Which is the least played AT these days?
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Another_Fan,
Posted on: 2010-05-02 24:34 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
Kheldians and VEATs, though that will change with them being unlocked at 20 rather than 50.
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I would agree with Kheldians being unloved. At last on Virture I would rarely run into one on teams or even in Pocket D. |
Originally Posted by macskull
Kheldians and VEATs, though that will change with them being unlocked at 20 rather than 50.
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But VEATs? Man I can't swing a dead catgirl around with out hitting one.
But I agree there has been an explosion of them since the change to 20. Heck I was on a sewers team the other night that had 6 of them on it.
I think I see fewer stalkers than VEATs on Champion.
..then again, just because you don't see a stalker doesn't mean there isn't one there. 
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I have to admit I'm playing a Warshade now simply because I got the ability to make one, and some of the teams I'm in do look more like an alien invasion then a group of heroes |
Originally Posted by Substrate
But I agree there has been an explosion of them since the change to 20. Heck I was on a sewers team the other night that had 6 of them on it.
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Arachnos are strong and versatile, something that means despite even the past level limitation to get them, they were well used. (At least on Champion, my server.)
Dominators used to be a true rarity, but their re-balancing has made them more common. Still, few people 'get' them. The attack/control balance leads to people disliking them as either not the villain controller they wanted, or not the blaster/scrapper they wanted. Still, they seem to be around.
Stalkers are indeed a rarity. The ability to strategically eliminate is not well valued in a game where most things die fast anywise, so the crazy single target damage is often passed for something less focused.
Kheldians are kind of hard to find, but warshades are far more common than peacebringers.
So, in my experience?
Really common: Blaster, Scrapper, Brute, Controller, Mastermind
Common: Defender, Tanker, Corruptor
Kind of common: Widow, Dominator
Less common: Soldier, Warshade, Stalker
Rare: Peacebringer
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Villainside has sewer teams?
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Originally Posted by Substrate
But I agree there has been an explosion of them since the change to 20. Heck I was on a sewers team the other night that had 6 of them on it.
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Anything that doesn't involve demons or two guns.
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Originally Posted by Test_Rat
I don't log in as much as I used and I am curious:
Which AT is the least liked/played these days? |
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Originally Posted by eltonio
This is over the top mental slavery.
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No I was referring to HEATs not VEATs in that last statement. |
Originally Posted by Talen Lee
Villainside has sewer teams?
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It is a shame redside does not have something like the sewers for quick low level runs.
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Emphasis mine. That's my opinion too, I coudn't have written it better.|
Originally Posted by Seldom
Arachnos are strong and versatile, something that means despite even the past level limitation to get them, they were well used. (At least on Champion, my server.)
Dominators used to be a true rarity, but their re-balancing has made them more common. Still, few people 'get' them. The attack/control balance leads to people disliking them as either not the villain controller they wanted, or not the blaster/scrapper they wanted. Still, they seem to be around. Stalkers are indeed a rarity. The ability to strategically eliminate is not well valued in a game where most things die fast anywise, so the crazy single target damage is often passed for something less focused. Kheldians are kind of hard to find, but warshades are far more common than peacebringers. So, in my experience? Really common: Blaster, Scrapper, Brute, Controller, Mastermind Common: Defender, Tanker, Corruptor Kind of common: Widow, Dominator Less common: Soldier, Warshade, Stalker Rare: Peacebringer |
And hey Test_Rat if you find the Stalker forums a ghost town, try looking for Peacebringer topics on the Kheldian ones.
Stalker or HEAT.
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Excluding the epic ATs it is still stalkers and doms.
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It does, the entirety of Mercy and Oaks are a sewer run. Seriously, take your level 2 right out of the tutorial villain and walk to the black market (on Monday when it is back up). Kill everythign you see on the way. By the time you arrive you will be level 4. Gank a few wolf spiders and skuls around town until you hit 5 and then go to oaks. Do your 3 paper missions and get your rocket pack. congrats, you are now level 6 possibly 7. I find doing this is faster than joining up with "bank farm" groups.|
Originally Posted by Substrate
No I was referring to HEATs not VEATs in that last statement.
It is a shame redside does not have something like the sewers for quick low level runs. |
Once you have your rocket pack head to Cap and join any random team that will take you. Sharkhead is also a good place to find teams.
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This takes at least triple the time that you can get to 8 in the sewers.
