Tank V Scrapper - damage comparison?

If everyone would stop trying to pick a fight with everything I say on my posts, and stop neg repping me like its going out of style, I might be more apt to give a crap about my Grammar and throw proof in your faces with Video and ect.

Your all as big of ***** as I am by automatically disscounting everything I write without even reading half of what was said or even trying to understand a diffrent point of veiw might be possible past your own.

Now.Let me break something to you Chief.

The compairison was a Fire/Fire Tanker vs a Fire/SD Scrapper.So if you want to go off of a AV fight you'll have to redo some of your math for both builds.

Your SD's Damage boost in its set gives BARLY ANY Damage buffage for ONE TARGET.So you just got a failing grade.Your compairing 180% damage boost from a Dual BU Build that also has a Damage Aura going off to a Scrapper that gets a single BU and SD Damage buff for under the Tankers Amount.Not only that but it has no Damage Aura.

Redo your math.Your not adding what was being talked about in the first place Bill Z Bubba.

You guys try awefully hard to keep me in the red when im trying to be polite.That makes many of you worse then me.

wow...

Damage comparisons between the two ATs without including one of those ATs' inherent powers is either disingenuous or absurd. Yes, if you eliminate something which is built into the very nature of an AT (Criticals), then the comparison is much closer. But since Criticals are, again, built into the Scrapper AT, it absolutely has to be included in any comparison. You wouldn't compare burst damage between a Scrapper and a Stalker without including the latter's various assassination attacks...well, maybe some folks would, but that would be silly.

Fire, it would behoove you at some point to question whether dozens of veteran players, veterans who are vested enough in the game to create spreadsheets and perform extensive datamining, are all incorrect, or maybe perhaps it is just you. Probability says it's the latter. Of course, you may have a deeper understanding of the game than someone like BillZ, who compiles data and releases things like comprehensive cross-Archetype damage comparisons...but the odds are certainly stacked against you.

I think the origin of much of the "vitriol", for lack of a better word, engendered by your posts is that there is a real danger in your posts when read by newcomers to the game, or just those who don't frequent the boards. A new player might read one of your posts and be completely misled unless and until your flawed assertions* are countermanded. The negative rep which you seem to perceive as some sort of personal attack should instead be seen for what it is; a notice to readers of your posts that you are, quite simply and quite often, in the wrong.

*other flawed assertions (and this is just off the top of my head): Dark/ is the best blast set for soloing AVs (better than Fire/ or Sonic/...simply ridiculous, and backed up with even more ridiculousness, such as slotting the attacks for Endurance Reduction and using Moonbeam in your proposed attack chain); "Tanking" with Defenders ("Tanking" here, as defined by you, as being able to soak up an alpha, and/or preemptively lock down/defeat spawns...the inclusion of anecdotal "evidence" from SOLO PLAY, for pete's sake, is truly absurd. It's literally impossible to "tank" when solo. )

Just figured I'd pop into the party and let you guys know that this thread had me LOLing at work. Funny stuff.

I like Fire_Minded. The boards need a few more characters like him.

I can feel the negative rep coming!

I think this about sums it up.

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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded Maybe one of these days ill learn to be politically correct with my terms, especially when a single word can cause a holocost of posts jumping me for it, when its trivial to use a word wrong in the first place.*shrugs*

Emphasis mine. If you don't see what's wrong with that, then that says it all.

To be honest and fair to fireminded. we should actually be comparing Tankers to Brutes. Since Brutes have the same damage output before inherents as scrappers and closers survivability to the tankers. Why is it again that I would play a tanker?

As is my DM/Elec can survive about anything out there before sets. What is even more buff is a Brute version since he can have higher resistances. My scrapper can hit it resistance hard cap easy which is better then being soft capped defense. A brute gets 15% more resistance.

You should really be comparing ATs that are like each other. A scrapper is melee damage period. A tanker is to tank period. A brute is to tank period. That is there designed roles. As such it is hard to compare ATs. The interesting comparison will be Brutes and Tankers. and what will happen with GR.

So here is my question to the posters. Can a Brute on average do the job of a Tanker while doing more damage then a tanker? And yes I know that tankers will always be able to take more of a beating then brutes. I am talking averages.