Thought exercise - GR Crashing the BM

PVP Hold IOs are not as expensive as you think. 4 pieces were 50 mill, 1 was 100, and 1 was 200.

LOL

LOL learn to read. I said pvp IOs in general. I didn't make an distinction. So since you missed that distinction, you probably missed the overall point about it being unwise to use one of the rarest items in the game as a barameter of market health, on either side.

PVP IOs IN GENERAL are priced high because they are so freaking rare.

I chose a RANDOM IO. BM is well supplied, and will be even better come i17!

Ah, sweet, sweet silence!

The first part of your statement is factually incorrect. "Well supplied" is a value judgment and the only other market to compare to is Wentworth's. The BM is poorly supplied in comparison to WW, therefore you are wrong. Unless, perhaps, you're stating that YOU find it well-supplied. It may be good enough to satisfy you, but then the statement is mere OPINION.

As for the second part, we'll have to wait and see what happens.

well , since level 50 To's exist then that means everything is fine for the market.

I like to build houses out of straw?


OOOO so the FACT that half as many people play redside as Blue at any given moment on every server, means that teaming is easier redside than blue? Or was it the simple fact that you got on a team on redside but not blue( since youre on redside at that moment) mean that things are fine redside?

You are in fact the worst troll ever. Even 4chan would be ashamed to add you to thier ranks.

The corollary to this is whether the marketeers have enough 'clout' to have an impact. If we have any significant player migration occur, the marketeers will be pebbles in the avalanche.

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This would not hurt my feelings one bit and I'm inclined to agree with you on the reasoning.

Well that's just it. You farm to sell stuff to buyers. What happens if all your buyers move away? No sales means that your slots stay full. When your slots stay full there's no point in farming. If you are farming to sell stuff so that you can afford to buy other things then same deal. You sell nothing and can not therefore buy any thing. If you are selling things just so your inf total goes up that's a different story.

I've spent the last few weeks spending all my infamy on goods that hold up well on the blue side market since I won't be able to take my infamy with me, that and not spending my tickets or merits. I'm sure there are others that are doing the same thing. I've converted almost every scrap of infamy to goods that I can carry over (kind of like dumping paper currency and investing in gold when the economy tanks). If other players have been doing the same then there will literally be nothing left to buy on the black market.

I see an exodus from red side to blue, I don't see a comparable influx of heroes gone bad. What little there remains for sale on the BM may vanish as it's owner eats the listing fee and pulls it to take over to the side where it will sell, further compounding the problem. When I say crash I mean ghost town crash.

The carrot can't be game changing (and it would have to be to prevent the exodus) without the devs breaking one of their fundamental game design decisions where rewards are concerned. I don't see the carrot being big enough without altering game balance.

I can see that the ability to be an incarnate only applying to a pure character might be the carrot. I can also see a lot of ticked off people having to start from scratch with an identical red side toon in Praetoria to make them into a blue side Incarnate. A move that would have the potential to be economic suicide to the devs.

I don't have a lot of faith in Posi's market saavy as most of what he says about it is flat out wrong at worst and skewed at best. For Positot's sake I hope Mrs. Posi handles the family finances.

He/she says as he/she quakes in fear of the coming storm that the exodus from redside will be. It's not the masses that are uninformed it is you. The perception problem is yours. I thought you were a rubber duck not a rubber ostritch. It's time to pull your head out of the sand and take a good look around without the rose colored glasses.

I couldn't help but laugh at the above. Anyone who thinks that the BM is "well supplied" needs to look up what "well supplied" means. I guess that TCS's connection to the market is a little laggy and he's looking at it as it was pre-i14

if we had any clout at all there would be many more wealthy "casual gamers" and all the niches we've exposed over the years would've collapsed.

also, we'd have a moon zone with a rocket pad in Steel Canyon, and a water blast set!

T_C_S is just alright with me.

Players who don't use the market and therefore don't care about it are irrelevant to the discussion. Except of course for the fact that, were it more liquid, more of them might find it useful enough to bother with.

Would you care to explain what "everything you want" entails? After all, you might want to buy nothing but level 50 bargain bin IOs, when people who don't like the BM are usually trying to buy non-near-50 rare and/or expensive IOs.

My stalker can buy everything he wants too, because all he wants are common IOs.

Post your shopping list, why don't you.

There is an abundance of trash available in the Black Market. Or you can use another word for 'trash' and just call it the BM.

Find it 'funny' if you want. All I can say, is that at this point, I'm planning on moving every single vill to the blueside market. All my in-game friends are planning the same.

Why would I stay stuck with the anemic BM, when I can use WW, and still access all redside content by playing as a Vigilante?

And in addition to this I look forward to having my villains parade around Atlas Park to the massive QQing of the heroes-only RPing crowd.

I've resorted to just using a mix of generic IO's and frankenslotting common set IO's when playing redside. Or should I say, TRYING to frankenslot common set IO's. Sometimes it takes a week just to buy a basic yellow set recipe that would be vendor trash blueside..

I've been using up my stash of common IOs my field crafters made and just been buying SOs lately to fill in the gaps. Very bland and boring.

OH GOD hadn't thought of that.

Now I am DEFINITELY taking the Goat "hero", with a special origin about how he's subverting Paragon City from within and paving the way for the Thousand Young of Shub Niggurath to erupt from Atlas' globe and devour all that is good and right.


I'm just hoping one of the new emotes is HIP THRUST so my prosthelytizing in broadcast will have an appropriate visual component!

What server does Alt-O-Holic call home, does anyone know? =P


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hey, someone should pick a server and start a Paragon City Villain Group for all of us who're just there for the markets but are still evil in our hearts. =D

Wouldn't it have to be Virtue? That's where my Blood Widow is going to be to corrupt the youth of Paragon City (assuming she can find any).