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Reptile armor. Discuss. Personally i think making the toggles add the look of a reptile to the character would be badass.

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Reptile armor. Discuss. Personally i think making the toggles add the look of a reptile to the character would be badass.

Like coating yourself in small reptiles for defense? Won't PETA get upset?*


At the moment you could do this using different cossie sets, a CC emote and either Invunerablity or Willpower as the Defense set. More lizard/reptile/dinosaur costume pieces would be nice though.


 

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Reptile armor. Discuss. Personally i think making the toggles add the look of a reptile to the character would be badass.

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This sounds more like a suggestion to add another reptile costume to the costume creator. Besides, what should the powerset do? How would it be different from what we already have? And if it is intended to be a serious suggestion why not post it in the "Suggestions and Ideas" section of the forum?


 

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This sounds more like a suggestion to add another reptile costume to the costume creator. Besides, what should the powerset do? How would it be different from what we already have? And if it is intended to be a serious suggestion why not post it in the "Suggestions and Ideas" section of the forum?
How is anything different? The intent was to have others help devleop the idea with "discussion" thus it's not a suggestion nor is it a fully determined idea. And, no I mentioned nothing about adding more reptile costumes.


 

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How is anything different? The intent was to have others help devleop the idea with "discussion" thus it's not a suggestion nor is it a fully determined idea. And, no I mentioned nothing about adding more reptile costumes.
Given the lack of any information about what you think should be in the set and what would make it different to say Willpower or Invulnerability (both of which would make fine Reptile sets) adding more reptile cossies and just choosing one of those two sets (or Regen or whatever else you fancied trying out) instead would seem to be to be a far more flexible solution.


 

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I'm fine with that as long as the tier 9 makes you turn into a 50 feet T-Rex.


 

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This wouldn't really work because, so far, all the powersets work specifically with effects, not causes. The effect of Ice Armour is that you end up covered in slippery ice that boosts your defence. The effect of Invulnerability is attacks not harming the character so much. The cause is always up to the player - which leaves Reptile Armour looking a bit out-of-place, as it is specifically a cause and not an effect.

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Not even going to acknowledge Stalkers? And Tankers don't even get armor as a secondary.

No.


 

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Given the lack of any information about what you think should be in the set and what would make it different to say Willpower or Invulnerability (both of which would make fine Reptile sets) adding more reptile cossies and just choosing one of those two sets (or Regen or whatever else you fancied trying out) instead would seem to be to be a far more flexible solution.
This.

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This wouldn't really work because, so far, all the powersets work specifically with effects, not causes. The effect of Ice Armour is that you end up covered in slippery ice that boosts your defence. The effect of Invulnerability is attacks not harming the character so much. The cause is always up to the player - which leaves Reptile Armour looking a bit out-of-place, as it is specifically a cause and not an effect.
This not so much. Shield defense is a cause, I guess, but it grants a far broader spectrum of player creativity.

Anything as restrictive as Reptile Armor is just a terrible idea.


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I'm fine with that as long as the tier 9 makes you turn into a 50 feet T-Rex.
Actually it turns you into a 60 feet tall version of Godzilla but comes with a 5% risk per activation that your arch-enemy Mothra shows up to fight you in Boomtown. And while you are in Godzilla form all people around you seem to be speaking japanese.


 

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I'm fine with that as long as the tier 9 makes you turn into a 50 feet T-Rex.
/signed. Oh God in Heaven /signed. Actually I'd be happy with 12 feet, or anything decent over the current 8' limit.

Tho speaking to the OP's suggestion, Inv, WP, and Regen all make fine defense sets for lizards.


 

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Reptile armor. Discuss. Personally i think making the toggles add the look of a reptile to the character would be badass.

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I'd have to go along with those saying pick the reptile costume pieces, and then INV, WP, Regen, and go!


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Think outside the box. I've never been one to think in terms of why something won't work but how you can make something work. I still think it's a great idea. So then since many seem to think it's a bad idea let's make it unique. I've had a night to sleep on the idea. I wanted a stone brute but didn't like the -rech -dam -run speed but I i didn't decide to just make a WP brute and make him look like a rock. Besides adding new and fresh stuff to the game is what keeps people interested so maybe a lot of you should keep in mind this was intended to be a discussion on how you could make such a thing work. I should have given a better post title lesson earned.

Anyway, What about some kind of toggle like dark armors cloak of fear that that causes choking due to a poison aura that causes foes around you to choke?

How about an aura like mudpots with taunt effects that damages all foes in range whenever the player is attacked?

Or something to do with a lizard tail would be easy since black scorpion already has one it wouldn't be too hard to move to a lizard type character set.

Armor, well think stegosaurus. You don't need to make the whole character a reptile. But having another set or armor that alters the character look like stone armor would be cool.


 

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I have a spine/regen thats decked out with the reptile looks and I worked a lot with the costume creater to come up with *Spit* - a mutant that was bit by his pet radioactive komoto dragons when his radio fell in the tub while bathing with them. Was shocking - back story FTW!!

Now all i need is a spit attack and VOMIT EMOTE!!! HEAR THAT, DEVS!?!?!?!!?


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Regen and WP seem most fitting for a reptile character. Too bad tanks and brutes dont get access to regen.


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Step One: Pick the Brute/Stalker/Scrapper/Tanker Archetype.

Step Two: Pick "Invulnerability" or "Willpower" as your armor power.

Step Three: Pick the reptilian costume pieces. Customize to your liking.

