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Evil powers for evil people is right there with blue boys and pink girls in terms of children's cartoons clichés that have no
She's PAAAAAANK!


 

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But is it really a heroic sacrifice if you force them into it?

I see. So using your logic the soldiers that died on the beaches of Normandy, Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Pork Chop Hill, Midway, Hamburger Hill, and hundreds of other battles weren't heroic sacrifices because the soldiers that fought them were forced to fight them because they were drafted into military service.


 

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I see. So using your logic the soldiers that died on the beaches of Normandy, Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Pork Chop Hill, Midway, Hamburger Hill, and hundreds of other battles weren't heroic sacrifices because the American soldiers that fought them were forced to fight them because they were drafted into military service.
Heh, IBTL!


 

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Heh, IBTL!
What? I edited it and removed the word American. I realized that it was an unintentional slight against the soldiers of other nations that also fought.


 

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I was actually shooting for Ping Girl Blue Boy, which just so happens to have the Nostalgia Chick's quote up top anyway The one I ended up referencing, though, was accidentally more appropriate, in that Colour Coded for Your Convenience actually deals with a lot of the same problems we're seeing here - which colours are evil and how can you tell who is evil and who isn't based on how they look.

I really want to see the Smurfette Principle again, now that you mention it


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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I really want to see the Smurfette Principle again, now that you mention it
So do I.... the Nostalgia Chick was so sexy in it....

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I somehow had to think of this:

Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... A Thugs Mastermind.


I'd also like to quote Kyle Katarn: "No power is inherently good or evil, it's how you use them".


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My original plan for my Praetorian was a DB/WP Brute. It's pretty easy to create a hero who harnesses their rage in the fight against evil. Makes for a rather cool anti-hero concept; practically classic.


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I don't think my nec/dark who summons past 'friends with benefits' would make the transition to kitties so well, but you never know....
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So do I.... the Nostalgia Chick was so sexy in it....
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So have I, but I can't say I share your view on this particular subject.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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Would catgirls puking on people be an attack or some kind of fetish (or both)?
My god, man. Have you never SEEN a cat hork up a hairball?!


 

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I see. So using your logic the soldiers that died on the beaches of Normandy, Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Pork Chop Hill, Midway, Hamburger Hill, and hundreds of other battles weren't heroic sacrifices because the soldiers that fought them were forced to fight them because they were drafted into military service.
Uh, you don't have the faintest clue what he's actually talking about when it comes to handing someone a short-fused explosive, do you.


 

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My god, man. Have you never SEEN a cat hork up a hairball?!
So that's a yes?

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Why would you think that? I can list over a dozen real life gangs that have law abiding members who are familiar with explosives and their various applications.

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Street Forces MC
Leathernecks Motorcycle Club
Freedom Riders MC
Military Veterans MC
Law Dawgs Motorcycle Club
POW-MIA Riders
Knights Paladin MC
Rolling Thunder MC
American Veterans M/C
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USMV MC Homestead Chapter/The Dirty Dozen
U.S. Military Vets MC
Defenders Motorcycle Club


It's not so hard to believe that in the world of Paragon City those same veteran bikers would choose to fight crime.
Did you remember to include the American Legion Riders?

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i'm also of the school that powers are not inherently evil, it's how you use them that makes the difference. An Empath boosting a deranged psychotic into a nigh-unstoppable killing machine and encouraging them to go on a murderous rampage is far more evil than a Poison user that stops a suicide bomber from being able to detonate.

The Devs have of course officially disagreed with that position in the past, so i'm interested in seeing what happens going forward.


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Uh, you don't have the faintest clue what he's actually talking about when it comes to handing someone a short-fused explosive, do you.
Uh, You don't think that commanders have never knowingly sent men to their deaths do you?


 

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Uh, You don't think that commanders have never knowingly sent men to their deaths do you?
It's no fun when it's this depressing.


 

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Did you remember to include the American Legion Riders?
I did a cut and paste and didn't notice that. Thanks for brining it to my attention. I'll fix it.


 

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It's no fun when it's this depressing.
The point I was making was that the fact that someone was put into a situation they didn't volunteer for doesn't detract from any acts of heroism they might perform.


 

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The point I was making was that the fact that someone was put into a situation they didn't volunteer for doesn't detract from any acts of heroism they might perform.
Problem is there's a huge difference in being deployed in an active combat situation when you've signed up the military, and being forced to handle high explosives that explode within three seconds of them being fused to your hand.

But, I dunno. All those dead and traumatised soldiers are worthy of being compared to super hero video game characters, I guess.


 

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Most of the men I referenced in the battles did not volunteer for military service. They were drafted. Refusing the draft was a federal crime. Those men had no choice. I take that back their choices were . . .

1. Volunteer and pick which branch of the service you served in.
2. Wait for the draft and get stuck where they needed bodies
3. Refuse and get arrested/become a wanted fugitive.


 

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Thug: "Uh, boss. Won't this, you know, blow me up?!"

Heroic Mastermind: "Don't worry! You've been wired into the hospital teleport network. Even if things go wrong, you'll be fine. As long as the emergency TP receiving team doesn't lose any of the parts like last time, the idiots."

Thug: "What was that last part again?"

Heroic Mastermind: "Um, nothing! Just wishing you good luck!"
What if it was the other way around?

Mastermind: Man, we've gotta do something! We're getting mashed here!

Thug: Boss, I got an idea! Hand me onna those bombs!

Mastermind: What?! What're you- wait!

*BOOM!*


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What if it was the other way around?

Mastermind: Man, we've gotta do something! We're getting mashed here!

Thug: Boss, I got an idea! Hand me onna those bombs!

Mastermind: What?! What're you- wait!

*BOOM!*
Exactly. Only sometimes in the military it's like this . . .

Mastermind: Men, we've got to take out that pillbox. You three stay here and lay down some covering fire. You two go over there and try to get them in a crossfire. And you take this satchel charge and blow the pillbox while we try to keep their heads down.


 

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Exactly. Only sometimes in the military it's like this . . .

Mastermind: Men, we've got to take out that pillbox. You three stay here and lay down some covering fire. You two go over there and try to get them in a crossfire. And you take this satchel charge and blow the pillbox while we try to keep their heads down.

Here strap this bomb onto your chest and head into that crowd.


 

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Here strap this bomb onto your chest and head into that crowd.
That's the difference between a hero and a terrorist. Heroes try not to hurt noncombatants. Terrorists try to hurt as many noncombatants as possible.


 

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Most of the men I referenced in the battles did not volunteer for military service. They were drafted. Refusing the draft was a federal crime. Those men had no choice. I take that back their choices were . . .

1. Volunteer and pick which branch of the service you served in.
2. Wait for the draft and get stuck where they needed bodies
3. Refuse and get arrested/become a wanted fugitive.
For all your herfing and derfing, I do realise you're trivialising them in an utterly moronic way by equating their struggle with that of a fictional computer game character. The original point was that blowing up an ally, within a comic book, without giving them a choice is hardly a heroic action.

But, Iunno. In before the parallels to Churchill or something. Maybe we can throw in a post on how the lack of influence at lower levels is on par with Haiti survivors. Something classy, like.