I would rather get my Black and Decker power drill and give myself a root canal then seek this Master badge.
Since there are no blooms, just pop some EoEs when fighting Hami in mission 4.
Another easily solved mystery. =P
And what's wrong with Mo badges? Challenges are fun.
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Agreed on all parts. The LGTF isn't a bad thing to run Master.
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Originally Posted by NetMinder
Since there are no blooms, just pop some EoEs when fighting Hami in mission 4.
Another easily solved mystery. =P And what's wrong with Mo badges? Challenges are fun. |
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Corrected that for you. The only challenging Task Forces are the 45-50 range, and the Shards aren't particularly challenging, just long, drawn out, and boring.
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Originally Posted by Wanted_NA
Personally, I would LOVE to see a "Master of" badge for every TF/SF that exists in the game (Master of Shard TFs? Whoa!! THAT Would be freakin' BORING). And then maybe some accolade for collecting them all.
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Originally Posted by NetMinder
And what's wrong with Mo badges? Challenges are fun.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
A few days ago I had two people in the closed beta thread tell me that the Mo badges build community.
From my point of view, they promote:
Then there is the problem of creating a team. Most people are interested in quick merits. This means speed runs of ITFs, LGTF (the irony here is thick), even speed Positrons (the flashback version is going to get its merit rewards nerfed to nothingness, as I know people are already saying that they'll do them under 90 minutes), and others. |
These badges DO NOT promote community building. Fundamentally, if a badge breaks community in a Massively Multiplayer Game, then it is acting against the developers, not for them. The developers, in order to make money, need to do everything they can to build communities in the game.
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I'm right there with you on this Snow. I'm all for the Mo badges being removed from the game and stripped from all that have them.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
From another post of mine:
I was told by a mutual friend that one of my friends was so harassed on a public channel recently that they shut the game down and hid for a few days because of yet another failed Master of Statesman TF. Is this the behaviour that the developers want to promote? These badges DO NOT promote community building. Fundamentally, if a badge breaks community in a Massively Multiplayer Game, then it is acting against the developers, not for them. The developers, in order to make money need to do everything they can to build communities in the game. |
I don't see them as building community at all. I have been on nothing but failed MoSTF attempts, and I can tell you that I've never felt good about the effort at the end.
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All they build is team conflict and badge elitism. Strip them from the game and be done with them. |
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I don't see them as building community at all. I have been on nothing but failed MoSTF attempts, and I can tell you that I've never felt good about the effort at the end.
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I would rather take on an army of the Kronos Titans that are reinforced with a fleet of Arachnos Flyers with my weakest toon, stripped of all IO's and under total debuff then seek a new Mo badge.
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Have there been people that have tried to get the badge since i17 came out? Just curious. >.>
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We planned to do it on test, but never got enough people interested and together at the same time. We figured we'll just try it once it went live.|
Originally Posted by SaintNicster
Have there been people that have tried to get the badge since i17 came out? Just curious. >.>
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I do plan to try it soon and I'll post about it... but for all we know the requirements could be different than the others. Because of the usage of EoE on Hami, they could have been mean and made "no inspirations" reuired... but it's still speculation at this point. We wont know until we try.
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You know all the comments Nericus has been posting above? I've gotten worse in game for asking, and I really can't say that I blame anyone for the response.
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Originally Posted by SaintNicster
Have there been people that have tried to get the badge since i17 came out? Just curious. >.>
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Maybe if we don't ever try for it and pretend it doesn't exist.. it'll just go away. haha
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
You know all the comments Nericus has been posting above? I've gotten worse in game for asking, and I really can't say that I blame anyone for the response.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I was told by a mutual friend that one of my friends was so harassed on a public channel recently that they shut the game down and hid for a few days because of yet another failed Master of Statesman TF. Is this the behaviour that the developers want to promote?
These badges DO NOT promote community building. Fundamentally, if a badge breaks community in a Massively Multiplayer Game, then it is acting against the developers, not for them. The developers, in order to make money need to do everything they can to build communities in the game. |
Seriously, though: The Freedom Horde (an all-inclusive social gathering from various SGs) runs Master TFs regularly with essentially public signups. No ATs barred, don't give a hoot about your IOs, just that you know your powers and that you're on your game.The behaviors you post as case-in-point for your experience don't mesh the proven experiences with the circles I'm involved with (and my involvement with them is quite loose). If you'd like to give us a whirl by transferring over, head to the Freedom board and watch for Horde signup posts for the various Master runs. We'll always welcome a new face.