Ta-dah! Reptilian armor!


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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
Not even going to acknowledge Stalkers? And Tankers don't even get armor as a secondary.

No.
Reptile armor could work for Stalkers perfectly, Though I would leave a minor Psi Hole and a huge Cold hole (I mean seriously, they didn't make it out of the Ice age.)

Tier 1 Camouflage - You can blend with your surroundings (Hide)

Tier 2 Harden Skin - As a reptile you have tougher skin than most, but your cold blood leaves you vulnerable to cold damage (Auto Resistance to all but Psi and cold)

Tier 3 secondary palate - As a reptile you have an extra palate to allow for more breathing, allowing you to do more tasks than the average without getting as tired (Auto Recovery)

Tier 4 Reptile Reflexes - As a reptile you senses are more keen and are able to see what is coming at you and are able to evade danger better than most. (Toggle or Auto Defense to all but psi)

Tier 5 Reptile Tactics - You use all of your natural reptile instincts to make you a predator and not prey. (Mez protection, +preception, and +regen)

Tier 6 Reptile Regeneration - As a reptile your cells can regenerate better than most species. (Not sure about it Self Heal or Auto regen, or Click Self Heal/Regen)

Tier 7 Adaptation - You tend to adapt to your backgrounds quicker than other species, so the more you are attacked the better you are at resisting the element, but your cold blood still leaves you vulnerable to cold damage. (Scaling Resist Toggle, the lower your health is the more Resistance you have to all but Cold. 99% - 75% = 10% resist, 74% - 50% = 15% resists, 49% - 25% = 20% resists, 25% - 10% = 25% resists, 9% - 1% = 30% resists)

Tier 8 Shedding - After taking enough, you can leave your old skin behind and refresh yourself (Self Rez)

Tier 9 Natural Selection - When you back is against the wall you must do what you have to, to survive. (Fixed Recharge, Minor Defense, Minor Resistance, and Minor Regen Boost)

One that was nice but did not make it

Autotomy - This is a process which you leave a piece of your self behind in order to trick foes so that you are able to flee. (PBAoE Placate and self Regen)

I don't too much care if it seems OP just a spur of the moment thing I did in my free time.


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It also has a damage aura from their tongues flailing at your enemies.

Uhm.... ewww....


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Reptile armor. Discuss. Personally i think making the toggles add the look of a reptile to the character would be badass.

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Think outside the box. I've never been one to think in terms of why something won't work but how you can make something work. I still think it's a great idea. <snippage>
i'm going to go with the others here and say that i don't think it's a great idea. In fact it's a thoroughly silly and pointless idea for reasons that have been more than adequately explained by many of the previous posters.

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Reptile armor could work for Stalkers perfectly, Though I would leave a minor Psi Hole and a huge Cold hole (I mean seriously, they didn't make it out of the Ice age.)
Wait, what? Then what the hell are all those scaly, coldblooded critters found on just about every sizable chunk of land below the Arctic Circle and above Antarctica?

If you're thinking of dinosaurs, well some of them (or at least their direct descendants) are still around as well. You might recognize them as birds. All of the quadrupedal dinosaurs and most of the bipeds died off millions of years ago, but they were warmblooded anyway. Disappointingly, the largest critters of direct dinosaur lineage in the last few million years haven't gotten much above seven feet tall as i recall. All of the terrestrial megafauna in that timeframe have been mammals.

Edit: Come to think of it, aren't some penguins found near Antarctica? So much an ice age that occurred millions of years after they'd mostly already died out ending their time on Earth. Penguins like frigid temperatures just fine.


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Wait, what? Then what the hell are all those scaly, coldblooded critters found on just about every sizable chunk of land below the Arctic Circle and above Antarctica?
How many cold blooded reptiles are there again?

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Penguins like frigid temperatures just fine.
They don't have cold blood and they are birds not reptiles

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With a few exceptions, all mammals and birds are warm-blooded, and all reptiles, insects, arachnids, amphibians and fish are cold-blooded.
As for fish

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Fish who live in areas where the winters are cold move to deeper waters during the colder months or migrate to warmer waters. Some fish have a special protein in their blood which acts like anti-freeze to help them survive very cold water temperatures
But I was just talking about cold blooded reptiles and none are in any of those areas, so please keep with cool blooded reptiles as reptile armor is what is being discussed, thank you.


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How many cold blooded reptiles are there again?
..all of them?

Saying that "reptiles didn't make it out of the Ice Age" is a baffling statement. Clearly they did or there wouldn't be any today.

..you do know that there are reptiles today, right? Snakes, lizards, turtles, crocodiles, and those frigging tuataras. Are you thinking of a word that isn't "reptile"?


 

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..all of them?

Saying that "reptiles didn't make it out of the Ice Age" is a baffling statement. Clearly they did or there wouldn't be any today.

..you do know that there are reptiles today, right? Snakes, lizards, turtles, crocodiles, and those frigging tuataras. Are you thinking of a word that isn't "reptile"?
I was referring to the comment that was said about them being in the arctic Circle and Antarctica, there are no reptiles in those areas.


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Reptile armor. Discuss. Personally i think making the toggles add the look of a reptile to the character would be badass.

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Discuss.

I think large birds that fly long distances over water are cool, and we need them in the game.


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I'm fine with that as long as the tier 9 makes you turn into a 50 feet T-Rex.
Now THAT would be cool. Make it so number 1


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