hopped on and had a team running through several missions in minutes. When I pointed this out - with screenshot of the first team within five minutes of saying I'd do so - his argument went from "Those people left my team!" (unprovable) to "It's not a full team of 8 staying filled!"

So... are you saying "trio or higher" or "full 8" for a team to be "put together?" Or, to put it another way, what are you considering a team to be? Because if I'm saying "I have no problem getting on a team," and I'm talking about a PUG, no set definition, 3 or more people, and you're thinking "one of each main AT, plus fillers to keep us at 7 or 8," we're talking two totally different things.


 

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Originally Posted by Westley View Post
I HAVE no SG, I HAVE no friends in game. I'm such a dick that no one will be my friend in game.
It's true. No one likes him in game. However they love him here on the forums.


 

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Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
It's almost like i said that already.

Oh wait, there it is -"Now, I don't know whether to blame any changes on lower population or simply on the effect IO sets and the new difficulty settings have had on the ability to solo content".

Most of the people in this thread are stuck in some defensive mindset, where every criticism of the current state game is taken as a pronouncement of doom and reacted to with canned responses that don't actually correspond to the complaints made.

It might help if people would not quote walls of text and actually read what's on the screen before responding.
Right back at you snark boy.

Welcome to my ignore list automatically given to every clown poster who calls someone a fanboi (or some variation of it like "Mr. Cryptic" and by the way it's not Cryptic any more genius) or railing on someone's post count.

You're not worth the time to read or respond to.


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
Sunday I played for 9 hours with LFG up and never saw an invite.
There's your problem. Seriously.

I always check people who have the "looking for team" flag first, after I check friends and SG. That may get me 1-2 people, or more if it's a good day and there's something going on (like DS just getting released). After that I send out a broadcast. That almost never gets me anything. After that I start asking people.

LFT flag and spamming broadcast are extremely ineffective ways of finding a team. If all you're doing to "find a team" is setting your LFT flag or spamming broadcast in one zone, it's no wonder it's not working.


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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

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Originally Posted by Westley View Post
I still don't see you putting up.
With ignore I get to see him shutting up...


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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Well, I've been on my server (Pinnacle)
Really? And you have problems teaming there?

Weird, I play on the same server (and ONLY on that server), and I don't have these issues you speak of.

See, but I also LIKE less populated servers. If I don't feel like teaming, or if I want to duo with my wife, I don't get pestered quite as much with people wanting me to join their team, or asking if they can join mine. When I DO want to team, I have little or no difficulty finding one.

The biggest problem *I* see with merging servers is the number of people there are in the game like me. I'm playing on a lower population server intentionally, and I would be HIGHLY annoyed if the pro-server-merge people get their way and I get shove into a situation I've been actively avoiding for 4+ years. The day I get forced onto an overpopulated server against my will is the day I cancel my account, and I'd imagine there are a lot of people out there who feel the same way about it.

A server merge stands a very real chance of doing what nothing has accomplished yet: Killing the game.

No, it won't happen overnight, but the exodus of people who don't like being crammed in like sardines will hurt. And no one (or very few people) will want to start playing a game that has given the universal sign of being on the way out.

If you remember Tabula Rasa...what happened there? They merged servers, and 6 months later the game was dead. Not "dead" like people say Pinnacle and Victory are, "dead" as in: "servers shut down, no more game".

Even if YOU don't remember that, people who pay attention to MMOs in general DO remember it. And the fact that Tabula Rasa was owned by NCSoft as well would tell them that the same thing will happen here. Even if that isn't the case, you're not going to get them to risk it, at least not in enough numbers to help any.

With the history of games who did server merges failing shortly thereafter it would be, hands down, the STUPIDEST thing our dev team could do just months before the largest expansion to the game in 4 years.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
There's your problem. Seriously.

I always check people who have the "looking for team" flag first, after I check friends and SG. That may get me 1-2 people, or more if it's a good day and there's something going on (like DS just getting released). After that I send out a broadcast. That almost never gets me anything. After that I start asking people.

LFT flag and spamming broadcast are extremely ineffective ways of finding a team. If all you're doing to "find a team" is setting your LFT flag or spamming broadcast in one zone, it's no wonder it's not working.
It's also a quick way to get thrown on peoples ignore lists. I do it. I don't need some twit spamming LFT ruining a public conversation I'm having in broadcast. I may be trying to help another player solve a problem or answer some questions. Spammers get a quick trip to my ignore list, 1 starred with notes identifying them as a spammer.


 

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
The day I get forced onto an overpopulated server against my will is the day I cancel my account, and I'd imagine there are a lot of people out there who feel the same way about it.
Yeah, if I went to play the game one day and nothing else had changed except that I didn't get to click on a server name while logging in, I'd ragequit too. heh.


 

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Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet View Post
Yeah, if I went to play the game one day and nothing else had changed except that I didn't get to click on a server name while logging in, I'd ragequit too. heh.
How would that work? Or do you not play on multiple servers where you have used the same name on them?


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.