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No, I can't see them being "mean" and stating no Insps to block out EoE usage on the Hami mission. They would be mean enough just by adding the badge in the first place. |
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
We planned to do it on test, but never got enough people interested and together at the same time. We figured we'll just try it once it went live.
I do plan to try it soon and I'll post about it... but for all we know the requirements could be different than the others. Because of the usage of EoE on Hami, they could have been mean and made "no inspirations" reuired... but it's still speculation at this point. We wont know until we try. |
Seriously though, if the other Mo badges are no death/no temp powers then I can't see them breaking the traditional requirements for a hypothetical MoLGTF badge.
I would rather face an army of Kronos Titans that are supported by 5 manifestations of the Hamidon and augmented by the power of Rularuu then seek a new Mo badge.
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You know all the comments Nericus has been posting above? I've gotten worse in game for asking, and I really can't say that I blame anyone for the response.
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Also while my comments have a certain sarcastic/humorous twist to them, I'm sure the message is clear: PLEASE no new Mo badges.
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Play on a server with a nicer, more emotionally stable population like Freedom.
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The behaviors you post as case-in-point for your experience don't mesh the proven experiences with the circles I'm involved with (and my involvement with them is quite loose).
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Indeed: "spend $10 to transfer to our server, and remember if you don't like it then it's another $10 to leave it!"
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Server transfers should NEVER be the solution to any problem the game has with teaming. To say it should be is completely wrong and is missing the point.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
And I've heard (and witnessed) the exact opposite a few times I've been to every single server. While I agree that every server might have a group that is willing to help, I don't think you can say that the majority of the time. It really revolves around a lot of factors like time on, server in question, and random chance. |
I've been on many failed Mo attempts on our server and the attitude has been good towards the one who "ruined" it. In several cases, it was a death right at the very end. It's only once in a while when you get a group that really cares, and even those same people would probably not care on another attempt at another time.
I don't mind the Mo badges. I'd rather have more challenging than easy street.
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if you all hate the master badges so much, then why even bother to get them? it was about the same with the AE badge purge, some of the badges were unreasonable and needed to be removed, most of them i never even bothered to get (i really disliked the ones for running hall of fame and dev choice arcs so i didnt bother with those badges)
i like the master badges because they do provide some level of challenge to the end game stuff right now, in all of the master runs ive been on ive NEVER seen anyone barred because they didnt have the right enhances or didnt have a "perfect" build
heck, when i16 came out i ran a master of barracuda successfully with 5 poeple, 1 of which was fairly new to the game and never even ran barracuda sf before and although we took 4.5 hours to finish, we still finished successfully because everyone worked together
whoever are the jerks who bar ATs or poeple because of different builds are the wrong poeple to be playing with in the first place and deserve a spot on your ignore list
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Server transfers should NEVER be the solution to any problem the game has with teaming. To say it should be is completely wrong and is missing the point.
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I've never encountered Mo badge elitism. Yes, a PUG will need a dynamite Tank on even a regular STF (it's the hardest TF in the game for a reason). Yes, there are some "recommended ATs/powersets" for certain tasks that make them a lot easier. I've never had anyone ask me what my slotting is.
My Elec^3 Blaster has MoSTF and doesn't have MoITF or Mo5th mainly because I don't like playing him (but he's my blueside badger, bless him) -- he certainly hasn't suffered from any discrimination. And no, he's not purpled out, nor does he have any PvP IOs. Hell, his build isn't even complete! It's missing enhancements in the later powers (mostly the APP powers IIRC) and it's missing the first 2 melee attacks from Electricity Manipulation (I didn't level with this build...gonna respec eventually). If I can get on and complete a MoSTF with this character, any character can do it. (Maybe not a casual player, but hell, even a regular STF is tough to run casually.)
My point is this -- you are being silly.
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All the hate for the MO badges makes me LOL!! 
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Wait, this is news? I've had that badge for like 3 issues now...
...is what I'll be able to say 3 issues from now once i've gotten it >_>
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It literally has gotten to the point that this friend in question is being called names and publicly at that because the person has been on so many attempts in the last few months. I'm not being silly about this. The level of poor sportsmanship that these badges bring out is just wrong for the game.|
Originally Posted by DarkGob
I think the lesson here is that you should find people to play with who aren't jerks. Same as in real life.
... My point is this -- you are being silly. |
Yeah, you shouldn't play with jerks. On the flip side is that these badges are pretty much designed to bring out that kind of attitude.
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