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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
It does, the entirety of Mercy and Oaks are a sewer run. Seriously, take your level 2 right out of the tutorial villain and walk to the black market (on Monday when it is back up). Kill everythign you see on the way. By the time you arrive you will be level 4. Gank a few wolf spiders and skuls around town until you hit 5 and then go to oaks. Do your 3 paper missions and get your rocket pack. congrats, you are now level 6 possibly 7. I find doing this is faster than joining up with "bank farm" groups.
Once you have your rocket pack head to Cap and join any random team that will take you. Sharkhead is also a good place to find teams. |
Teaming with Peacebringers and Radiation Blast anythings is like seeing a unicorn.
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Low-level blasters may be common, but there's a distinct shortage of high-level blasters. It's rare for me to see even one on a team, and in my experience, Hamidon raids have more defenders and controllers than blasters.
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Originally Posted by Seldom
Really common: Blaster
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True. And to go along with that, I've never taken a blaster past 38.
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Originally Posted by Katie V
Low-level blasters may be common, but there's a distinct shortage of high-level blasters. It's rare for me to see even one on a team, and in my experience, Hamidon raids have more defenders and controllers than blasters.
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If they changed the PB's knockback into knockdown, I'd start leveling one today...
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Originally Posted by Seldom
Really common: Blaster, Scrapper, Brute, Controller, Mastermind
Common: Defender, Tanker, Corruptor Kind of common: Widow, Dominator Less common: Soldier, Warshade, Stalker Rare: Peacebringer |
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I expect the major turnoff for a lot of people is the low survivability at the start and the lowish damage solo. I know I had to punch my way up to 32 or so before I really started to see results. They're late bloomers.
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Originally Posted by _Relikk_
If they changed the PB's knockback into knockdown, I'd start leveling one today...
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I regularly support knockback-users in threads complaining about knockback, and make a deliberate effort to work with any combination of ATs and powers...but the few times even I get annoyed by someone repeatedly blowing the entire spawn away from my Tanker just before everyone wastes their AoEs, it's almost always a Peacebringer doing it.
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Stalkers and Dominators for redside and Khelds blueside.
Will probably get worse for Dominators, Stalkers and Peacebrings when GR comes out as there will be even more competition for team slots.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
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*purely my own opinion*|
Originally Posted by Katie V
Low-level blasters may be common, but there's a distinct shortage of high-level blasters. It's rare for me to see even one on a team, and in my experience, Hamidon raids have more defenders and controllers than blasters.
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Who wants to run a high level blaster when Scrappers and Tanks can nuke hordes of stuff and not worry about mez and take the alphas. NM the fact you have a lot more competetion for team slots from FS defenders and controllers.
Things will probably get worse for blasters when the incarante system comes out.
*Edit*
its a balancing act the devs will have to address.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD
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Stalkers definitely redside|
Originally Posted by newchemicals
Stalkers and Dominators for redside and Khelds blueside.
Will probably get worse for Dominators, Stalkers and Peacebrings when GR comes out as there will be even more competition for team slots. |
Kelds definitely blueside
Oh I don't know, popularity of Doms seems to depend on server really, but I don't think they'll do any worse or better with GR
Strangely enough, I'd vote defenders being hurt the worst with GR.
Reason is this, already blueside. their in competition with controllers as it is( which btw corrupters really don't see redside), now they'll get competition from yet another AT
I would add MM's. but due to the nature of beast, you don't recruit a MM to a team for their buffing ability, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Blasters dmg is unsurpassed in early levels (pre 30) when other classes do not have access to AoEs but later in the game as these powers become more prelavant. Blasters slightly higher dmg just does not make up for lack buffs/debuffs/control/surviv.|
Originally Posted by newchemicals
*purely my own opinion*
Who wants to run a high level blaster when Scrappers and Tanks can nuke hordes of stuff and not worry about mez and take the alphas. NM the fact you have a lot more competetion for team slots from FS defenders and controllers. Things will probably get worse for blasters when the incarante system comes out. *Edit* its a balancing act the devs will have to address. |
Given the choice of Corr or blaster i would take the former every time in ITF/LGTF speed runs i do regularly. Would be interesting to see what happens to that AT once Corruptors switch over.
As for Stalkers i can see them disappearing all together from the pve picture but will remain very popular for pvp.
I don't log in as much as I used and I am curious:
Which AT is the least liked/played these days?
I am assuming stalker by the forums.
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