Increase PVP IO Drop rate

lolol...I bet this person doesn't even farm at all which is usually the case with such statements.

Sigh. Just because you don't know how it is done doesn't mean that it cannot be done. As I had pointed out before, the manner in which the xp/inf gain is done via an exploit, a loophole, discussion of which is seriously frowned upon. All I have to say is Freedom is currently using a variation on said exploit in public so all you have to do is go there and figure it yourself.

Doing it in 3 hours does take a lot of skill to do and is beyond my modest abilities but I know of people who can and do use it. Just remember in this method every toon that gets to 50 also has the level 50 PLer who is generating influence at twice the xp rate. The newly minted 50 has a need for a full 'sets' of slotted SOs/IOs etc. and the PLer has a boatload of inf as well. Both serve to drive up prices on desirable (top end) gear dramatically. Note that the devs are aware of this exploit so you can also do the math on that one.

As far as the previous exploits go (which is now closed) there were ways to level 1 to 50 in less than an hour. Evidence for this is simple as well, with Posi's snarky post about using AE exploits and then the subsequent ill-advised script used to ban everyone who leveled from 1 to 50 in less than an hour (which also caught people who didn't use exploits to do so, like level pacters).

Edit: AFAIR, there were doubters regarding the ability to level from 1 to 50 in less than an hour back then as well. Claiming it is flat out impossible is tantamount to believing that this game has no serious bugs at all, which in essence is claiming that this game is pretty much exploit free.

If it agrees with you, it's confirming and valid, if it doesn't, it's lies. Just pointing this out. Personally, both sound like small sample sizes I wouldn't trust.

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Ares = PLer Ares = Broke Powerleveling checks itself on the count of it is extremely BORING. Do you even farm at all? As I said, AE got super nerfed and at is very best is just a little better than normal farm maps. i14 came and went. AE got nerfed bad, end of story. Back to PVP IOs

In that case will you please re-revamp PvP so that it's a better team experience and then bring back base raids?

I might actually PvP again and my old Base raiding SG on Freedom might return to the game......

He's telling the truth.

I'm sorry, are you saying that because you think it's wildly boring that people aren't doing it?

That because AE already got nerfed once, it can't be being abused now?

That relatively rampant fast minting of new 50s is having no affect on inflation of currency supply and demand for (and thus price of) PvPOs?

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So whenever you see someone tell you about something you don't know how to do, you assume they're lying? You understand that there are bugs in the game, right? Do you think anyone claiming people can get from 1-50 in a few hours is saying they do it using normal play?

kill slower.

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That's pretty much the reason why you would never get invited to watch it. Someone taking advantage of an exploit can get their wrists seriously slapped, so why would they bother inviting someone who would /bug it?

Assuming someone is lying just because you don't think it's possible doesn't meant they're lying.

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Bahahahahaha. Do you even farm at all?

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No no no. You have it all wrong. I'm a farmer, I think I know a lot better than an anti-farmer what farming is all about. That simple. And I already mentioned that I think 1-50 in 3 hours is BS. And if we are talking about bugs as you say, then we are on a different page. Bugs aren't ae, bugs are bugs. I also dont think the other guy is referring to bugs but farming AE in general. If there is a bug with a large enough base of people to create inflation then it would be something I am aware of ...dolls...mito...etc...We are talking the general population which is running speed runs and x8 farms with about 4 bosses per grp...


The real issue is that lowbie arent paying for farms lol..they become lvl 49 and fight and earn money as opposed to losing it

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I know what he's talking about. We're talking about both a bug and the AE. No one who's responded to you here is anti-farming, or anti-AE, or anti-farming in the AE. You're making this way more complicated than you need to,

Mkay.

Yer farming rong then. In every case I also stated the word exploit, or perhaps for your reading comprehension, XPLOTSLULS.

You really have no clue what the top percentile players are doing, do you? You honestly think your average AE baby is able to afford 2-4 billion for PvP IO procs?

I will comment no further on AE. Prefer to stay on topic.

But then it's snotty posts like this that make me want to flip my lid but in the interest of a good thread with great discussion...

*walks away*

The same reason someone would mention it on the forum and expect someone not to challenge them on it..........foolishness.

I offered a perfectly acceptable method of providing proof of existence, and until it is provided my challenge of the statement stands.


One cannot prove that something doesn't exist. One can prove that it does. All I can do is challenge their statement, and that has been done. I'm not making it personal. All anyone has to do is show me themselves actually PL'ing from 1-50 in 3 hours and I take back my challenge.

If you are keen eyed enough you will see the difference on test server now that open beta has arrived. Changes due to exploits are never commented on in the patch notes so you have to go find the changes yourself. Until then, challenge away...

Putting a screenshot of me or someone admitting to using exploits in the forums would be even more foolish than writing about it.

So you're asking someone to show you the exploit they're using to get a 50 in 3 hours. Good luck with that, rofl.

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lol, if someone showed me something like that id have 20 new 50s by morning

We going to have another one of those threads wer you challenge everyone to prove something, then when it gets put on you you just drop it and say you would rather forget it and get back to the discussion? Cause that **** was awesome. Do yourself a favor brofrog, just back away before you look really bad, again.




Also if you are mentally challenged enough that you can't go figure out how to basically pull this off no proof we could give you would help.

Seeing as a single PvP IO farm drop (worth 20M - 4B) can be had in 24 hours whilst AFK and a 3 hour 50 PL requires real playing, I could see the exchange rate being fair.

The interesting part about the markets, PvP IOs and 3 hour 50s is that most of the people engaged in powergaming are the ones optimizing all three. I'd imagine I earn around a billion inf a week on average without seriously doing alot of optimization, but I'd imagine someone who worked all three of segments (and purple farming) is probably earning an order of magnitude more than I am.

I'd guess the top tier of inf gamers is probably earning 10-40B a week. That is why there are no PvP IOs on the market, they trade well beyond the inf cap now, and there are enough people who can afford them as a significant but casual purchase.

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As far as increasing the drop rate, it ain't gonna happen without really screwing up the rest of the game, since PvP IOs are quite (too) powerful in the PvE game.

Increasing the drop rate will make everything else less desirable as everyone will expect PvP IOs on all their toons (power inflation). More people will be able to gain influence faster, leading to a vicious inflation spiral.

If the devs want to make the PvP IOs bind on pickup, just imagine the value of all the PvP IOs on the market before such code gets implemented.

I think the only thing the devs can do is try and plug the fastest inf gain holes and ride out the inf flood. About the only saving grace is that the inf is concentrated in so few hands that once those people are satiated perhaps the price of all that stuff will fall below the cap and show up on the market again.

PS. Raising the cap would be nice but I bet it is a huge effort tech wise.